2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPrimary Poll: Who did you initially support in the 2008 Primary Process?
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John Edwards | |
17 (40%) |
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Joe Biden | |
1 (2%) |
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Barack Obama | |
13 (31%) |
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Dennis Kucinich | |
7 (17%) |
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Hillary Clinton | |
3 (7%) |
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Mike Gravel | |
1 (2%) |
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Bill Richardson | |
0 (0%) |
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Chris Dodd | |
0 (0%) |
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bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Now I'm voting for Bernie because although Obama got some change he did not get the changes for the middle class that I wanted or that he promised. Bernie is for what I want.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I have always liked her warts and all. Warts is not about Hillary at all.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)wyldwolf
(43,891 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)I voted for Jesse Jackson too ......and I'mproud of it .
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Bjornsdotter
(6,123 posts)Edwards
Hillary
Obama
zappaman
(20,618 posts)My bad.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Imagine being stuck with something along those lines.
I think situations like that people should be able to petition admin for some leeway on switching.
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hifiguy
(33,688 posts)suggested his supporters go to Obama I was impressed. The Kennedy endorsements sealed the deal for me. Never once even considered HRC.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)I was a Kuch supporter, then Edwards and then O when I grew disgusted with Clinton's tactics. I was never a big fan of his, but he was better than Clinton to me at that point.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)rocktivity
(44,885 posts)Last edited Sun Feb 7, 2016, 05:27 PM - Edit history (2)
But you're asking about the actual primary...
I preferred Obama because of Hillary's DLC ties, but was fully prepared to back her once his pipe dream of a campaign came to a humiliating end no later than the first Super Tuesday. He wasn't expected to win my state's primary -- and didn't -- but I voted for him because I decided it would probably be as close as I would ever come to voting for a black presidential candidate!
rocktivity
Mike__M
(1,052 posts)Sen. Mike "Who-are-we-planning-to-nuke" Gravel, until he dropped out, then Kucinich for a week or two until he dropped out, then Obama.
I believed and resented the inevitability argument at the beginning, and hoped Edwards could push things leftward.
Gravel was a true fringe candidate, who got in to push his pet issue, but he was shouting things on the debate stage that needed to be shouted, and I wanted to see him up there poking the establishment for as long as possible.
karynnj
(59,999 posts)Then Obama after ruling everyone else out.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Thanks for your answer, btw.
karynnj
(59,999 posts)leader and statesman of his generation - in spite of never becoming President , I had to list him.
In retrospect had he continued with a run, history would have changed -- and probably not with him winning. Had he stayed in he would have split the anti Hillary vote with Obama, who I think would still have run - and I suspect that could have led to a HRC win or no one getting enough delegates.
Had he run, he could not have run for re-election and there is no way that Clinton would have put him in her government - as Obama did her.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Sanders supporters were being hypocritical on Hillary's IWR vote.
I said plainly and early on that i felt we needed to run someone who could articulate a moral argument against that war without the baggage of having voted for it. That, to my mind, disqualified kerry, edwards and Hillary at the time. So at least ive been consistent.
I have great respect for John Kerry, mind you, and i did support him in the '04 primaries, but in retrospect i think we may have done better with someone who hadnt voted for the iwr. As it was, i wish he had fought back harder amd sooner against corsi and the swift boat shit. That was a tactical error imho.
But still have scads of respect for the man.
karynnj
(59,999 posts)I don't think that anyone could have done better than Kerry did in 2004. Remember, Bush was at about 60 percent in December 2003. No one else could have completely blown Bush away in that first foreign policy debate.
As to the war vote, I had followed both of them from 2002 on. Dean supported at least as aggressive a position on Saddam as Kerry before the vote. He did say he would have voted for Biden/Lugar, but he did not have to vote. Not to mention, where Clinton and Edwards were fully behind the invasion, Kerry in January was saying not to rush to war and was labeled anti-war until the IWR vote became a litmus test mid 2003 - largely by the Dean campaign. Kerry's history and his comments made me comfortable that he was absolutely not a hawk. Having protested in DC and NYC with three preteen and teen daughters, I would not have supported him in the primary if I would have thought that he was a hawk.
Though a strong moral argument against the war could have worked in the Primary, the country was definitely not ready for that. In fact, Kerry DID state a strong moral argument - though many missed it. Every day, in his standard speech he said that Bush mislead us into war by not exhausting the diplomacy as he promised - thus it was not a war of last resort. I know people who that greatly angered because it meant that the war the US was fighting was not a just war. (My Catholic mom, a wing voter, was absolutely furious because of that.) She voted for Obama in 2008. In his case, he was not giving a moral case, but said it was "a dumb war" and that it was a blunder.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)centrist (which turns out to be the case), so I went to Edwards, because he was talking about poverty and such, and then back to Obama once the crap hit the fan with Edwards. ... Never, ever Hillary, though.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)studyshare
(49 posts)John Poet
(2,510 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Obama/Richardson
He thought I was nuts.
(I like Biden too, but I didn't think 2 Senators on the same ticket was a great idea.)
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I think I had switched to Edwards by Iowa, though.
redwitch
(15,084 posts)It was his Two Americas speech that resonated with me.
As I got to see and hear Barack Obama I was pleased and ultimately voted for him.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)I would do the same with Sanders. So far, I haven't seen a solid argument.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)time I saw him in '04.
I would have voted for our eventual Nominee. I wasn't here in '08. I was posting on Politico and none of the threads exist anymore..I looked.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I think I started DU not long after the March for Womens Lives in DC. (2004) I was feeling particularly engaged.
GoneOffShore
(17,635 posts)She's been pandering to the right since she started.
ms liberty
(9,874 posts)When he didn't, I picked Obama. I still think he was the best choice of the group that ran. He's been a good president, although he has also disappointed me in some areas by not being as liberal/progressive as I wanted. Hillary was my last choice in 08, as she is now.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Hell, I'd support him this year if he got in.