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"No conscience, no empathy . . . we have to bring them to heel" who said it, Clinton or Sanders? (Original Post) Fumesucker Feb 2016 OP
"bring them to heel" farleftlib Feb 2016 #1
No more than "Where the Boys Are" is sexist Fumesucker Feb 2016 #2
right up there with obama boys roguevalley Feb 2016 #22
Huh. Keene State. (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #3
I found that statement frightening. SamKnause Feb 2016 #4
Jesus Christ! Who IS that? How far can POC overlook shit like that?? Bonobo Feb 2016 #5
Trust me, there are nyabingi Feb 2016 #8
I already know it. Bonobo Feb 2016 #14
Cool nyabingi Feb 2016 #21
She has an authoritarian streak that runs through so much of her rhetoric. reformist2 Feb 2016 #6
definitely-- it is one of the things that really puts me off most about her Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #12
Presidential material everyone! Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #7
She must be talking about the super predators on Wall Street like Blankfein. LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #9
Cut it out! But it is odd how she treats boys like adults, but adults on Wall Street like children. reformist2 Feb 2016 #17
"Bring them to heel..." Fairgo Feb 2016 #10
I agree with her. sulphurdunn Feb 2016 #11
And thanks to that, we have prisons filled with dangerous grannies who were caught with pot plants. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #13
As always, Warren, you fail to understand the nuances Fumesucker Feb 2016 #18
Such very caring and UglyGreed Feb 2016 #15
Scary. nt Zorra Feb 2016 #16
I can't do the video right now so I looked it up and she's talking about kids... Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #19
Yes, dog training. That is the way she thinks of people as dogs to be taught to heel on command Fumesucker Feb 2016 #20

nyabingi

(1,145 posts)
8. Trust me, there are
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:06 AM
Feb 2016

many Black men like myself who aren't overlooking it and it's one of many reasons I could never in good conscience cast my vote for Hillary Clinton. I'd like to see her try to explain this comment today.

nyabingi

(1,145 posts)
21. Cool
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:40 AM
Feb 2016

I'm still working on convincing my parents - they're in their 70's and think no one is going to vote for a self-described socialist, but they're not overly thrilled with Hillary.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
7. Presidential material everyone!
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 07:33 AM
Feb 2016

Just make the prison industry donations out to Debbie. Hillary will get back to you AFTER she has won the primaries, when there is no more chance of an actual reformer doing something about institutional racism.

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
9. She must be talking about the super predators on Wall Street like Blankfein.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:07 AM
Feb 2016

or kids like the affluent boy

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
11. I agree with her.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:21 AM
Feb 2016

"No empathy, no conscience." We need to bring those Wall Street predators to heel. Maybe Hillary too.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
18. As always, Warren, you fail to understand the nuances
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:27 AM
Feb 2016

You see marijuana needs more study so that the active ingredients can be properly patented and controlled by giant pharmaceutical interests who will then donate a small fraction of the yuuuge profits to my reelection campaign as God intended.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
15. Such very caring and
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:53 AM
Feb 2016

comforting words, a true progressive who believe in second chances and lifting people up and not beating them down.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. I can't do the video right now so I looked it up and she's talking about kids...
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:29 AM
Feb 2016

"They are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called ‘super-predators.’ No conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way but first we have to bring them to heel."


Cambridge dictionary of idioms defines 'bring to heel' in this way:
bring somebody to heel- to force someone to obey you


It is of course a phrase taken from the training of dogs and thus not one I would personally use about any people.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
20. Yes, dog training. That is the way she thinks of people as dogs to be taught to heel on command
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:14 AM
Feb 2016

Poor people are conscienceless, sociopathic animals who need to be treated just like dogs, not human beings with minds and thoughts of their own.

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