Smackdown to Sanders-“We’re not running on any platform of raising taxes,” Pelosi said.

[riversedge]

Thanks Nancy




Pelosi throws cold water on Sanders' health plan
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(J. Scott Applewhite / Associated Press)


House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi took aim at a core proposal of Sen. Bernie Sanders' campaign, saying Wednesday that his Medicare-for-all health plan is "not going to happen."

“Does anyone in this room think that we’re going to be discussing single payer?" Pelosi said at a news conference in Baltimore kicking off the House Democrats' annual policy conference.

"I’ve been for single payer for 30 years," Pelosi said. But, she said, "that’s not going to happen.”

Sanders defended his Medicare-for-all proposal during Monday's Democratic presidential forum, saying it would eliminate private health insurance premiums even if it requires higher taxes.

But Pelosi made clear that the taxes needed to pay for Sanders' plan were not something House Democrats were eager to embrace.
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[virtualobserver]

1. when Democrats use right wing framing of issues they lose

[Recursion]

5. FDR, JFK, LBJ, Carter, and Clinton all ran on tax cuts

Only JFK delivered them, incidentally, but still.

[virtualobserver]

18. Pelosi isn't running on tax cuts....she is saying no to raising taxes on the rich....

who pay very low taxes. This is right wing framing.

[CorporatistNation]

32. I've Met Her Before... Pelosi Is A CORPORATIST And Is FOS!

!

[whathehell]

29. That's when taxes on Millionaires + were 91% and 70%

not 48% as they are now.

[Recursion]

30. JFK's was (I think that was an appropriate tax cut, incidentally; one of the few)

Clinton ran on cutting Reagan's tax rates for people making under IIRC $200K in 1992 (which is like $300K now).

We can win (though it's dicey) by running on raising taxes on very rich people. And I mean very rich people, like the top 5% or so.

[whathehell]

33. JFK cut tax rates from 91% to 70℅, but closed loopholes

That's so far from where we are now, it's hardly worth talking about.

[TeddyR]

36. Anyone payng 48% of their income

Is paying more than enough in taxes.

[whathehell]

38. Not if they're yearly income is 10 million and more..

and besides, there are plenty of loopholes for their lawyers and accountants to use to bring that rate down.

[AgingAmerican]

2. She has been assimilated by Stockholm Syndrome

Resistance is futile

[JustAnotherGen]

3. Smart of her

If Sanders is the nominee those of us in red districts trying to grab local seats can't have the onus of Bush I "read my lips" type issue on our hands. In the middle of the President and us "little people" is the HOR. Sanders is going to need lots of little disruptors on the school board and town council so he can bypass the House. Down ticket means more than just Federal Government elections.

[virtualobserver]

19. Republican lite will not win down ticket races

[JustAnotherGen]

55. It's not Republican Lite

In Horse Country NJ.

[virtualobserver]

57. who else would be frightened by Bernies tax the rich plan?

[JustAnotherGen]

58. Bernie HAS a tax the rich plan?

Interesting . . .

[mmonk]

4. Actually I think party operatives are hurting the Clinton campaign

in their aggressive attacks on Sanders. By doing so, they are angering an already angry public.

[DanTex]

6. She wants to avoid the electoral debacle that would ensue if congressional Dems are tied to Bernie.

[Kentonio]

10. If she wants to refuse to support the mandate the party members give the nominee

Then she can retire and leave the job to someone who does respect the voters.

[DanTex]

11. Hmm, so I guess Bernie should have retired after calling for Obama to be primaried.

[Kentonio]

12. Which Democratic party leadership position did Bernie hold at the time?

[DanTex]

15. Oh I see. I didn't understand the rules of allegiance to the great leader. So senators are allowed

to think for themselves, but those in leadership positions can't. Hmm.

[Kentonio]

20. Why would an Independent senator be held to the platform os a Democratic president?

Bernie is now a Democrat though, and if he wins the nomination then the Democratic base are approving his platform. For Pelosi to turn around and say 'we aren't running on that' would be nothing more of less than a slap in the face of every Democratic voter. Not acceptable, she's a representative of the party, not the owner of the party.

[DanTex]

22. I get it, really. You're into party allegiance as long as it's allegiance to your guy.

[Kentonio]

7. Dear Nancy,

You'll run on whatever the future Democratic nominee tells you to or you can leave your party leadership position to someone who actually wants to push the agenda that Democratic voters actually voted for. Thanks muchly.

[DanTex]

14. The great leader will not be questioned!

[Kentonio]

21. As with everything else in this campaign, its not about Bernie its about us.

Us and how we've been ignored by the establishment for decades. If you understand that, then you understand why his campaign is achieving what it is achieving.

[DanTex]

23. That's odd, because whenever I point out how loony Bernie's online support base is,

the response is invariably that it's not about Bernie's fans it's about Bernie himself.

[Kentonio]

25. How 'loony'? Interesting that you insult us yet then complain about how we behave.

If Hillary wins the nomination I'll enjoy watching you tell us 'loonies' that we need to support her.

[DanTex]

28. Obviously you will support her, right? Since you're all about obedience to authority.

[riversedge]

48. +1

[Kentonio]

60. If you stay in the party, you vote for the nominee

If that's not acceptable, then you leave. There's always a choice.

[bowens43]

8. Time for pelosi to go, she is part of the problem.

[slipslidingaway]

9. Pelosi: Public Option Is Off the Table

Our party never fights for a damned thing



http://www.rollcall.com/news/-43656-1.html


"Feb. 28, 2010, 10:16 a.m.


Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) predicted Sunday that she would find the votes to pass a health care overhaul and said Democrats had already made major concessions to Republicans, including ditching the public insurance option.

“A year later, we’re closer to what Republicans were suggesting at that time, an exchange and not a public option,” she said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Pelosi said, “There is no public option on the table now.”

[gyroscope]

13. "Bush Impeachment is off the table" - Nancy Pelosi

What party is she working for? Do you notice a pattern here?

[reformist2]

16. We really do need a clean sweep of this "pragmatic" and "reasonable" old guard.

They've gotten us nowhere. Worse, they've taken us from a majority in Congress to a minority. It's what happens when you don't promise the people anything.

[FreakinDJ]

17. we need a revolution

[Broward]

24. These weak-kneed, Repub-lite Dems need to go.

[cantbeserious]

26. Clearly Demonstrates How Out Of Touch Pelosi Has Become

eom

[merrily]

27. What Democrats have been running on has cost them dearly. Historic losses, worst

since 1928.

You know when Congressional Democrats did extraordinarily well at ballot boxes and voting booths? When they were New Deal Democrats instead of New Democrats. They began struggling in 1994.

[Warren Stupidity]

31. 1980 series Reagan Democrats have been recalled for safety reasons.

Voters: please return these democrats to the manufacturer at your earliest convenience.

[VulgarPoet]

34. ...And this is supposed to be party leadership.

She's so FOS that if we gave her an enema, she'd lose a good four feet of height.

[TeddyR]

37. She's completely right

I'm not a Pelosi fan, but single payer isn't going to pass (we BARELY passed ACA) and running on a platform of raising taxes is political suicide.

[tazkcmo]

40. Bully.

"No We Can't".

[Vinca]

35. Of course not. We must run on the same platform the GOP runs on. Right, Nancy?

Wouldn't want a billionaire to pay another percentage or 2 in taxes so a poor kid can get an education.

[Gothmog]

39. Sanders proposals would kill down ballot candidates

[uponit7771]

42. Sanders doesn't care about down ballot candidates, he's starting to look like a disaster

[QC]

41. Blast from the past!

[leftupnorth]

43. Maybe she could run on enabling more decade long wars in far flung lands.

And absolute cowardice in the face of blood thirsty war mongers.

And keeping the powder dry.

And stabbing the people in the back.

[book_worm]

44. Sorry to say but raising taxes is a losing issue

it always has been and the GOP will slaughter Sanders if he is the nominee on that issue and most democrats running for office will run away from him on that issue.

[Punkingal]

45. Get a clue, Pelosi...raising taxes is not Bernie's platform.

[oasis]

46. The revolution will not be subsidized.

[Sunlei]

47. I agree, don't want our House Democrats' annual policy conference to add any 'platform of raising t

"platform of raising taxes". What they're discussing now is fine with me.

[Armstead]

49. "I’ve been for single payer for 30 years," Pelosi said. But, she said, "that’s not going to happen.”

Democrats in a nutshell

[Fawke Em]

50. Yeah, thanks for making sky-high insurance status quo, Nancy.

I'd rather pay a bit more in taxes and save thousands by not having to fork it over to for-profit insurance companies and still owe co-pays and deductible.

[Kalidurga]

51. Yes we are

The 1% is doomed.

[Yupy]

52. Dear establishment, you meant HEALTH INSURANCE SAVINGS? I fully support Bernie with his HI Savings!

[KingCharlemagne]

53. Pelosi has been a running joke ever since she took impeachment off

the table.

What is her net worth, by the way?

[CrispyQ]

54. So she's taking tax hikes & single payer off the table, huh?

"I’ve been for single payer for 30 years," Pelosi said. But, she said, "that’s not going to happen.”

Well yeah, when you have that attitude, Nancy, it's not gonna happen.

[johnlucas]

56. Nancy Pelosi can join Hillary Clinton to the door

Weak Democrats will no longer be tolerated.
Burn it down, Bernie!
Her speaking out like this means he really IS a threat.
Good.

Getting him in means getting these Democratic clowns in line.
They either update their views or they hit the exit.
We're not going for that half-hearted Obama era again.
Full heart or NOTHING.

John Lucas

[Hell Hath No Fury]

59. And a PERFECT example of why --

I stopped voting for Pelosi. She LOVES the private sector and private sector $$$. She is one of the people who pioneered the whole "public/private partnership" funding craze where citizen-owned assets are leased/sold to private enterprises for development. I am fighting her legacy RIGHT NOW here in San Francisco, where a historic, San Franciscan-owned property is being handed over to a for-profit entity.

Our Palace of Fine Arts -- owned by the people of San Francisco -- is being leased out from under us to a private group which plans on developing it into a boutique hotel!

And WHY?? Because Democrats like Pelosi refuse to raise TAXES to pay for what We the People own as the Commons or deserve as citizens. So screw Pelosi, and screw any Democrat who is too owned or too cowardly to DO WHAT IS RIGHT for the people of this country.

[Matt_R]

61. Link Broken n/t

[amborin]

62. Billionaires thank Nancy; they would bear 99% of any Bernie tax increase; middle class wins w/Bernie