2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumO'Malley supporter here, disappointed in Sander's rejection of the new debate offered
...just so Sanders supporters don't think they can dodge the challenge by just ragging on Clinton and Clinton supporters.
Here's this O'Malley supporter calling on Sanders to put his support behind moving beyond the DNC's debate straightjacket. It makes no sense for him to remain shackled to a debate protocol set up by an organization he's been protesting to the point of a lawsuit.
Makes no sense, unless there's a political calculation being made...
Sanders Camp Suspicious of Microsoft's Influence in Caucus
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/sanders-campaign-suspicious-corporate-influence-iowa-caucus
So, here's the latest excuse. Bernie can't agree to debates outside of the DNC because, establishment?
Okay, so, he's not really blaming Microsoft for his refusal, but here's the thing, all of the DNC debates are sponsored by some facet of the establishment, not just the MSNBC one. There's no way Sanders is going to stifle the influence of corps in the media by dodging the debate offered, so, it's a weak excuse to act as if his refusal is some part of a campaign against the establishment; especially when he's refusing to stand up to his own party's compromised control over the process.
He needs to stop the political maneuvering and act like the revolutionary candidate advertised. Buck the DNC. Lead, instead of just kowtowing to the 'establishment' organization he's already labeled as biased and compromised.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...because he made an agreement with the DNC that he wouldn't agree to unsanctioned debates. This is not hard.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I've been sitting here laughing most of the evening.
It's like all the Clintonians have become dyslexic overnight, I've even seen a couple that are verging on glossolalia.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...in a thread I made earlier I saw someone call Sanders a cowardly, hypocritical, flip flopper for...wait for it...following the rules. I suppose when you support a candidate that consistently changes positions, lies, and manipulates you can't blame them for going after the guy who is actually acting correctly in this situation.
questionseverything
(9,651 posts)if the dnc approves it, he will debate
the op should be harping at the dnc not bernie
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)bigtree
(85,989 posts)...not very revolutionary to knuckle under to a process set up by an organization he's all but called corrupted.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Who would want a President who does what he says he will do?
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...Sanders word means something to him. It's quite clear that Hillary's word means nothing based on her prior actions. MoM I can't have an opinion on because I haven't done the research. Since when is sticking to what you say a bad thing?
monmouth4
(9,694 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)since he has nothing to lose .
JI7
(89,247 posts)he is doing ok in polls and may be ahead. debates usually help clinton . wasserman also said she will not support it.
bigtree
(85,989 posts)...politics as usual.
JI7
(89,247 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)He may finally be heard! Bernie vs. Clinton has dominated most of the debates. I am hoping O'Malley will finally get to argue for his candidacy.
He has a fantastic record and classy demeanor that should have been shining in these debates.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Broward
(1,976 posts)Will Hillary and the DNC accept?
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)makes one cautious and very smart.
Bernie is alright by me.