Q: What are odds that ALL of the self-identified Bernie supporters are real Bernie supporters

[Skwmom]

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and not people working for other campaigns engaging in political dirty tricks and manipulation?

Answer: Not a snowball's chance in hell.

[SheilaT]

1. Huh?

Are you seriously suggesting that none of the self identified Bernie supporters actually support him?

Are you a complete idiot?

[Bjorn Against]

3. You do realize there is a big difference between "all" and "none" don't you?

[roguevalley]

20. not to a hickory supporter, bjorn

[kenfrequed]

6. Uhm...

The author is saying that there is no chance that all of the people that claim to support Sanders on the interwebs are actually Sanders supporters. They are saying that some number here may actually not have good intentions.

The same could be said of the Hillary camp here.

I usually ID them by asking the perpetrators whether they think know their arguments are actually going to convince someone or attract people to support their candidate of choice.

[SheilaT]

15. It's still an aggressive post that attacks Bernie supporters.

And highly offensive at that.

This is the "false flag" bullshit that we see too much of.

[Tortmaster]

26. Wow. You think Republicans are ...

... going undercover to help Hillary Clinton?

Mind. Blown.

[kenfrequed]

29. Uhm

Sowing division and making democrats hate each other doesn't help any democratic candidate. If they make Bernie or Hillary supporters so angry that they would not vote for the other candidate in a regular election then these trolls will think they have done something. It doesn't matter how absurd it is, we are talking about trolls here.

[Tortmaster]

42. You can stop.

Mind. Already. Blown.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. ...

[ecstatic]

8. ..

[Juicy_Bellows]

4. There might be one or two.

I'd argue the HRC crowd has a few more false liberals, at least here on DU.

[SunSeeker]

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This person is accusing Bernie supporters of actually being trolls who work for another campaign. This is bullshit! Bernie supporters are not trolls.

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[joshcryer]

12. What a terrible alert and horrific jury.

Almost hid that? What the hell.

[SunSeeker]

14. I know. I'm guessing if I hadn't been on that jury it would be a hide. nt

[joshcryer]

16. I know everyone's on edge, but damn.

(And I say this being on the receiving end of a 4-3 hide over defending Planned Parenthood of all things.)

[Skwmom]

23. Not surprised. We wouldn't want people to question anything. We much prefer when people

accept everything at face value - which in the world of politics would be an insane thing to do.

Thanks for not hiding my post.

[Betty Karlson]

9. "all" is a very demanding word. How about "nearly all"? - Pretty good odds. eom

[Warren DeMontague]

10. I think the odds are incredibly likely that the self-identified Slim Shady is the Real Slim Shady

All the other Slim Shadys are just imitating.

[Warren DeMontague]

28. Ive always been a big fan of

...never mind.

[TSIAS]

11. 0 %

Same for HRC supporters. Of course there are people looking to cause dissension. But to claim it's widespread is disingenuous on your part.

[Skwmom]

24. My answer infers that there are some - not that it is widespread. n/t

[joshcryer]

13. I suspect the Sanders PUMAs are about as relevant...

...as the Hillary PUMAs were in 2008. Loud, noisy, and largely irrelevant.

[Fearless]

19. Bwhahahaha! Yeah... sure... you go with that!

What other campaigns exactly??

[applegrove]

21. Lots and lots of GOP trolls on the discussion forums

trying to cause unfixable hate among democratic supporters of both Bernie and Hillary. They've been on the DU for years.

[Skwmom]

43. There are trolls from both sides.

[applegrove]

44. I'm talking about GOP trolls who don't want to face Hillary in the election.

[Skwmom]

45. OMG, Clinton is a GIFT to the GOP. Not only will they demolish Clinton, they will take down a good

portion of the Democratic Party with her.

[John Poet]

22. What are the odds that some Hillary supporters on the internet

and even on this site,
are actually neo-conservative warmongers
or their allies and enablers, the liberal interventionists?


I'd say about 100%.


When it comes to wasting our blood and treasure on unneeded military adventures, one is as good as the other.

[Skwmom]

25. I agree. n/t

[PowerToThePeople]

31. +100000

[VulgarPoet]

33. +10 and keep the pens.

[madokie]

27. Well this old okie is a 100% Bernie supporter

I was a Deaniac at one time in my life
I guess you can call me a Bernista now

Never was I a Perotite though. I think what I've typed here pretty much explains exactly who and what I am.

[hrmjustin]

30. All.

[JackRiddler]

32. You should also consider how many of them are commie infiltrators!

[Skwmom]

40. I'd bet money on dirty political tricks from other candidates on BOTH sides.

[Katashi_itto]

34. You are right. We are actually Zigerian advance troops. The galaxies most proficient scam artists.

We have come to your world to sell you our artificial Candidate, the Saunders model.

Once in office, we Zigerian's can drain your world of your vast treasures that are owned mainly by your small super class that for some reason you like supporting.

But you have found us out. Your way to smart for us. We will need to give up the campaign now.

Evacuate to the Starships!!!

[Katashi_itto]

35. Land the Starships!

[gollygee]

36. Those of us who prefer Bernie but don't hate Hillary get accused of this around here

And I don't really have much of a response, other than that supporting one of the two candidates more doesn't mean you can't stand the other. I haven't been as active at DU lately because I don't like seeing either side attack the other side. Both sides attack each other way too hard, IMO. I look forward to the end of primary season.

I plan to vote for Bernie in the primary, and then see who gets the nomination and enthusiastically support whoever that is. I want a Democrat to win the presidency again. I would rather see it be Bernie. I'm from an area that was really hurt by NAFTA and I'm very opposed to trade agreements and corporations that behave like vultures. My personal experience makes that my priority. But I recognize that other people have different experiences that make them focus on different things, and that they therefore choose their candidates for different reasons.

[merkins]

38. Straight out of the Karl Rove playbook

weak...

[MineralMan]

39. So, how does one tell the difference, I wonder?

Any ideas?

[Vinca]

41. If there are Republicans promoting Bernie, we thank them.

They are obviously as stupid as most Republicans and haven't read polls that indicate Bernie could beat all their candidates. But if they want to spend their money making Bernie look even better . . . go for it.