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Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:16 PM Jan 2016

If Bernie Sanders and his supporters are as racist/racially insensitive as many suggest

do the other candidates want them shifting to their own camps once the primaries are concluded?

Can you imagine any good Democratic candidate saying, "It'll be a tight race. I think we should court the David Duke voters"?

Because that's pretty much how Sen. Sanders and his supporters are being portrayed these days; but I have a sneaking suspicion that should another candidate carry the primaries into the nomination those very same Sanders supporters, once vilified as racist and unrealistic, will suddenly become a cherished commodity.

So, are the allegations of racism overblown, cynical rhetoric or are those making the accusations willing to accept common cause of those they deem to be racists?

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If Bernie Sanders and his supporters are as racist/racially insensitive as many suggest (Original Post) Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 OP
Sanders supporters are racists? If anyone believes that to be true, I imagine they'll Jefferson23 Jan 2016 #1
Don't necessarily want all of his supporters... spyker29 Jan 2016 #2
There won't be any "courting" going on. NanceGreggs Jan 2016 #3
Would you take common cause with anyone who called you a racist? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #4
It depends on what motivates how you vote. NanceGreggs Jan 2016 #6
So, basically, its a free pass on slander. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #7
You can see it as a "free pass" on whatever you like. NanceGreggs Jan 2016 #8
I agree with you on this, Nance. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #10
"I'll be supporting the nominee, because I'm not a fucking idiot. NanceGreggs Jan 2016 #11
Here's the real problem RobertEarl Jan 2016 #14
Are there any lies in the name of political expedience you would consider off-limits? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #12
Same here. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #5
Nailed it! hrmjustin Jan 2016 #9
+1000.nt ecstatic Jan 2016 #13

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
1. Sanders supporters are racists? If anyone believes that to be true, I imagine they'll
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:22 PM
Jan 2016

try and do without those voters regardless of the outcome..otherwise what would
you call their change of heart?

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
3. There won't be any "courting" going on.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:28 PM
Jan 2016

If HRC gets the nomination, those who want to see her win - or don't want to see a Republican in the WH - will vote for her.

If BS gets the nomination, those who want to see him win - or don't want to see a Republican in the WH - will vote for him.

As a Hillary supporter, if she is the nominee, I have no intentions of begging Bernie supporters to vote for her. Just as if Bernie gets the nomination, I wouldn't expect his supporters to come begging for my vote.

I'm voting for the Democrat. Anyone who thinks they should be wooed into voting for the (D) isn't worth the effort.



NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
6. It depends on what motivates how you vote.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:47 PM
Jan 2016

If you base your vote on what people call you on a website, I guess you'll act accordingly.

As a Hillary supporter, I've been called a corporatist, a lover of the status quo, a water-carrier for the 1%, a supporter of a criminal, a DINO, a Republican-lite, a Third Wayer - need I go on?

Does any of that affect how I will vote in November? In a pig's eye.

I will be voting for the Democrat in the general election - and what I've been called or labelled as has sweet fuck all to do with it.

Are there racists, sexists, ageists in BS's camp? Absolutely. Are there racists, sexists, ageists in HRC's camp? Absolutely. That's just the law of averages when you're talking about millions of voters; you're going to get ALL kinds of people in the mix.

The only "common cause" we face is electing a Democrat to the WH, and ensuring the next president ISN'T a Trump or a Cruz. In that regard, I don't really care WHO votes (D) over (R) - I only care THAT THEY DO SO.

BTW, I've never called any BS supporter a racist, sexist, or ageist

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
8. You can see it as a "free pass" on whatever you like.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:56 PM
Jan 2016

I don't base my vote on who "slandered" who, who called who names, etc.

If you choose to vote on that basis, that is certainly your prerogative.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
10. I agree with you on this, Nance.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:03 PM
Jan 2016

There has been altogether way too much of that bullshit, non-stop.

Anyone who bases a decision as important as this on crap like what some idiot said on twitter or what kind of shirts someone saw someone else wearing... they don't strike me as the brightest bulbs in the chandelier to begin with.

I'll be supporting the nominee, because I'm not a fucking idiot. That goes for whoever wins the primary.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
11. "I'll be supporting the nominee, because I'm not a fucking idiot.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:36 PM
Jan 2016
That goes for whoever wins the primary."

Well said - and same here.

IMHO, anyone who bases their vote in the GE on "people said mean things to me on the internet" IS a fucking idiot.

The fact is their vote won't be missed in any event - because they're probably too God-damned stupid to know how to cast a ballot anyway.

I'm in it to win it. I want to see HRC as the nominee, and the next POTUS. But if my fellow Democrats choose Bernie over her as the nominee, I'll be in it to win it with him at the helm.
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
14. Here's the real problem
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 12:37 AM
Jan 2016

As one DUer said:

"The people with all the power, with the influence and money who support the democratic party right now will leave before they would support a candidate like Sanders"... end quote

They abandoned Gore, Kerry and Carter. They will abandon Bernie. So this talk about individuals voting their conscience is just trash talk. It is the big money establishment that is killing our democracy.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
12. Are there any lies in the name of political expedience you would consider off-limits?
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 12:22 AM
Jan 2016

Or do you feel entitled to abuse erstwhile allies without limit while demanding unquestioned loyalty?

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