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Would you trust Hillary to keep us out of a war with Russia, and/or WWIII? (Original Post) AZ Progressive Mar 2016 OP
Nope. nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #1
No. nt VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #3
no, she always has to prove how "tough" she is. bbgrunt Mar 2016 #4
Don't be silly. Of course. Even Bush-Cheney kept out of war with Russia TheDormouse Mar 2016 #5
Secretaries of State have no power to declare war Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #19
Neither does POTUS. longship Mar 2016 #37
Well, technically speaking you're right Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #41
Let's start with the possibility of a war with Iran... PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #6
... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author AZ Progressive Mar 2016 #9
It's beginning to be silly. Next question: COLGATE4 Mar 2016 #39
Completely! Hoyt Mar 2016 #8
Yes nt gwheezie Mar 2016 #10
Nope, there WILL be war if Hillary is Potus 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #11
No one could keep us out of WWIII. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #12
NO!!!!! Arazi Mar 2016 #13
From her record, it appears she just likes bombing darker-skinned people. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #14
I don't think she is wanting WW3 outright but I do fear she does not fear war. NT. Juicy_Bellows Mar 2016 #15
нет Blue State Bandit Mar 2016 #16
I do fear Hillary would get us into a war-- "by increments" John Poet Mar 2016 #17
In all honesty, NO. TIME TO PANIC Mar 2016 #18
No. SamKnause Mar 2016 #20
NO!! grasswire Mar 2016 #21
Reason #2 why I voted for Bernie Sanders. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #22
I wouldn't trust her to add 2+2 and get 4. She is completely untrustworthy. ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #23
Absolutely not Depaysement Mar 2016 #24
No. I only trust her to protect the self-determined interests of a small foreign power leveymg Mar 2016 #25
No. She has a quick temper and poor judgment. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #26
We're going to have to. ucrdem Mar 2016 #27
Not in the least loyalsister Mar 2016 #28
Nyet. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #29
No Kittycat Mar 2016 #30
One good thing about being ruled by rich people, they have a vested interest in the world not ending Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #31
Are you delusional? n/t Onlooker Mar 2016 #32
Absolutely not n/t dana_b Mar 2016 #33
No, quite the opposite. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #34
NO 840high Mar 2016 #35
Not at all n/t Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #36
She called for a no fly zone where Russian planes are flying, so nope jfern Mar 2016 #38
One heck of a lot more than I would the Republicans. Bad Dog Mar 2016 #40
No RedCappedBandit Mar 2016 #42
Of course. treestar Mar 2016 #43
Hillary wants a "no-fly" zone in an area where Russian military jets are flying. Vinca Mar 2016 #44

Response to AZ Progressive (Original post)

TheDormouse

(1,168 posts)
5. Don't be silly. Of course. Even Bush-Cheney kept out of war with Russia
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:45 AM
Mar 2016

for cryin out loud.

Clinton was Sec of State 2009 - 2013. Did we go to war with Russia then?

I think she will work very hard to avoid war with Russia or China.

NOT sure she will make the best choices dealing with war/s in the Middle East, though.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
19. Secretaries of State have no power to declare war
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:15 AM
Mar 2016

But they apparently do have the power to stir up local hornets' nests.

And Bush and Cheney had no interest in declaring war on Russia-- hell, Bush even had his own cute little nickname for the Russian leader-- Pooty-Poot. And Bush's 2nd Secretary of State was supposedly a Russian specialist who showed no particular qualms with Russia-- after all, Russia was going gung-ho capitalist in those days.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
41. Well, technically speaking you're right
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:04 AM
Mar 2016

"The War Powers Resolution requires the President to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30 day withdrawal period, without a Congressional authorization for use of military force or a declaration of war by the United States. The resolution was passed by two-thirds of Congress, overriding a presidential veto."

But then, it's easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission:

"It has been alleged that the War Powers Resolution has been violated in the past – for example, by President Bill Clinton in 1999, during the bombing campaign in Kosovo. Congress has disapproved all such incidents, but none has resulted in any successful legal actions being taken against the president for alleged violations."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution

Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #7)

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
39. It's beginning to be silly. Next question:
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:16 AM
Mar 2016

Will Hillary slaughter 3 week old Golden Retriever puppies in the Oval Office to celebrate winning the Presidency? Stay tuned- inquiring minds want to know.

Jeez Louise.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
12. No one could keep us out of WWIII.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:56 AM
Mar 2016

She will keep us out of a war with Russia unless NATO gets involved. That's up to Turkey who appears to want a fight.
Clinton will respect our agreement with Iran, though they may end up in a war with the Saudi's who want a war with Syria.
It's a dangerous world.

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
23. I wouldn't trust her to add 2+2 and get 4. She is completely untrustworthy.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:34 AM
Mar 2016

There is only one candidate who will keep us out of perpetual war, and that is Bernie F. Sanders.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
25. No. I only trust her to protect the self-determined interests of a small foreign power
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:36 AM
Mar 2016

no matter what it costs us.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
27. We're going to have to.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:40 AM
Mar 2016

As for Bernie I have no confidence whatever in his abilities or intentions as he's basically taken a page from the Clinton I playbook and run on the economy period.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
28. Not in the least
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:56 AM
Mar 2016

From the fantasy about being under fire in Bosnia to the nauseatingly macho action movie "we came, we saw, he died' commentary, I get the impression that she glorifies war as much as the recent president who just had to wear the flight suit.
It is truly creepy.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
40. One heck of a lot more than I would the Republicans.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:18 AM
Mar 2016

Appeasement also leads to war in the long run. There's a fine line.

Vinca

(50,236 posts)
44. Hillary wants a "no-fly" zone in an area where Russian military jets are flying.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:15 AM
Mar 2016

What could possibly go wrong?

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