Mark my words: it will be Clinton/Warren in 2016

[JaneyVee]

There's a reason she hasnt endorsed yet, she is going to bridge the divide. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/elizabeth-warren-clinton-sanders-massachusetts-primary-220007

Feel free to bookmark this op.

[Logical]

1. No way, warren know Hillary too well. Nt

[JaneyVee]

6. Which is why she urged HRC to run.

[revbones]

23. Where did you read that?

[brooklynite]

29. Elizabeth Warren: I hope Hillary Clinton runs for president

Sen. Elizabeth Warren says she hopes Hillary Rodham Clinton runs for president in 2016 — the latest in a series of declarations of support by the Massachusetts Democrat, who some have speculated could seek the Oval Office herself.

"All all of the women — Democratic women I should say — of the Senate urged Hillary Clinton to run, and I hope she does. Hillary is terrific," Warren said during an interview broadcast Sunday on ABC's "This Week," noting that she was one of several senators to sign a letter urging Clinton to run in 2016.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2014/04/27/elizabeth-warren-i-hope-hillary-clinton-runs-for-president/

This isn't news.

[revbones]

32. Saying "I hope she does" in that context isn't quite the same as "urging" is it?

[brooklynite]

39. "noting that she was one of several senators to sign a letter urging Clinton to run in 2016. "

[onehandle]

2. What a pickle for the 'Not Hillary' Party.

After all, Elizabeth was their first choice. They settled for Sanders.

[JonLeibowitz]

17. Actually, we vote based on values, not personality. Also, we're not a monolith

There are many varied reasons to never ever vote for Hillary. We have a diversity of reasons to choose from.

[nichomachus]

53. Exactly

Mrs. Clinton is the one with the personality cult.

[litlbilly]

3. not a chance in hell

[JaneyVee]

7. Oh its happening.

[nichomachus]

54. There is no way

Hillary is going to have a VP who is smarter than she is, more popular than she is, and more honest than she is. Not - gonna - happen.

[Recursion]

55. What? Sure there is; other than Castro, Warren is the most obvious pick

You don't actually think either Warren or Sanders really feel about Clinton the way the DU Sanders brigade does, do you?



Oh, that's hilarious. You're being used and you don't even realize it. That's very cute.

Anyways: Warren would be more than happy to be her VP pick. For that matter so would Sanders, though that's less of a good choice.

[litlbilly]

62. Warren will never go with hillary, Bernie, absolutely

[Recursion]

64. Why did Warren endorse Clinton's Wall Street reform plan, then?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/07/elizabeth-warren-praises-hillary-clintons-wall-street-plan/

And why did she encourage Clinton to run in the first place?

[Godhumor]

4. I hope not. I want a VP young enough to run in 8 years

Still put me down for Castro.

[BillZBubb]

5. I really doubt that.

Warren would be tied to Hillary's policies. I doubt she wants that anchor around her neck.

[JaneyVee]

9. Bookmark this thread.

[Eric J in MN]

8. Maybe, but fans of Elizabeth Warren should vote for Bernie as the one more likely to make her VP.

For Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren would probably be the first person he asks, and he'd probably only consider other choices if she says No.

For Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren would probably be one of 15 people on a list of possible VPs.

[JaneyVee]

11. Hillary likes working with women.

[Eric J in MN]

15. She may choose a woman who endorsed her early if she's the presidential nominee. NT

NT

[JonLeibowitz]

18. That seems sexist. n/t

[JaneyVee]

26. Sorry you feel that way, Jon.

[JackRiddler]

48. Nonsense.

It looks and is great. I'd love to see A LOT more of this. You would not think for a minute if it was five men in the picture.

Too bad these particular women - Jarrett, Rice, Clinton, Power behind them - are in the business of creating wars. Always with humanitarian justifications of course. We came, we saw, he died, ha ha ha. Also, Power is the one who called Clinton a "monster." But anyway.

[JonLeibowitz]

50. No I have no problem with working well with women.

The implication was that Clinton was more willing to hire a woman as VP because she likes working with women. That is sexist.

I agree with the rest of your post.

[Recursion]

57. Even just geographically she's an awful VP pick for him

You don't double down on liberal New Englanders. He'd get somebody from the west or south, and from the other end of the ideological spectrum. Landrieu or something (southerner, conservative, crucial in getting ACA passed -- it's actually a decent idea).

[NV Whino]

10. Fffft

[Autumn]

12. here's what Liz had to say about the election

A new presidential election is upon us. The first votes will be cast in Iowa in just eleven days. Anyone who shrugs and claims that change is just too hard has crawled into bed with the billionaires who want to run this country like some private club.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/liam-miller/elizabeth-warren-sinks-clintons-hopes_b_9058526.html?


Out of the 2 candidates on our side that only seems to fit one of them. And that sure as hell isn't Bernie.

[JaneyVee]

21. A Huffpo blog!

I heard HA Goodman has one too!

[Autumn]

27. Deflection. You ignore what Liz said, since it doesn't quite fit your narrative.

Nice try JaneyVee.

[JaneyVee]

33. Taking a soundbite during a speech on a totally different subject....

And using it to attack another candidate based on no evidence is not only shallow, but an insult to Liz.

[Autumn]

45. I doubt Liz would consider actual words she has spoken to be an insult. She strikes me as a woman

who stands by what she says and believes. Unlike Hillary who backtracks frequently on what she says. Again. Nice try but you missed. Anyway I'm bored with this conversation so bye.

[JaneyVee]

46. Unbelievable. Its getting weird around here.

[hobbit709]

49. "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."

[JackRiddler]

51. The speech was not on a different subject. Here is the speech:

The quoted sentence was the thesis statement of the speech.

By the way, the author of the above video is not "youtube.com." I know some people seem to have (selective!) difficulties with the idea that the location of a web page does not always indicate the value or meaning of the content.

[Live and Learn]

13. Then at least we would have Warren when Hillary is indicted, I suppose. nt

[JaneyVee]

14. Only people I ever heard use the word indicted...

Are rightwingers. Seriously.

[Live and Learn]

16. Well now you have heard it from a leftwinger. I suggest you get use to it. nt

[JonLeibowitz]

19. I wonder what they'll be calling Loretta when she (hopefully) brings the charges forward.

[Live and Learn]

20. It won't be pretty, that is for sure. nt

[JaneyVee]

22. Thats some intersection.

[hobbit709]

41. Then all of us that wanted Nixon indicted are RWers?

THAT is what you just said.

[JaneyVee]

43. Didnt he break some law.

[Historic NY]

59. +1

[MrMickeysMom]

24. Okay.... I'll get my crayons out...

[bettyellen]

25. I think it is Castro. Two women is unfortunately, still a non-starter in the USA>

[JaneyVee]

30. A non starter?

[bettyellen]

36. dead out of the gate? not allowed?

[JaneyVee]

40. Says who?

[bettyellen]

44. just my opinion. I don't think the party is ready. And she needs someone from a further region

who can either get her a state or a demographic she needs to strengthen.
I cannot wait for the day a two women team is no big deal!

[kstewart33]

28. Great idea, but I'd bet that Warren has other plans. nt

[whatchamacallit]

31. That would be as disappointing as shocking n/t

[JaneyVee]

37. It wouldnt happen until after Bernie dropped out though.

[whatchamacallit]

65. I know you'll disagree, but

I don't think the folks who are purchasing Clinton have much love for Warren. She's the last person they want waiting in the wings.

[Arazi]

34. Bookmarking lol

[elleng]

35. Right, because they're so similar, right?

[Agnosticsherbet]

38. Thee will not be an all woman ticket.

If Warren wanted to be President, she could have run.

She has an agenda she wants to pass in the Senate, but needs a Democratic President, Senate, and House.

[JaneyVee]

42. What? Why?

[Agnosticsherbet]

52. Because Warren doesn't want that job . She could have run but chose the Senate.

Because Clinton will choose someone for a strategic value who will help with a significant constituency. I think her VP will be an Hispanic.

I thing three should be two women tickets, just as I agree with Ginsburg that there will be enough women on the Supreme Court When there are nine of them. If you can have two men tickets and nine men on the supreme court, why not.

It won't happen this time. The country is changing and shift left, but we have a ways to go.

[Recursion]

63. There have been 86 all male tickets so far, why not an all-female ticket?

And remember the VP has considerable power in the Senate, in some senses more than an individual Senator would.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

47. Conventional wisdom would say no: 2 women, and warren is from Mass - a sure bet for a Dem to win.

Although she may decide she really needs someone progressive. I could see her trying to get Sanders. Sanders may feel that he is needed to be in a leadership position and not go back to just being a senator. It's hard enough to get a woman elected much less two on the ticket.

I hope you're right though - this is a one of a kind election......

[7wo7rees]

56. Never.

[Hoyt]

58. That would be cool, but I doubt it. Sanders and/or Warren in cabinet would be cool too.

They can also be major allies that get some good stuff enacted.

[2pooped2pop]

60. Won't be enough for me.

I like Warren a lot,, but even she can't make me stomach Clinton

[NBachers]

61. I like the concept, but I don't want to poach from the Senate

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

66. That would be great! If the Clinton part was removed.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

67. want to make a friendly large bet?

...

[tularetom]

68. You are probably the last person around here whose words I would mark

If Warren hasn't endorsed anybody yet, she isn't going endorse anybody period.

She has a lot of credibility in the party now, the minute she makes an endorsement, she pisses off half the party and whooosh, the credibility is gone.

[McCamy Taylor]

69. This is definitely the Bill Clinton strategy. Pick someone like yourself (demographic) to prove your

self confidence. I really like Julian Castro and hope she goes with him. But I can get on board Clinton/Warren, too.

[longship]

70. Reminds me of the Warren is going to run for President claims earlier.

Even after she had said multiple times that she was not interested.

I'll bet my bottom dollar that she wouldn't say yes to this either.

Plus, although I am not supporting Hillary for the nomination, even she knows better than to select Warren as Veep. Why don't people here?