Most Americans think Hillary Clinton is going to be the next president

[DemocratSinceBirth]

The majority of Americans think Hillary Clinton is going to win the presidential election in November, according to a new ABC News/Washington Post poll. Assuming Clinton is going up against Donald Trump in the general election, 54 percent of Americans said they'd expect Clinton to win; the poll also reports that among registered voters — who tend to be more Republican-leaning — some 52 percent expect Clinton to win. Clinton is also seen trouncing Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio by larger margins than she's expected to beat Trump.

Bernie Sanders is also expected to perform well against the GOP, although Americans are less certain he could beat Trump. However, the poll saw Americans expecting Sanders to beat Cruz or Rubio in a general election matchup. On the whole, higher educated Americans expect Clinton and Sanders to beat out their GOP opponents.


http://theweek.com/speedreads/601868/most-americans-think-hillary-clinton-going-next-president

[cali]

1. She's our Michael Dukakis

[hrmjustin]

2. Sanders is our McGovern.

Actually from what I hear both McGovern and Dukakis were decent men.

[Fast Walker 52]

39. they were good men, ahead of their time, and slimed by the establishment

The big question is whether times have changed enough for Americans to vote for another really good person?

[Logical]

63. Does that mean Hillary is their Reagan? Confused. Nt

[SoapBox]

27. Yup.

[Betty Karlson]

48. Dukakis was a solid liberal. Clinton is NOT our Dukakis. eom

[stonecutter357]

3. K&R!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. The results suggest that vote expectation surveys are among the most accurate methods ...

The results suggest that vote expectation surveys are among the most
accurate methods for forecasting U.S. presidential elections available to date.

https://forecasters.org/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/7-2a51b93047891f1ec3608bdbd77ca58d/2013/07/Graefe_vote_expectations_ISF.pdf

[PoliticAverse]

16. What did they think at this time in the election of 2008? n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. I literally have no idea.

I suspect a generic Democrat was favored to win the White House after eight disastrous years of Bush.


And by the time economy completely unraveled in the Fall it was a foregone conclusion the GOP was done.

[CBGLuthier]

4. Most Americans deserve her. I aim higher.

[Alfresco]

6. Abe will graciously relinquish that chair to Hillary. :-)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. I would place her next to President Grant. -:)

[Fawke Em]

11. Why? Because women need to sit?

Your post was a bit sexist.

[Alfresco]

15. ...

[hobbit709]

13. She isn't fit to shine Abe's shoes.

[MissDeeds]

34. You know he's dead, right?

[greiner3]

45. But his granite shoes were a bit dusty last time I visited DC

[riversedge]

7. and these Americans are wise.

[redstateblues]

8. Sanders, like Mondale ran on raising taxes

He won 1 state. His home state minnesota

[navarth]

33. Bernie's running on raising taxes?

Stay honest, pal

[Punkingal]

10. They surveyed EVERY American?

Somehow I missed that one.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. No. They made up the findings, and me being the mendacious fella i am, cited them./nt

[hobbit709]

12. And a lot of them know that the machine has spoken.

A government of, by, and for the 1%.

[NurseJackie]

17. They're correct!

[cascadiance]

19. I'm guessing we had many MSM articles pushing that same notion back in January of 2008 too!

... to go along with what the corporatized media wanted to do for the Clintons then for helping who controlled them consolidate the ownership in to their hands when Clinton signed the Telecomm Act in his term amongst other things.

Yes, just more typical corporatized media propaganda... When the voting starts the real story will start. When people working two to three jobs to survive today finally have some time to study what is going on in the election closer to the times for them to vote in their states, we'll start to get more of an accurate read on how they will vote when they realize who will really be better at fighting to alleviate them from their daily lives struggle to reach beyond the bottom bar of Maslow's pyramid.

[SidDithers]

20. DU rec...nt

Sid

[SwampG8r]

21. Most americans believe in angels too

Theres a dozen things americans believe that arent rooted in reality.

[nichomachus]

23. Darn you

Beat me to it

[book_worm]

22. To be fair if this question were asked in 2008 at this time I think a plurality

would also have predicted that Hillary would be our next president.

[Goblinmonger]

24. 42% of Americans believe in young earth creationism

Doesn't make it true or them smart.

An additional 38% believe God guided evolution.

Lots of idiots in the US.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/170822/believe-creationist-view-human-origins.aspx

[SunSeeker]

25. I think so too.

[randome]

26. Voters. What the hell do they know?

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[Indepatriot]

28. "Uptown Funk" was the best selling song of 2015...

[Fuddnik]

29. Most Americans thought New England was going to beat Denver last Sunday.

[Perogie]

30. And a Majority of Americans......

Think more guns is a better idea.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-23/majority-americans-believe-us-would-be-safer-if-more-people-carried-guns

[Robbins]

31. This means exactly nothing

expections are bullcrap.she can't be anything if people don't want to vote for her.we have had polls where people say they expect her to win but are voting for bernie anyway.

nice try when you don't have much

[safeinOhio]

32. Dewey Wins, Dewey Wins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dewey_Defeats_Truman

[DemocratSinceBirth]

38. I never suggested the polls are dispositive and this one is close.

BTW, that headline was more the function of poor reporting than what the polling actually suggested, ergo:






Respectfully,


DemocratSinceBirth

[bvf]

35. LOL! In other news:

More Americans can identify the Three Stooges than the three branches of government.

[angrychair]

43. My favorite

Was the guy that went around college campus in CA, collecting petition signatures to "end women's suffrage now".

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/3565164

Americans, as a group, have a poor civics record so I'll take surveys like this with a grain of salt.

[angrychair]

36. Forming a opinion

Or worse a conclusion, around "what most Americans think" is filled with peril.
With far to many Americans believing in a god, angels, ghost and leprechauns, it is a lot of things but it is not magically delicious.

[Ron Green]

37. 2016 is a test for America, maybe the biggest one.

And we may very well fail it; we seem to be more and more governed by fear even as ideas and technology emerge that might help us turn away from this "Empire of Death" path and toward a renewable earth community.

Bernie's election would be only a first step, and for our severely compromised body politic to sustain the ensuing effort is a dream worth having, but still a dream.

[Bernin4U]

40. If only the natl elections were Monday.

But they're not, are they? Bummer.

(And can someone find Pres. Obama a shirt that fits?)

[JonLeibowitz]

41. And I think climate change is likely going to destroy this earth

Of course, I plan to fight climate change and work to set up a green economy.

See the similarities?

[johnlucas]

42. Most people once thought Planet Earth was flat too

Most people thought the Iraq War was a good idea too.
Most people thought trickle-down economics was a good idea too.
Most people thought Prohibition was a good idea too.

Sometimes just sometimes "most people" are WRONG.

I once said on this very forum that Hillary Clinton IS the 45th President of the United States.
THANK GOD, Bernie Sanders changed that destiny.
Bernie Sanders IS the 45th President of the United States.

Most people who believe that Hillary Clinton will be the next President are simply...WRONG.
John Lucas

[retrowire]

44. Here you go.

"according to a new ABC News/Washington Post poll."

There, now your OP headline isn't an outright fabrication.

[floriduck]

46. Your handle, DSB, describes me too.

But after seeing what some Dems have become, makes me feel the need to take another shower.

My dad once told me the difference between a GOPer and a Dem was that Dems wanted change for improvement to people's lives. The GOP wanted things to stay as they are or go back. I've continued to follow my dad's tradition.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

47. Meanwhile in the House, the Republicans are lining up to see who gets to play the Impeachment Game.

[fbc]

49. It's not surprising that Americans should be so pessimistic.

The majority of Americans have been getting shit on for decades. Why should they expect that to change now?

[frylock]

50. Maybe they can think her into office, because she isn't getting voted in.

[Nanjeanne]

51. Most Republicans

Think Obama is a Muslim

Half of Congress thinks climate change is a hoax

55% people believe Christianity was written into the Constitution

Majority of people can't find Iraq on a map

So - who gives a flying fig that the majority of people have been slogged over the head by mainstream media to believe Hillary is the annointed one? This is news?

[Agnosticsherbet]

52. Reminds me of the old Disney Audioanimitronic "Great Moment with Mr. Lincoln."

It will be gratifying to see a woman up there with all those men.

[bowens43]

53. they're wrong. if she gets the nomination trump will be our next president

[DaveT]

54. This is the stupidest poll ever

It does not ask who you will vote for.

It asks who you think other people will vote for.

Of course people think she is going to win. You have been hearing that she is inevitable for years, and Sanders' polling until recently lent considerable support to that main stream media narrative. I know several people who are voting for Sanders while believing that Hillary is going to win.


Polling is of course always of limited value -- with some polls more useful than others. This is one has a value of zero.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

61. Res ipsa loquitur

This is the stupidest poll ever

The peer reviewed research suggests asking people who they think will win is the most efficacious method of actually predicting who will win, ergo:

The general election observer is probably most interested in who will win. When it comes
to U.S. presidential elections, vote expectation surveys are likely to provide the best answer to
this question. In addition, the results of such surveys can be translated into highly accurate vote
share forecasts.


https://forecasters.org/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/7-2a51b93047891f1ec3608bdbd77ca58d/2013/07/Graefe_vote_expectations_ISF.pdf

Consequently I will defer to the peer reviewed research and the not the value laden observation of a random internet poster.

Respectfully,

DemocratSinceBirth

[DaveT]

62. The thing speaks for itself

Correlation versus causation.

How about correlating Oprah's weight with the stock market?

If the peers say so it is true. Them peers must be hell in Vegas.

And yeah a stupid polling exercise speaks for itself every time.

[Alfresco]

55. Most Americans are realists.

[LS_Editor]

56. Woe to the republic.

[Alfresco]

57. Kick :-)

[ypsfonos]

58. That is a temporary condition...

[Skwmom]

59. What else would you expect - that's what they are told by the propaganda machine....

[Rosa Luxemburg]

60. They thought that in 2008