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EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:46 AM Mar 2016

"To Understand the Clintons' Appeal in SC, Meet Bernice Scott"

To Understand the Clintons Appeal in SC, Meet Bernice Scott

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/02/27/to-understand-clintons-appeal-in-south-carolina-meet-bernice-scott/?postshare=2241456762955017&tid=ss_fb
Saturday morning, she was up and out early, heading to the small towns around Richland County, where she has lived for nearly 50 years, to help get out the vote for Clinton. As one of the first African Americans to serve on the county council, Scott is well-known and well-respected, a leader of a network of grassroots activists known as the “Reckoning Crew.” “Because if you don’t do right, you will have to reckon with us,” Scott said
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To the extent that Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders has struggled to connect with black voters in South Carolina, it is in large part because he doesn’t have political roots with people like Bernice Scott – ride or die supporters who have been with the Clintons for more than two decades... It is true that some of them defected to Obama in 2008, moved by the chance to make history by electing the first African American president. Some of them had a falling out with the Clintons, who were accused of using racially-tinged rhetoric to disparage Obama’s candidacy.

But Hillary Clinton’s favorable ratings never slipped underwater among African Americans, and polls have consistently shown that most have been happy to support her second bid for president. They say Clinton is the best qualified candidate, is an ally of Obama who will continue his policies and that she and her husband have history with black voters. These voters provided Clinton with a solid base of support that Sanders has been unable to crack.
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She is similarly dismissive of a renewed push by some Sanders supporters and activists sympathetic to the Black Lives Matter movement to call attention to Clinton's past support for anti-crime laws and welfare reform that some argue have disproportionately harmed black communities.

“You find me a person who has not made an error. That’s how we grow – from our mistakes -- and she has said over and over again that some of the things we worked on she didn’t understand at the time the whole impact it would have. But now she sees that and she’s been doing is trying to correct it."
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"To Understand the Clintons' Appeal in SC, Meet Bernice Scott" (Original Post) EffieBlack Mar 2016 OP
Thanks for the article. Interesting excerpt. Seems like its ok to say racist things... Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #1
Or they don't know Sanders Arazi Mar 2016 #2
this! SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #5
Yes, yes, we know EffieBlack Mar 2016 #7
Creationists for Hillary! ConsiderThis_2016 Mar 2016 #3
Has this lady never heard, "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me?" Live and Learn Mar 2016 #4
Bernie hasn't done anything much to make mistakes over. Voting against war is easy. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #6
That's because BernieSoPerfect that even his mistakes are inspired EffieBlack Mar 2016 #8
Bull. Live and Learn Mar 2016 #9

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
1. Thanks for the article. Interesting excerpt. Seems like its ok to say racist things...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:07 AM
Mar 2016

In the Democratic Party if you are a Clinton.

That lady recognized Clinton's racist slips and gave her an all-day hall pass.

Good for her.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
2. Or they don't know Sanders
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:17 AM
Mar 2016

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-sanders-black-voters-20160226-story.html


His hands caked in grime from his repair job, Walter Brown coughed out a laugh when asked for his thoughts about Bernie Sanders, whose insurgent presidential campaign has electrified liberals around the country.

“Who is Bernie Sanders?” he said while sitting on a bench during an afternoon break. Brown, 59, is already leaning toward Hillary Clinton and doesn’t plan to start researching other options.

“I don’t have time,” he said, gesturing toward the downtown building where he’s been working. “I’m here all day.”

Sanders’ effort to broaden his appeal beyond white progressives and young people has run into a roadblock here in the form of black working-class voters, who in interviews here this week repeatedly voiced their longtime loyalty to Clinton. Several echoed Brown’s point that they don’t have time to explore an alternative nor interest in learning about Sanders, a U.S. senator from Vermont who was practically unknown in South Carolina before launching his presidential bid.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
7. Yes, yes, we know
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:18 AM
Mar 2016

Because one black voter is quoted as saying he doesn't know who Bernie Sanders is, this is proof of what ALL black people know - because, of course, it's not a problem to attribute the behavior and attributes of one black person to the entire race.

And it's amusing to see Bernie supporters cut and paste this excerpt over and over again as supposed "evidence" that black voters as a whole don't know anything about Sanders since such a claim actually undercuts your argument that Bernie has been fighting so hard for civil rights all of his life.

What you don't seem to realize is that Bernie's problem is not that black people don't know enough about his record - it's that if he had been such a fighter for civil rights for black people, the people he has supposedly been fighting for all this time would know all about him without having a bunch of white people explain it to them. The very fact that he has had to campaign so hard to the black community is proof that he hasn't been there in the past - otherwise, they would know him well. The fact that Bernie's supporters feel they have to "introduce" Bernie to black people should tell you how absent he has been from their world for the past several decades.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
4. Has this lady never heard, "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me?"
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:15 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary hasn't made a 'mistake'. But a series of 'mistakes' and she has no intention of correcting them. This is just sad.

And why does she get a pass on her 'mistakes' when the kids that make mistakes end up being called 'super-predators' and locked in prison for decades?

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
6. Bernie hasn't done anything much to make mistakes over. Voting against war is easy.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:41 AM
Mar 2016

He doesn't even believe his vote for the crime bill was a mistake...he can rationalize it away and so can his supporters.

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