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bigtree

(85,989 posts)
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 09:59 PM Jan 2016

O'Malley supporter here, disappointed in Sander's rejection of the new debate offered

...just so Sanders supporters don't think they can dodge the challenge by just ragging on Clinton and Clinton supporters.

Here's this O'Malley supporter calling on Sanders to put his support behind moving beyond the DNC's debate straightjacket. It makes no sense for him to remain shackled to a debate protocol set up by an organization he's been protesting to the point of a lawsuit.

Makes no sense, unless there's a political calculation being made...

Sanders Camp Suspicious of Microsoft's Influence in Caucus
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/sanders-campaign-suspicious-corporate-influence-iowa-caucus


So, here's the latest excuse. Bernie can't agree to debates outside of the DNC because, establishment?

Okay, so, he's not really blaming Microsoft for his refusal, but here's the thing, all of the DNC debates are sponsored by some facet of the establishment, not just the MSNBC one. There's no way Sanders is going to stifle the influence of corps in the media by dodging the debate offered, so, it's a weak excuse to act as if his refusal is some part of a campaign against the establishment; especially when he's refusing to stand up to his own party's compromised control over the process.

He needs to stop the political maneuvering and act like the revolutionary candidate advertised. Buck the DNC. Lead, instead of just kowtowing to the 'establishment' organization he's already labeled as biased and compromised.
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TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
1. He can't agree to an unsanctioned debate...
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:01 PM
Jan 2016

...because he made an agreement with the DNC that he wouldn't agree to unsanctioned debates. This is not hard.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
5. I'm getting more and more amused by all the disingenous crap being thrown around by various posters
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:04 PM
Jan 2016

I've been sitting here laughing most of the evening.

It's like all the Clintonians have become dyslexic overnight, I've even seen a couple that are verging on glossolalia.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
7. It is funny...
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:07 PM
Jan 2016

...in a thread I made earlier I saw someone call Sanders a cowardly, hypocritical, flip flopper for...wait for it...following the rules. I suppose when you support a candidate that consistently changes positions, lies, and manipulates you can't blame them for going after the guy who is actually acting correctly in this situation.

questionseverything

(9,651 posts)
6. if he did do an unsanctioned debate the dnc might take his info again
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:07 PM
Jan 2016

if the dnc approves it, he will debate

the op should be harping at the dnc not bernie

bigtree

(85,989 posts)
10. it's a good look into a Sanders presidency
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:08 PM
Jan 2016

...not very revolutionary to knuckle under to a process set up by an organization he's all but called corrupted.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
11. Indeed, standing by your word is so old fashioned
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:10 PM
Jan 2016

Who would want a President who does what he says he will do?

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
13. This is where you're off the rails...
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:11 PM
Jan 2016

...Sanders word means something to him. It's quite clear that Hillary's word means nothing based on her prior actions. MoM I can't have an opinion on because I haven't done the research. Since when is sticking to what you say a bad thing?

JI7

(89,247 posts)
3. there is no need for Sanders to debate now
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:02 PM
Jan 2016

he is doing ok in polls and may be ahead. debates usually help clinton . wasserman also said she will not support it.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
9. O'Malley benefits from Sanders absence
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:08 PM
Jan 2016

He may finally be heard! Bernie vs. Clinton has dominated most of the debates. I am hoping O'Malley will finally get to argue for his candidacy.
He has a fantastic record and classy demeanor that should have been shining in these debates.

Broward

(1,976 posts)
17. It looks like Sanders just proposed four more debates, including one in New Hampshire.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:23 PM
Jan 2016

Will Hillary and the DNC accept?

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
18. Playing ball with professional snake oil salesmen and women
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:25 PM
Jan 2016

makes one cautious and very smart.

Bernie is alright by me.

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