First wave of Oklahoma entrance/exit polls and they look encouraging for Secretary Clinton

[DemocratSinceBirth]

http://www.cbsnews.com/elections/2016/primaries/democrat/oklahoma/exit/

[berni_mccoy]

1. Yep, the wealthy going for Clinton. Good for her.

[hack89]

7. Because Oklahoma is where all the 1% move to. nt

[oasis]

66. Seen any travel brochures lately?

"Where the wind goes sweeping down the plain".

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. I know this week is going to be really trying for some people...

I know this week is going to be really trying for some people so I am summoning my better angels and call on my fellow Clinton supporters to do the same and ask them to treat our vanquished opponents with dignity and respect.

I am following the lead of General Grant who allowed General Lee to keep his horse and sidearm after he surrendered at Appomattox.


"With charity toward all and malice toward none."


-on edit-changed foes to opponents; a courteous and respectful adversary is an opponent, a disrespectful and discourteous opponent is a foe.

[brooklynite]

15. I am happy to do so...if the other side reciprocates...

[berni_mccoy]

22. I'm neither vanquished nor your foe. This attitude of Hillary supporters is what will lose her

The General Election. Keep looking at us as the enemies. that's a winning game.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. I am sorry

I'm neither vanquished nor your foe. This attitude of Hillary supporters is what will lose her
The General Election. Keep looking at us as the enemies. that's a winning game.

I am sorry...If a person calls me a liar they are my foe.


Oh, I am not saying you called me a liar but that is bad form.

[berni_mccoy]

29. It's too fucking late DSB. You've made your bed.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. Two points

It's too fucking late DSB. You've made your bed.

-bernie mccoy

Point one- I literally couldn't care less what you and your associates think of me.



Point two- If you think swearing at DemocratSinceBirth:

It's too fucking late DSB. You've made your bed

is going to make him cower and hide you don't know the first thing about him. It probably has a lot to do with the rarefied milieu from which you come but he would rather savor Hillary's upcoming victories than play an internet psychologist.

[NWCorona]

30. They won't realize that until it's to late.

[great white snark]

36. You are a foe if you're a Republican enabler.

And no matter what kind of shit you guys fling around I and most of my fellow supporters have never threatened not to vote for Bernie.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

41. Three points

Point one- Folks can vote for whomever they want
Point two- I have no desire to compel folks to vote the way I want. That would betray an authoritarian mindset and the last thing I am is an authoritarian.
Point three- You are correct...I have seen "I won't vote for Hillary if she is the nominee" threads that have garnered over one hundred recommendations. That is in contravention of the TOS:

Winning elections is important — therefore, advocating in favor of Republican nominees or in favor of third-party spoiler candidates that could split the vote and throw an election to our conservative opponents is never permitted on Democratic Underground.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

[CBGLuthier]

2. That's a fucking shame

I was hoping that the first time my daughters supported a candidate, they would get better results. Oh well, they will become jaded and sad like their dad at the inevitable rise of the mediocre, corrupt and compromised nature of american politics.

All hail the queen, she shall not be denied.

[randys1]

16. Or, you could explain that we make progess in baby steps. First Obama, then if necessary

Hillary...

I am devastated if Bernie loses, we need NOW universal healthcare and other things, not later.

But I cant give up completely as long as there is hope, and with a Dem in the WH there is hope

[CBGLuthier]

17. two steps backwards and one step forward will get us nowhere.

I do really genuinely fear she will not prevail in the general election which will not be progress of any kind. America hates this woman.

[BlueMTexpat]

23. Ten steps backward and

then completely over the cliff will be the situation if there is ANY GOPer in the WH.

Period.

[randys1]

24. America hates Hillary Clinton? wow..

I forgot where I was, never mind...cant post here

[BlueMTexpat]

19. +1! eom

[Svafa]

51. Great point.

A LOT of people are going to be thoroughly jaded with the political process if Hillary does win this.

[Iliyah]

3. Good morning DSB!

Thanks for the information although e/e polls . . . I'll take with a grain of salt.

[NurseJackie]

4. Oklahoma polling is a big surprise for me! I thought for sure this would go to Bernie.

[BlueMTexpat]

27. It will be close, IMO.

But I had encouraging results for Hillary while phone-banking to Oklahomans.

And despite yesterday's polling news, she was still up by >4% in the RCP spread. There may also be a bit of a bounce from the SC results.

I am still keeping my fingers VERY crossed.

[datguy_6]

5. So that was early voters as of Sunday?

"2/28/2016 6:49:38 PM
Polls Close: 8:00 PM ET
Sample Size: 1116
Last Polled: 12:11 PM ET"

[JaneyVee]

6. Isnt Bernie +8 there?

[OKNancy]

8. This must be early voting.

We have a three day early vote. Maybe it's two days... but this isn't for today.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. I cited the information verbatim

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OP claims entrance/exit polls.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1379334

Apparently lying

I cited the information, verbatim:

Oklahoma Democratic Entrance/Exit Poll
2/28/2016 6:49:38 PM Polls Close: 8:00 PM ET Sample Size: 1116 Last Polled: 12:11 PM ET
Download Questionnaire + View State Results + View County Results +

http://www.cbsnews.com/elections/2016/primaries/democrat/oklahoma/exit/

I cited the information, verbatim. I would tell you what I think of you calling me a liar but it would certainly result in a hide. Since you called me a liar I would respectfully request you screw up the courage, send me a private message calling me a liar, so we can discuss your calumny like two adults.

[OKNancy]

37. anyone can go to the link and see what the dates are

The OP is not lying. It is an entrance/exit poll, it's just not for this early morning.

I hope you will vote for the Democratic nominee.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

45. He should apologize for calling me a liar.

[riversedge]

46. Why are you calling a DU member a liar when the inforation is there for you to see?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

52. Why isn't he apologizing for calling me a liar?

Too late now.

[berni_mccoy]

20. It's 3 days on a Federal Primary. These numbers are based on exit polls Saturday.

[riversedge]

68. yes, they do have early voting in OK.

[vdogg]

9. I'm a Clinton supporter

But how can they already have exit polls? How could they possibly be accurate this early in the day? Polls don't even close till 9. Remember, initial exit polls had Hillary losing the white vote in SC when the updated ones had her winning. I wouldn't put too much stock in these just yet.

[virtualobserver]

11. look at the date on the exit poll

[Zynx]

12. I strongly suspect that these are placeholder values.

It doesn't make sense that they would have already polled that many people.

[virtualobserver]

14. even if they did poll, they wouldn't publish them

[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. Res ipsa loquitur

Oklahoma Democratic Entrance/Exit Poll
2/28/2016 6:49:38 PM Polls Close: 8:00 PM ET Sample Size: 1116 Last Polled: 12:11 PM ET
Download Questionnaire + View State Results + View County Results +

http://www.cbsnews.com/elections/2016/primaries/democrat/oklahoma/exit/

[virtualobserver]

33. they don't release exit polls until the polls close

[DemocratSinceBirth]

38. Here is the address for CBS. You can contact them.

CBS Headquarters
51 W. 52nd Street
New York, NY 10019-6188
1-212-975-4321

I cited the information, verbatim.

[virtualobserver]

47. those are placeholder numbers, unless they are very irresponsible

[DemocratSinceBirth]

49. If those are placeholder numbers they would be beyond irresponsible to publish them:

https://www.predictit.org/Market/1726/Who-will-win-the-2016-Oklahoma-Democratic-primary


But I have read them and re-read them and...re-read them and there is no indication they are anything but actual values.

[virtualobserver]

54. where did you find the link to this?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

55. At predictit Oklahoma

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http://www.cbsnews.com/electio...


https://www.predictit.org/Market/1726/Who-will-win-the-2016-Oklahoma-Democratic-primary


But that is immaterial. The link is to CBS news:

http://www.cbsnews.com/elections/2016/primaries/democrat/oklahoma/exit/

[virtualobserver]

57. not immaterial......you have to know the direct url to get to it.

There is no link to that page on the CBS website. So it is not "released".

[DemocratSinceBirth]

58. I googled "oklahoma democratic 2016 exit polls"

https://www.google.com/webhp?ei=PBDTVtaMGJbIjwP834iIBQ&yv=2&rct=j#q=oklahoma+democratic+2016+exit+polls



At 7:56 AM PST it was on top of the page.

[virtualobserver]

59. google picked that up from you, and from reddit...that is how google works

[DemocratSinceBirth]

60. This is beyond my ken.

If that's a phishing? site it is incumbent on the person making the claim to prove it.

[virtualobserver]

61. Find me a link to that page on the CBS site, then I will believe that it has been released.

until then....I call "maybe" on the data, at best.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

63. If there is a problem with the data it is not of my making.

I just followed links and cited information that appears to be valid.

[virtualobserver]

64. I'm not questioning you personally

[DemocratSinceBirth]

65. I will admit you planted a seed of doubt...

But if this was an elaborate ruse it was done well . It's been out there long enough for CBS to disavow it. The fact they haven't is indicative it is valid.


Still, it's beyond my ken. I am a social and political scientist and not a computer one.

[virtualobserver]

67. I don't think that it is a ruse.....I think that it is either real (and irresponsible)

or a placeholder.

CBS didn't have to publish either of those options live on the internet.

[frazzled]

62. Yeah, I think you're right: they never publish entrance/exit polls until late afternoon

It's probably a placeholder ... tba later today with real questions/numbers.

One clue is the number of different questions asking essentially the same thing (such as age or political leaning).

[BlueMTexpat]

18. May that trend continue!

Thanks for posting!

[lunamagica]

21. Sounds good!

[snooper2]

26. well, she has the retired female vote nailed!

[BlueMTexpat]

31. So are retired females now

thrown UTB along with AAs?

[grossproffit]

44. As opposed to retired males? What's your point?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

50. "As opposed to retired males? What's your point?"

[kstewart33]

34. DSB, could you post updates on these numbers?

Very interesting data.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. I found them in passing...

I saw them linked at the predictit/Oklahoma site:

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https://www.predictit.org/Market/1726/Who-will-win-the-2016-Oklahoma-Democratic-primary

The suggestion I lied is palpably absurd and libelous.

[OKNancy]

39. Geez people read the link and then the thread before embarrassing yourself

Oklahoma has a short early vote.
The dates on the link supplied are there for all to see.

I will add that early voting places are limited. In Tulsa it is downtown at the courthouse.
The people who vote there are usually downtown workers.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

53. I had to check. I was careful to say "First Wave".

[NaturalHigh]

40. Despite what recent polls have said...

I will be very surprised if Hillary Clinton doesn't win here.

[NaturalHigh]

69. Mea Culpa. I was wrong.

Congratulations to Bernie Sanders.

[Gamecock Lefty]

42. DemocratSinceBirth . . .

We got your back!!!

[ThePhilosopher04]

43. It's all rigged. You guys should know that by now.

We live in an Oligarchic/Fascist society where up is down and black is white. The ruling class will get their way. We are doomed.

[Codeine]

56. Oh good grief.

Don't mix your sads with your conspiracies. You'll get a tummyache.