2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie is within 3 points of Hillary in swing-state Virginia
Our primary is March 1st and we are an open primary state. I know several Republicans in my very red county, who will be crossing over and voting for Bernie. Never thought I'd see such a thing in these parts, but he does appear to be doing well in many rural parts of America.
Virginia has been trending blue since 2008.
http://overtimepolitics.com/clinton-leads-sanders-in-virginia-by-3-points-49-46/
Nyan
(1,192 posts)Perogie
(687 posts)He thinks the Republican candidates are a joke.
He thinks Bernie is right on. He thinks Clinton is a crook and liar.
He is thinking about voting for Bernie.
Successful movements that changed the course of this country were when people of both Parties came together.
We have to stop dividing this country and bring people together, that's the only way we will stop the gridlock in Washington.
Hillary can't do that. Her negatives are too high and moderate Republicans/Independents won't vote for her.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)She should be way ahead there.
Terrible candidate, just terrible.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)The blue dogs are losing their grip over our party. It's a new day!
amborin
(16,631 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)So there's that.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)They over-represented Clinton's strength in New Hampshire.
If they haven't updated their model, Sanders could be very slightly ahead in Virginia.
http://overtimepolitics.com/sanders-leads-clinton-by-14-points-in-new-hampshire-55-41/
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)They just flat-out make stuff up
w4rma
(31,700 posts)Just don't take the rest of us down with you.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)These numbers may even turn out to be correct for all I know.
None of that changes the objective fact that Overtime Politics is a shady organization.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)Hillary Clinton leads Bernie Sanders by 3 points in Virginia - 49 - 46%.
Clinton has seen her poll numbers drop in VA since the last Overtime Politics poll of the state, dropping 5 points, while Sanders has risen 7 points.
Clintons support is strong among non-Caucasians, those aged 46+, and people making over $65,000 a year. Sanders draws his support from Caucasians, those 18 - 30, and people making between $10,000 - $45,000/year.
The spread between Clinton and Sanders is relatively small, which gives undecided voters the chance to swing the state either way on March 1st.
This poll was conducted by telephone to include 431 likely Democratic primary voters, with a margin of error of 5%. Phone numbers were selected at random through public phone records and cell phone lists.
Likely Democratic primary voters were asked the following questions:
1. Who do you plan on selecting in the 2016 Democratic primary? Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, or are you undecided?
2. Are you male or female?
3. How old are you?
4. What ethnic identity best describes you: White/Caucasian, Black/African-American, Hispanic/Latino, Asian, Native American/Other?
5. What is your yearly personal income before taxes: Under $10,000, $10,001- $25,000, $25,001 - $45,000. $45,001 - $65,000, above $65,000?
Our polls are conducted by live interviewers pulling numbers from public phone record searches and cell phone lists. Cell phone users make up about 25% of all respondents.
We do not use previous voter lists or voter registration lists. In order to determine if a person is planning on voting in the primary/caucus, we ask: "Do you plan on voting in the Democratic or Republican primary/caucus on (date)?"
If they say yes, depending on if they answer Democratic or Republican, we ask them the 5 questions found above.
http://overtimepolitics.com/pollingdata/OvertimePolitics.comFeb12-Feb14DemocraticPrimaryPoll-Virginia.pdf
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)w4rma
(31,700 posts)And fixed these errors. If I were them, I would have documented each edit, of course. That said, they are a small shop and they are pretty new at this, and they seem to be working on tight timetables, so there are bound to be growing pains, early on, as they work out the "bugs".
I like to see more competition in the polling business, not less, so I hope that they are responsive to their critics and improve their work as time goes on.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)Their timing is impeccable.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)SheenaR
(2,052 posts)had Bernie by 22 in NH. Nobody else did.
I believe they had the delegate count correct in Iowa too
Some joke.
bigtree
(85,917 posts)...you might want to check that polling outfit a bit more.
I'm not sure this is a legitimate poll.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)But I do like a pollster that calls cell phones as well.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)Like progressive, real Democrats dealing with Debbie!
Duval
(4,280 posts)appalachiablue
(41,053 posts)-MEETING THE CAMPAIGNERS HOPING TO MAKE SANDERS THE NEXT US PRESIDENT-, FRANCE 24, Feb. 7, 2016
- Marta and David, Bernie Sanders Supporters at the Regional Campaign Headquarters in Richmond, Va.-
Bernie Sanders has delivered one of the biggest surprises of the US presidential race by proving to be a genuine contender for the Democratic nomination. FRANCE 24 met with some of the campaigners helping him take on the Clinton political machine.
"Going door to door, talking to your neighbours, your friends thats whats going to get Sanders elected," says Peter Clerkin, Sanderss 35-year-old campaign manager for Virginia, as he motivates his troops.
The team of local supporters, numbering a little more than 50, are gathered in a municipal hall in the state capital Richmond to inaugurate their new headquarters. Clerkins speech is interrupted by a chorus of Sanderss campaign slogan, Feel the Bern! followed by a burst of applause. The atmosphere is electric.
Sanders has been dubbed the new political idol of Democratic Millennials in the Iowa caucuses he won 84 percent of the votes among the 17-29 age group as well as a certain section of white middle-class voters.
At the Virginia HQ, however, people of all ages and backgrounds have turned out to offer their support.
Many are completely new to the world of political campaigning. When Clerkin asks people to raise their hands if this is their first experience in politics, arms shoot up from at least half the people in the room.
-Peter Clerkin, Sanders Campaign Manager for Virginia -
*The American dream hasnt happened for us*
What they all share is their enthusiasm for the self-proclaimed democratic socialist, as well as a sense that the current system is not working. Sanders has promised to fix the economy, break up banking giants, end collusion between politicians and the world of finance, provide universal health coverage and make affordable the exorbitant costs of university tuition. More:http://www.france24.com/en/20160207-bernie-sanders-campaigners-us-presidential-race-clinton
- Evandra Catherine, a Member of the Bernie Sanders Campaign in Virginia -
- Dereck Toro Says He Is Confident Sanders Will Win the Democratic Nomination -
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)...are they supporting Bernie across the board for a possible general election or are they just trying to drag out the Democratic primary? Did you ask them their motive?
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)If he is legitimately appealing to Republicans, then it seems he is the better general election candidate. Not even a moderate Republican will vote for the Clintons.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)because they like the fact that he can't be bought and he hasn't been corrupted by money.
They said all of the Republican candidates are corrupt and they made a bitter beer face
when I asked what they thought of Hillary, so I guess they won't be supporting her if she makes it to the GE. IMHO, we'll see Virginia go red once again if that happens.
Their motives are pure from what I could tell. They're genuinely concerned about the direction the country is heading and they're tired of the corruption they see in both parties. Trump scares they hell out of them, one even said they would leave the country for safety's sake if he becomes president. They describe Bernie as a breath of fresh air.
TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)Good to hear. People in both parties are tired of the corruption in our system. This is why I think Hillary can't win a general election. The Clintons are damaged goods and viewed as very corrupt by many people in both parties.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)Just fuckin wow
I might let myself get a little optimistic
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)People just cannot stand her anymore!
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Robbins
(5,066 posts)they were one of best pollsters in iowa having bernie ahead by 1 and underestimated bernie in NH having him ahead by 14.try and diss them all you want but they so far are doing better than most.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)Bernie 45, Hillary 50
I do hope he beats all my guesses.