That's it, Hillary is toast.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

Nothing else. Hillary is toast. That's it.

Bernie won't be able to protect her this time.

[daleanime]

1. Huh?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

3. Read it and weep...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511091339

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. What are you talking about?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

4. Hillary emails classified as Top Secret and won't be released...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511091339

[KingFlorez]

9. And?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-clinton-emails-withhold-idUSKCN0V72JB

"The State Department will be denying in full seven email chains, found in 22 documents representing 37 pages," said State Department spokesman John Kirby. "The documents are being upgraded at the request of the Intelligence Community because they contain a category of Top Secret information ... These documents were not marked classified at the time they were sent."

Seems like we are back at square one. Bernie doesn't have the authority to indict and even if he did, he needs the damn evidence to do it and this isn't no damn evidence.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

13. Don't put Hillary's email habits off onto Bernie. Bernie had nothing to do with that email mess.

And what are you talking about Bernie indicting her and needing evidence? What's that all about?

[Fumesucker]

16. Palinesque that was...

[KingFlorez]

17. You mentioned something about Bernie protecting her in your opening post

I'm not sure what you meant by that, so my response was sarcastic.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

19. Behold...

[KingFlorez]

22. It would have been helpful to post that video in the OP

Otherwise, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

[phleshdef]

34. I thought it was painfully obvious for anyone paying attention.

[ljm2002]

58. It was. n/t

[frylock]

14. The fuck does Bernie have to do with this?

[KingFlorez]

18. Calm down

Ask the OP what they meant by "Bernie can't protect her". That really made no sense and I was mocking the absurdity.

[BillZBubb]

30. It made total sense if you had been paying attention to the campaign.

[frylock]

33. It was in reference to "nobody cares about the damed emails"

Team Hillary is probably scrambling to get a sanctioned debate together by tomorrow so their moderator can bring up the emails and give Bernie an opportunity to bail her ass out yet again.

[ljm2002]

57. It is sad when the poo-flinging is as off base as this...

..."Bernie doesn't have the authority to indict".

Actually its freakin' hilarious!

[in_cog_ni_to]

5. I agree 100%!

TOAST!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[awake]

6. The Cliton's have lots of enemies but Hillary's biggest enemie is

Her self she brought this on her self by using a home baked email server she can not blame anyone else.

[winter is coming]

8. The irony of this is that I bet she did it in hopes of avoiding leaving a trail

of emails that might be used against her in a Presidential campaign.

[awake]

12. How true

As they say if you have done nothing wrong then why are you hiding things.

[JudyM]

26. Most likely. But to not be super diligent about not using it for sensitive national security matters

just makes no sense from a "good judgment" perspective.

[closeupready]

11. +1

[Warren DeMontague]

27. It's almost Shakespearean.

And the obvious parallels to the self-inflicted travails of a certain other mid-late 20th Century politician are inescapable.

[earthside]

63. Make that comparison ...

... in plain language and you will be 'alerted.'

But that is my contention, too.
I think she has a lot of the same characteristics as that of that "mid-late 20th Century politician" to whom you refer.

I think that is why she wanted her own email server, like having her own taping system.

Is that "perfectly clear"?

[Warren DeMontague]

66. Yeah-

exactly.

[Autumn]

7. It's not going away now. The pukes are going to be all over this.

[joshcryer]

21. Three threads already.

Definitely puke worthy.

[Autumn]

23. Does it upset you? I wonder how soon the pukes call for more hearings, I will find that

puke worthy if I have to keep hearing about this boneheaded mistake of hers.

[joshcryer]

25. Doesn't bother me, cracks me up.

Watch what Sanders says about it. He certainly won't be taking Nolan Finley's dirty advice.

[Autumn]

32. It's cute how you Hillary supporters believe everything she does wrong is someone else's fault.

[joshcryer]

37. Well sure, I support democrats.

And an opposed to ratfucking.

[awake]

48. Hillary "rat*ucked" herself no one else to blame here

[joshcryer]

50. Dean supporters didn't swift boat.

Never forget that.

[awake]

52. ?

[Autumn]

54. Are you calling the Obama administration rat fuckers? They are the ones who released this

and Hillary was the one who brought this down on her own head.

[joshcryer]

55. Nope.

[Autumn]

56. So who is ratfucking who ? Bernie and his supporters had nothing to do with this.

[joshcryer]

59. You don't think she's toast?

[Autumn]

60. Yes I do, Even if she wins the nomination she's toast. The media and the republcans will

beat this to death. Bill Clinton or Obama could get away with this, they have charisma and democrats for the most part trust them.

[joshcryer]

64. And you'd help, right?

Ooh, damn, I forgot, you actively run a site to do that! Meanwhile the young people who want Sanders to defeat Clinton might just shrug it off since they think she'd lose anyway.

Why fight for something if the thing you're against is going to lose anyway?

We have work to do and this is a distraction. I'm already seeing a bump in the polls for Clinton over this dead horse. All that free advertising.

[Autumn]

65. I'll fucking talk about it and give my opinion on it if I feel like it. That's what people do

on a discussion board. Poll bump already??? Sure. Got a link to that poll where she has a bump over the Obama administration releasing the info about those classified e mails today ? Yes I do and it's a damn fine site, no secret rooms, no anti semitism, no racists bullshit being posted, rather nice.

[Warren DeMontague]

28. It's all over the AP, CBS, CNN

I would say it's not entirely surprising that people are talking about it here.

[joshcryer]

36. Celebratory threads?

Certainly FOX News is going there. But it doesn't have much staying power.

[Warren DeMontague]

41. Like I said, it's all over the news. Not just FOX.

I'm not celebrating. I fear she's gonna be our nominee anyway, and combine this with the demostratively depressing, uninspired, craptastic campaign she's running, and we're in big trouble.

And even if she makes it to the WH, this isn't going away.

Fuck no I'm not "celebrating".

But maybe the people who have spent the past 6 months having a tumblr temper tantrum over Sanders and his evil "berniebros" ought to consider whether this guy they've been fulminating against all this time may actually be our best shot to hold on to the WH, after all.

[joshcryer]

43. Of course Sanders would be better on that count.

But do you see him coming from behind with 'bros' sending the inevitable narrative?

[Warren DeMontague]

44. I think whatever he's been doing has been working just fine

he came into this deal at like 3% and now he's pretty friggin' competitive.

Meanwhile Hillary has ran a campaign even worse than I thought she would, which is saying something. It also says something that Hillary's supporters here get all excited about a Dana Millbank op-ed which, while suggesting Sanders shouldn't get the nod, calls Hillary's politics and campaign "dreary", "uninspiring" and "inauthentic".

This is the kind of praise they're PSYCHED to get, apparently. So even her supporters seem to grok that there's something wrong.

And all the bargle about "Sanders supporters are alienating people on the interwebs" is just that- a meme being pushed which has very little relationship to what voters are actually basing their decisions on, namely things like issues.

[joshcryer]

46. You and I both know we need IA.

A win or a very very close match. A blow out for Clinton gives her momentum going in to NH, and there's no recovery from that.

This is a key moment for the campaign, and it feels very much like 2004. Only Dean supporters didn't swift boat Kerry.

[Warren DeMontague]

47. I think it is massively unrealistic to imagine that people arent going to talk about this.

And Not because they're "catapulting RW memes"- this is a developing, active news story. It's not a jerome corsi swiftboat deal manufactured by Karl Rove.

Especially given that Clinton's supposed strength as a candidate is one of the main pillars of the arguments used to support her. Screw actual positions on actual issues, it's all about "electability"

This weakens her, and it would appear it is not going away. So if she is a weakened candidate, then why are we supposed to support her over Sanders, again?

[joshcryer]

49. Sure, that's what we're doing.

And I'm saying there's nothing there. Like there was nothing there the other hundred times it's come up. I'm, like Sanders, tired of hearing about those damn emails.

That's supporting Sanders.

[Warren DeMontague]

53. Im also tired of hearing about how "Sanders white supremacist volvo driving male patholgy supporters

Are internet bullies because they disagreed with me on twitter"

That shit has been going non stop for months.

I'd love it if we could just talk about the issues.

Like long-overdue removal of marijuana from the CSA, for one, which sanders supports. Hopefully Hillary will "evolve" and support as well, because as others have noted, it might help her sagging numbers with Millennials.

[SamKnause]

10. Damn.

This is not good for the Democratic party.

[smiley]

62. It's the best thing that could happen to the democratic party

Hillary brings nothing buy baggage to the party.

[frylock]

15. Good. Night. Now.

She's done.

[joshcryer]

20. Yeah, no.

But it should give all the faux Sanders supporters something to latch on to as they already are pushing the inevitable narrative.

Fact is Sanders is still behind and there's a lot of work to do.

[Autumn]

24. That's the ticket. Blame Bernie supporters. They did this

to Hillary.

[joshcryer]

29. Saying Clinton is done tells people they don't have to do anything.

I'm not blaming anyone, I'm saying don't fall for it. Sanders won't.

[MissDeeds]

35. Yeah, we're part of that vast right wing conspiracy

that has been plaguing the Clintons for decades.

[Warren DeMontague]

31. If she implodes all the polling to date means nothing.

[Jarqui]

39. She didn't quit when Obama had her on the mat I doubt she's going anywhere

soon.

There are a number of qualities I do not care for in her but one that I do admire in her is that she is not a quitter.

Roll up your sleeves and get back to work. We have a vote on Monday!

[Robbins]

67. withouta doudt

she will not drop out till primarys are over even if bernie wins iowa,NH,Nevada and SC.

doesn't matter if she is prosecuted or not.this story is out and it renforces her being not honest and untrustworthy.

This will be all over sunday morning shows.It will be in iowa voters minds on monday.

Get ready for monday.shit that is about to be unleashed on bernie after he wins monday isn't going to be pretty.

[pinebox]

40. She's done.

Sorry but there is no way she is getting out of this. She's in huge trouble legally.

[farleftlib]

42. Fox News (I know I know)

is all over this, saying the WH comments are strange and they're just stonewalling. Their legal 'expert' saying these 22 emails were so damaging to National Security that they're being withheld but this was clearly illegal because they were on the unsecured server.

My guess is the other news outlets are letting this get lost in the Friday news dump, pre-caucus chatter but it isn't going away.

[SDJay]

45. I Was Just Gonna Say

Beware of the Friday news dump. They could dump something like this on the Saturn News Network at 4 a.m. on Super Bowl Sunday and it would still not slip through.

Whether any of this is legitimate or not, it's a disaster for HRC and perhaps all of us who don't want to see some neanderthal in the White House next year.

She needs to either spill the beans or deal with it in some way that moves this towards completion. The longer it goes on, the worse it'll get.

[morningfog]

51. And even worse, there are 5,000 still to be released by State,

some of which may be withheld for security reasons.

AND the FBI is still looking through the servers and the 30,000 emails Hillary refused to give to State. Such a liability for the Dems. She screwed us all over.

[JTFrog]

61. Again?

Sheesh, as many times as we've been told that Hillary is "toast" here, this can only be wishful and delusional thinking.

[Le Taz Hot]

68. I don't know about that.

Obama will be in the background running interference for her and the MSM will feign shock but allow unlimited time for her press secretary and other surrogates to explain how all of this is just a giant misunderstanding.

But . . . it comes 2 days before Iowa so they only have 2 days to spin it. This has been some kinda weird campaign season.