2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPolitifact on Sanders Electability Argument: The statement is not accurate, so we rate it False.
Sanders said, "Almost all of the polls that have come out suggest that I am a much stronger candidate against the Republicans than is Hillary Clinton."
The NBC News/Wall Street Journal national poll released before Sanders' statement supports his claim for Trump, but it has no data against Cruz or Rubio. Earlier polls say he doesn't outperform Clinton at all against Cruz, Rubio or Bush, and the narrow races combined with the margins of error make his contention even more dubious.
Beating Clinton in only two of eight hypothetical matchups is far from "almost all."
The statement is not accurate, so we rate it False.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/26/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-says-he-polls-better-against-gop-ca/
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)ljm2002
(10,751 posts)Really?
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Or is Sanders running for the nomination from some other party?
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)again.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)quickesst
(6,280 posts)... attacking Bernie with..... facts.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)but her donors will not tolerate a Real Progressive, and we all know it.
quickesst
(6,280 posts)... Your idea of a real progressive is different from mine. Thanks for replying.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Referring mostly to the 6 figure speaking fee ones (Ha, ha, ha...I'll never forget that) who got rich by shoveling money out with no expectation of specific and clearly spelled out return. Hedge fund managers do it all the time...LOL...Not.
This is NOT my version of Progressive. That's all.
quickesst
(6,280 posts)... I like a progressive who gets things done. but even more, I like a progressive who will get things done. Hill yeah!
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)deeply in the Oligarch's Magic Money Pocket?
draa
(975 posts)John Poet
(2,510 posts)to invade Iraq?
quickesst
(6,280 posts)... Without her vote it would have never happened. I've kind of gotten used to "thanks Obama". I suppose I can get used to "thanks Hillary" just as easily. It will just be a little more despicable coming from the left.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Almost all of the polls that have come out suggest that I am a much stronger candidate against the Republicans than is Hillary Clinton.
Under these circumstances, he is correct. It doesn't say against Hillary...it says against Republicans and that is true in case after case. The Establishment Democrats bound and determined to promote the Oligarchy don't want him...that's the issue.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Is this a material campaign promise he's running for President on?
Is this equivalent of one of Hillary's tales, like Bosnia, or one of her many "evolutions" on policy?
And he has done better better against the front runners in some polls.
Talk about nit picking!
fredamae
(4,458 posts)VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)"She's supported marriage equality for the past forty years" when there's a video of her in opposition to from 2004? I mean she did say that yesterday, right? Let's see a little parity here, y'all.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)them to "cut it out", too.
But can we see just one of the speeches she gave that was worth 6 figures from the hedge fund managers and banking oligarchs? Ha, ha, ha...next? (she really did laugh at the question...I watched it on a clip). Yes, that's our little corporatist.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)leftupnorth
(886 posts)If not virtuous.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"Almost all of the polls that have come out suggest that I am a much stronger candidate against the Republicans than is Hillary Clinton" Bernie Sanders
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Good on Politifact.
They should be calling this out.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)They are part of the corporate establishment,
and I for one think that Bernie knew very well
that he had to fight them as well as the political
establishment.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Colour me surprised for their attacks on true statements from the left.
-none
(1,884 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)It's settled! It's theoretically possible for Sanders to win. I'm certain many people are relieved to hear this.