2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWe've reached the point of high farce
It's been clear for some time that the Clinton Campaign and allies decided to attack Sanders on his strengths; one of the most well known, his integrity has been a chief target.
We may have reached the nadir with the thoroughly ridiculous piece in today's NYT, which repeats breathlessly that Bernie had the audacity to quote praise for him that was included in an endorsement of Hillary. Was he supposed to footnote that? It is patently.absurd, to suggest as the NYT did that any Iowa Caucus goer will believe that he was trying to pass that off as an endorsement. It's bullshit hypercriticism and it's what the MSM is trying to spoonfeed the public.
Yesterday, the darling Grey Grande Dame, ran a misleading story about Bernie and outside money. In true Clintonian parsing, that story depended on the meaning of the word 'outsiide'.
The next 4 days we'll see a gleeful pile on. Will the last 10 days to two weeks of howl awful Bernie is, how stupid and unrealistic he is, work? Maybe, but this won't help democrats in November.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)The Clinton machine is a dirty tricks machine
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)And Millennials don't vote, so anyone they vote for shouldn't be nominated.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Or is he Jewish?
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Iggo
(47,547 posts)Wink. Wink.
Iggo
(47,547 posts)Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)"Will the last 10 days to two weeks of how awful Bernie is, how stupid and unrealistic he is, work? Maybe, but this won't help democrats in November."
So very true.
djean111
(14,255 posts)risk a little grass roots for Bernie talk - and she is EXTREMELY enthusiastic, and already plans on voting for Bernie in the primary. Here in Florida. She is so put off by the tactics of the Hillary campaign that she actually said that maybe we should all go independent, if Hillary gets the nomination. Because she feels the Democratic Party has left her. I think she is in her 50's.
Duval
(4,280 posts)"It's the DLC'ers, stupid" and their push to the right. And your insurance agent is not the only one who feels that way about going Independent. It's sad for me to see.
draa
(975 posts)I've had enough so I'm leaving. What will I do come November? Who knows but it's not the Democrats problem anymore. Or, maybe it is.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)I never know who will screw us worse ,the FDP or the RPF
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)Rank and file in their lead story online.
Nanjeanne
(4,937 posts)This morning my husband and I were talking about all this stuff being thrown out yesterday and continuing today and it's just so apparent that the Clinton campaign needs to chip away at Sanders' biggest strength. His integrity. But most voters have had more than 20 years to understand how the Clinton's operate and have formed their opinions on Hillary's lack of it. On the flip side voters have also been able to learn who Bernie Sanders is and what he has consistently stood for. And integrity is way at the top. It's a losing battle for the Clinton campaign - when they have to resort to silliness like Buttongate and Logogate and now Quotegate . . .
you are right - it's reached the level of a Feydeau farce!
daleanime
(17,796 posts)as long as the current system is left intact. That way the funneling of money will to go into the bank accounts of the already wealthy.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Including this part: " "
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)They're going to throw every last turd they have at him.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Does Trump have a pimple on his ass?
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)With no football on this week, I may have to actually watch and see.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)OH MY GOD! Sanders' campaign tried to convince some union workers to vote for Sanders!
OH MY GOD! Sanders' has a few rude online supporters!
OH MY GOD! Sanders' campaign tried to make a better photo op Sanders!
OH MY GOD! Sanders' campaign wants to give ponies to everyone without promising magic hats to others!
OH MY GOD! Sanders' campaign tried to investigate an insecure voter contact list!
What "crime" will Sanders commit next? Will he eat with his fork in his left hand? Will one of his supporters put a piece of compost in the trash? Stay tuned!
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)um... Have you even seen what the average Bernie supporter's TL looks like on Twitter? That ain't exactly helping in November, either.
cali
(114,904 posts)Bernie subreddit
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)Thanks for the thread, cali.
Liberal Jesus Freak
(1,451 posts)Thank you for being knowledgeable and fair
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)You got this right. They are howling like wolves at a full moon.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)If they succeed in taking this election, the backlash is going to be monumental.
H2O Man
(73,528 posts)By and large, the media's reporting on both the Democratic and republican presidential primaries is terrible.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)We are down to the wire. Iowans are busying themselves with doing their due diligence. They're attending rallies and making their final decisions. They want to make good decisions. They don't want to hear bullshit. Caucus goers are the most politically active and engaged members of the Iowa Democratic party. About 30 percent of Iowa Democrats will caucus, and they take the time to participate in the process because they are active and involved.
These people know bullshit. And they know that last-minute attacks are acts of desperation.
So...this nonsense may be flying around, but don't worry about it affecting Iowa.
If anything, it's a turnoff. If any candidate goes too far with baseless, flailing attacks--it will backfire.
I canvassed today and yesterday. We were all trained to be very positive and to say nothing negative (not that we ever would)--because of these well-known dynamics.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)...own look of ties or quid pro quos.
Sanders can't throw stones on these issues, bout time she started to speak up on them
cali
(114,904 posts)Keep making stuff up.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)has been anything but for years.