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New...Nate Silver...Hillary 80% chance to win Iowa (Original Post) workinclasszero Jan 2016 OP
I aggregated the last five polls. The MOE is 1,73. Hillary's lead is 3.3%. That's outside the MOE DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #1
She has been in the lead the last 5 polls workinclasszero Jan 2016 #8
Add up the amount of respondents to the last five polls... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #9
The lead has to be twice the MOE to be outside the MOE jfern Jan 2016 #18
Fingers crossed! Agschmid Jan 2016 #2
Fingers working phone banks so that corporate woman doesn't win. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #10
You assume I'm not out doing the same? Agschmid Jan 2016 #12
Please be right, nate arely staircase Jan 2016 #3
Otherwise you are going to have some 'spalini to do - nt KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #6
There was a 20% chance of rain the other day and we got it Quixote1818 Jan 2016 #4
What would it say about Bernie if he just barely wins workinclasszero Jan 2016 #7
Sure, I suspect Hillary will probably win Quixote1818 Jan 2016 #23
Good luck with that. Fearless Jan 2016 #5
K&R! stonecutter357 Jan 2016 #11
His charts don't seem to account for the shift of O'Malley voters if he can't reach 15% threshold. thesquanderer Jan 2016 #13
I read that at best that would be a 1 or 2% difference workinclasszero Jan 2016 #15
Her chances of winning the nomination are even better than that!! :-D NurseJackie Jan 2016 #14
Oh yeah! workinclasszero Jan 2016 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2016 #17
Time will tell workinclasszero Jan 2016 #19
Nate Silver is not a flawless prophet AZ Progressive Jan 2016 #20
The poll that matters is Monday night workinclasszero Jan 2016 #21
K&R. I.m counting on Nate being right, as usual lunamagica Jan 2016 #22
DU rec...nt SidDithers Jan 2016 #24
how does he come up with 80 percent with the poll being as close as it is JI7 Jan 2016 #25
geography hill2016 Jan 2016 #27
how are they wasted ? if they are in college towns and will not vote JI7 Jan 2016 #28
it's like the electoral system in the general election hill2016 Jan 2016 #29
This is why caucuses are undemocratic. joshcryer Jan 2016 #31
doesn't it depend on how many show up ? JI7 Jan 2016 #32
no hill2016 Jan 2016 #33
Nate Silver is good at what he does. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #26
He's very good at reading polls. But, he is very bad at understanding trends. w4rma Jan 2016 #30

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
1. I aggregated the last five polls. The MOE is 1,73. Hillary's lead is 3.3%. That's outside the MOE
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:22 PM
Jan 2016

I welcome others to check my math.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
8. She has been in the lead the last 5 polls
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:38 PM
Jan 2016

Is that right DSB?

I would call that a Clinton surge just days before the caucus!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. Add up the amount of respondents to the last five polls...
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:40 PM
Jan 2016

Add up the amount of respondents to the last five polls, add em up, and calculate the margin of error. It's 1.73.


It's math, not magic.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
12. You assume I'm not out doing the same?
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:54 PM
Jan 2016

Big assumption.

I must be one of those really lazy Hillary supporters...

Oh DU.

Anyways good on you for getting involved!

Quixote1818

(28,928 posts)
4. There was a 20% chance of rain the other day and we got it
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:25 PM
Jan 2016

Clearly Hillary has a better shot but it's so close anything can happen. If I was told there was a 20% chance I could have cancer I would be freaking out. I would not be surprised at all to see Sanders squeek it out.
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
7. What would it say about Bernie if he just barely wins
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:32 PM
Jan 2016

a state tailor made for him? Like 90 some percent white northern state.

It means he's dead in the water starting in South Carolina

And he will get wasted come super tuesday.

But I'm not conceding Iowa at all! Nate says 80% chance for a Hillary victory. I will take that all day long lol

Quixote1818

(28,928 posts)
23. Sure, I suspect Hillary will probably win
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:37 AM
Jan 2016

and we will be stuck with the status quo with the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer, more war entanglements. If that gets you excited then enjoy your wages staying stagnant and another Wall Street crash in a few years.
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
15. I read that at best that would be a 1 or 2% difference
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:01 PM
Jan 2016

So it really wouldn't affect the race.

I can't remember where but you could probably Google it sorry.

Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
20. Nate Silver is not a flawless prophet
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:12 PM
Jan 2016

From Politico last year:

Nate Silver fared terribly in Thursday's UK election: In his pre-election forecast, he gave 278 seats to Conservatives and 267 to Labour. Shortly after midnight, he was forecasting 272 seats for Conservatives and 271 for Labour. But when the sun rose in London on Friday, Conservatives had an expected 329 seats, against Labour's 233.


"There are lots of reasons to worry about the state of the polling industry," Silver concluded, citing a range of factors. "There may be more difficult times ahead for the polling industry."


Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/05/nate-silver-polls-are-failing-us-206799#ixzz3ymu1SBmg

Having said that, recent polls are going in Hillary's direction, but polls don't tell you exactly what will go on come the big day.
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
21. The poll that matters is Monday night
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:14 PM
Jan 2016

I know this.

But in the meantime I'm feeling good about my candidates chances.

 

hill2016

(1,772 posts)
27. geography
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:49 AM
Jan 2016

a lot of Sander's supporters are in college towns which means their votes are "wasted"

JI7

(89,247 posts)
28. how are they wasted ? if they are in college towns and will not vote
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:53 AM
Jan 2016

as a result they would not be counted in the polls .

 

hill2016

(1,772 posts)
29. it's like the electoral system in the general election
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:55 AM
Jan 2016

lots of democrats in California and New York but their votes are wasted. Much better to have them in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida etc.

Same thing here. Many of Sander's supporters are in college towns, which award proportionately less delegates than rural Iowa counties.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
31. This is why caucuses are undemocratic.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:57 AM
Jan 2016

If Sanders gets the popular vote but loses the delegate count, it will be interesting to see how caucus defenders react. I think it will be a bullshit outcome if that's what it comes to.

 

hill2016

(1,772 posts)
33. no
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:59 AM
Jan 2016

number of delegates is fixed at the county level.

hence the college student votes are wasted.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
30. He's very good at reading polls. But, he is very bad at understanding trends.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:56 AM
Jan 2016

He's got serious blind spots.

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