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Eugene

(61,807 posts)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:34 PM Jan 2016

Wintry-looking Iowa caucus intensifies turnout fears for Trump and Sanders

Source: The Guardian

Wintry-looking Iowa caucus intensifies turnout fears for Trump and Sanders

Snowstorm that could dump as much as 6 inches Monday may stall momentum
of insurgent campaigns as candidates make final push across Hawkeye State


Dan Roberts in Burlington, Iowa
Friday 29 January 2016 16.58 GMT

In the end, the direction of American politics may all come down to a snowstorm.

Months of fierce campaigning have left both party leadership races too close to call in Iowa as the rural state prepares to become the first, and most influential, to pick candidates for November’s presidential election.

Opinion polls suggest a narrow lead for Donald Trump among Republicans and a near dead-heat between rival Democrats Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders ahead of the caucuses on Monday evening.

Yet Trump and Sanders are dependent on support from younger voters and anti-establishment types who tend to turn up less reliably than the party faithful backing Clinton and the more traditional Republicans.

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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/29/iowa-caucus-turnout-snow-storm-republicans-democrats-sanders-trump


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Wintry-looking Iowa caucus intensifies turnout fears for Trump and Sanders (Original Post) Eugene Jan 2016 OP
Seems like older people... thomservo Jan 2016 #1
That's exactly my thought too MissDeeds Jan 2016 #5
LOL! That's the exact opposite of reality. onehandle Jan 2016 #10
True. The difference this cycle is... BOSNYCDC Jan 2016 #11
Older people are more likely to vote period than younger people book_worm Jan 2016 #19
That was my thought too. College students don't care much about cold. DanTex Jan 2016 #24
The forecast I saw was sunny breaks, above freezing and a little Jarqui Jan 2016 #2
As of now (1:00 pm, Fri) the Weather Channel has the snow and wind starting Monday evening Persondem Jan 2016 #9
Is it the gusty winds (must be hurricane force) aspirant Jan 2016 #13
Lets stress the part of the sentence that says "in Iowa" artislife Jan 2016 #18
Storm prep mode? DaGimpster Jan 2016 #22
let me guess... aspirant Jan 2016 #3
Growing up in Minnesota, we always made cracks about Iowa drivers in the snow.... tokenlib Jan 2016 #7
6" in IA in February? demwing Jan 2016 #4
'HAARP' ?? ViseGrip Jan 2016 #6
Rut-roh. nt onehandle Jan 2016 #8
Passionate young people are energized and unstoppable... Lodestar Jan 2016 #12
All those thousands beltanefauve Jan 2016 #30
Young people and older people have stood in the cold for Sanders' Rallies Nanjeanne Jan 2016 #14
The article says the snow is due Tuesday demwing Jan 2016 #15
yes, everyone knows old people love to come out in bad weather restorefreedom Jan 2016 #16
Help me understand how inclement weather floriduck Jan 2016 #17
Part of Sanders' ground strategy in Iowa has been to encourage college students to caucus Tanuki Jan 2016 #21
The UK Guardian is probably not the best source for an Iowa weather forecast oberliner Jan 2016 #20
Evening forecast is 50% chance of snow, highs in upper 20's. Caucus @ 7Pm emulatorloo Jan 2016 #23
Exactly oberliner Jan 2016 #26
We do have weather forecasts as you implied DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #25
What is the significance of that Ali meeting the Clintons picture? oberliner Jan 2016 #27
Two people I admire...Here is a great Ali-Clinton anecdote DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #28
It's Iowa... Bjornsdotter Jan 2016 #29
 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
5. That's exactly my thought too
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:49 PM
Jan 2016

Could be good for Bernie since he has a lot of support from younger voters.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
10. LOL! That's the exact opposite of reality.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:04 PM
Jan 2016

Not only are older people more likely to vote, but they are much more likely to vote during adverse conditions.

Learned that on day one of my first GOTV experience, years ago.

 

BOSNYCDC

(66 posts)
11. True. The difference this cycle is...
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:06 PM
Jan 2016

That younger voters are very, very excited in a way they haven't often been before.

Given how this election season has been an exception to almost every rule I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out a bit differently.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
19. Older people are more likely to vote period than younger people
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:37 PM
Jan 2016

that is why there is always such an issue as to whether young people will vote or not.

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
9. As of now (1:00 pm, Fri) the Weather Channel has the snow and wind starting Monday evening
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:02 PM
Jan 2016

with 1-3 inches of snow expected and gusty winds. Doesn't seem too bad but could be enough to dampen turnout and keep some first timers at home or in storm prep mode. That could indeed hurt Sanders and Trump.

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
13. Is it the gusty winds (must be hurricane force)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:08 PM
Jan 2016

or 1-3 inches of snow which barely reach the tops of your shoes that will cause mass hibernation in Iowa?

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
18. Lets stress the part of the sentence that says "in Iowa"
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:27 PM
Jan 2016

I lived in NoDak and Minnesota. What the rest of the country is calling "storm", the midwest calls "winter"

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
7. Growing up in Minnesota, we always made cracks about Iowa drivers in the snow....
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:52 PM
Jan 2016

..but I'm sure they can deal with it. And I'm sure the grassroots organizers will have getting people to the caucuses on their priority list...

Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
12. Passionate young people are energized and unstoppable...
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:08 PM
Jan 2016

I have no idea what they are talking about here. Wishful thinking? Of COURSE
Sander's young supporters will turn out.

As for Trump's supporters?.... can't say.

beltanefauve

(1,784 posts)
30. All those thousands
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:12 PM
Jan 2016

of people showing up at Sanders rallies but they won't follow through with voting?

I seriously doubt it. Agreed, wishful thinking from the powers that be.

Nanjeanne

(4,915 posts)
14. Young people and older people have stood in the cold for Sanders' Rallies
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:10 PM
Jan 2016

and I have a feeling that enthusiastic passionate people will brave the weather to vote for a candidate they feel inspired by.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
15. The article says the snow is due Tuesday
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jan 2016
"a major storm due to sweep in from the west and dump 6in of snow on the state by Tuesday"


Why did you change it to Monday?
 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
17. Help me understand how inclement weather
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:25 PM
Jan 2016

would impact younger, progressive voters more adversely than older voters and women? How do people come to such amazingly bizarre conclusions?

And as for poll results, how do polls relate to newer and first time voters. These mostly Bernie supporters have never been included in polls of registered, likely voters. Even Hillary backing pundits admit the young votes is a complete wild card and unpredictable.

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
21. Part of Sanders' ground strategy in Iowa has been to encourage college students to caucus
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:40 PM
Jan 2016

in their home counties instead of where their campus is located, to spread the delegates around instead of concentrating them in a few locations. Nothing wrong with that, but I can see how extreme weather might make traveling long distances less feasible. That said, I hope that the weather remains fair and that everyone gets to their caucus destination safely to support the candidate of their choice.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
20. The UK Guardian is probably not the best source for an Iowa weather forecast
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:38 PM
Jan 2016

Caucus day is supposed to be clear and unseasonably warm across the state.

emulatorloo

(44,058 posts)
23. Evening forecast is 50% chance of snow, highs in upper 20's. Caucus @ 7Pm
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:47 PM
Jan 2016

I'm sure the UK has access to US weather forecasts.

That being said I don't think Iowans will have an issue with a little snow and temps in the 20s

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
26. Exactly
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:55 PM
Jan 2016

There are no weather-related turnout fears as the UK Guardian newspaper is suggesting.

Maybe they don't realize that high 20s and a possible flurry is good weather for Iowa for this time of year?

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