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Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:54 PM Mar 2016

If your preferred candidate does not get the nomination, do you expect to vote in November

for the person that your preferred candidate endorses? I certainly do. If you respect someone enough that they are your preferred candidate, I would think that their endorsement would carry a lot of weight with you.

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If your preferred candidate does not get the nomination, do you expect to vote in November (Original Post) Nye Bevan Mar 2016 OP
Yes, of course, but MineralMan Mar 2016 #1
Endorsements don't matter revbones Mar 2016 #2
I should add revbones Mar 2016 #5
Yep. Vote for the policies, not the candidate. Bernie can do what he wants with his vote. n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #16
Bernie's policy list is more in line with Dem policies than with GOP/ALEC policies. blm Mar 2016 #32
There are other options. n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #40
There is no other result. n/t blm Mar 2016 #75
The result is having a clear conscience. n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #77
Good, that will be a big help during Supreme Court nominations…. blm Mar 2016 #84
Hillary will lose in the greatest landslide of all time yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #88
Then elect Bernie. n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #89
I support Sanders. I also comprehend math. blm Mar 2016 #93
110% JaneyVee Mar 2016 #3
No doubt about it. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #4
Yes!!! Gamecock Lefty Mar 2016 #6
Of course PJMcK Mar 2016 #7
I always vote and I always vote my conscience dragonfly301 Mar 2016 #8
Yup, will be voting for Bernie if Hillary doesn't get the nod obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #9
I intend to vote for the candidate who, in my opinion, will do the most for me tularetom Mar 2016 #10
I am very fortunate in that, like all Bernie supporters, I know how to think Zorra Mar 2016 #11
Endorsements aren't persuasive for me. Never have been, never will Arazi Mar 2016 #12
Endorsements are meaningless to WestSeattle2 Mar 2016 #13
I will vote. I always do. However I reserve the right to leave selections blank. CentralMass Mar 2016 #14
+1 vi5 Mar 2016 #17
I'm with you - I always vote dem in texas Mar 2016 #43
Yes. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #15
Of Course LeFleur1 Mar 2016 #19
I vote Democratic lapfog_1 Mar 2016 #18
I always like to think of its as voting for the greater good Nonhlanhla Mar 2016 #21
Nice try 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #20
It's easy for Hillary supporters to go over to Sanders... TCJ70 Mar 2016 #22
That distinction seems to be true marions ghost Mar 2016 #46
Yes. Agschmid Mar 2016 #23
I will vote for Clinton HassleCat Mar 2016 #24
I will vote my conscience and mine alone whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #25
There ya go. n/t Orsino Mar 2016 #26
Of course. MynameisBlarney Mar 2016 #27
+ 1000 RealAmericanDem Mar 2016 #39
The Democratic candidate has my vote regardles of which one it is. drm604 Mar 2016 #28
You're adorable tkmorris Mar 2016 #29
I vote with my own heart and mind, not with someone else's. Endorsements are irrelevant. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #30
I will vote for the Democratic nominee. I decide on my own, not through endorsements still_one Mar 2016 #31
Hell Yeah! Corey_Baker08 Mar 2016 #33
Voting for our nominee! grossproffit Mar 2016 #34
I`ll vote in November democrank Mar 2016 #35
Yep. ^^This^^ GoneFishin Mar 2016 #37
No commitment for Hillary. I will vote for congressional and local candidates. Impedimentus Mar 2016 #36
Yet another loyalty oath/bait the Bernie Supporters thread! Lost count: Does this make 4,0682? merrily Mar 2016 #38
I'm confused. My post is equally applicable to Hillary and Bernie supporters. Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #44
uh huh. It's sheer coincidence that this type of thread proliferates when Hillary's numbers merrily Mar 2016 #45
I don't set much store by "numbers and projections". Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #57
+1 RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #83
Of course eom rjsquirrel Mar 2016 #41
Yep JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #42
Yes, provided my preferred candidate endorses the Dem nominee. nt Chichiri Mar 2016 #47
Yes. Bettie Mar 2016 #48
Not even with a gun to my head. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #49
Of course. Codeine Mar 2016 #50
Why is it always Hillary voters who ask this? Gregorian Mar 2016 #51
IMHO, the Hillary republicans want a purge of DU. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #65
If she gets the nomination, the loyalty tests around here will begin within minutes. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #74
Unless I am dead, I will vote in November for the Democratic Nominee. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #52
I'll vote D no matter who wins metroins Mar 2016 #53
Yes! I am a Democrat and have no desire to see a Republican in any office. n/t michaz Mar 2016 #54
I'm going to sulk, sit home, and protest by allowing Trump or some similar right winger to win. Hoyt Mar 2016 #55
yes, and I'll be voting for a woman... mike_c Mar 2016 #56
Another Hillary supporter asking the same question again. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #58
I will vote Svafa Mar 2016 #59
Hillary fans say they dont need bernie supporters. Logical Mar 2016 #60
Firmly supporting your allegations with little but the zeal of the faithful and passionate. LanternWaste Mar 2016 #67
Hey, my thesaurus loving stalker! I have missed your ramblings! Nt Logical Mar 2016 #71
You should bookmark this post when the DNC/DLC/HRC blame the voters for not showing up Android3.14 Mar 2016 #61
I don't know. I honestly don't. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #62
I will be voting democratically. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #63
Ask again in July n/t Jon Ace Mar 2016 #64
I'll vote for my choice of candidates. I have the ability to think for myself. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #66
Yay! Loyalty oaths!! jeff47 Mar 2016 #68
This is a tough one for me since I'm against establishment politics and free trade. MrsKirkley Mar 2016 #69
oh goody, another loyalty oath. restorefreedom Mar 2016 #70
If you're looking for confirmation of blind allegiance casperthegm Mar 2016 #72
I'm not swayed one way or the other by endorsements. Contrary1 Mar 2016 #73
Yep, can't wait ghostsinthemachine Mar 2016 #76
Yes One of the 99 Mar 2016 #78
I will vote for the person that best represents my interests WDIM Mar 2016 #79
the question isn't on who you support.... beachbum bob Mar 2016 #80
Absolutely without question. hamsterjill Mar 2016 #81
Only a mad person would throw away their vote. longship Mar 2016 #82
HELL YES!! heaven05 Mar 2016 #85
Certainly, ... salinsky Mar 2016 #86
We'll see how it plays out, now won't we? Depaysement Mar 2016 #87
No. I expect to vote against the Republicans. Vinca Mar 2016 #90
I'll vote for the Dem candidate regardless of who it is. intheozone Mar 2016 #91
I respect Sanders a lot, but I don't agree with him on every issue. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #92

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
1. Yes, of course, but
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:55 PM
Mar 2016

I will vote for the Democratic candidate whether the other primary candidate endorses or not. I am a Democrat. I vote for Democrats for all offices.

blm

(113,039 posts)
32. Bernie's policy list is more in line with Dem policies than with GOP/ALEC policies.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:16 PM
Mar 2016

Your mileage may vary greatly with Sanders and also with my fellow Sanders supporters in the long run.

blm

(113,039 posts)
84. Good, that will be a big help during Supreme Court nominations….
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:02 PM
Mar 2016

….to no one but the vote suppressors, the homophobes, the religious fanatics, the privatization profiteers, the racists, the global fascists, et al.

blm

(113,039 posts)
93. I support Sanders. I also comprehend math.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

And I don't believe in the stupidity of your position to not vote for the Dem nominee. Yours is the Ayn Rand solution - do what feels good for you even if millions of others will be hurt by it.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
4. No doubt about it.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:56 PM
Mar 2016

And at this point in time I think people should be able to answer this honestly without repercussion from DU. I reserve the right to call them an ass.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
10. I intend to vote for the candidate who, in my opinion, will do the most for me
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:58 PM
Mar 2016

And I have never based my vote on what somebody tells me I should do.

All endorsements are bullshit as far as I'm concerned.

Do you need somebody to tell you how to vote? That's pretty sad.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
11. I am very fortunate in that, like all Bernie supporters, I know how to think
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:59 PM
Mar 2016

for myself, and don't need to rely on anyone else to tell me what to do.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
12. Endorsements aren't persuasive for me. Never have been, never will
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:59 PM
Mar 2016

I think for myself. Personally I think anyone who votes based on endorsements is foolish

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
17. +1
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:01 PM
Mar 2016

Down ticket races are just as important as President.

If we had been focusing on our back bench more we wouldn't be in this shitty position right now.

dem in texas

(2,673 posts)
43. I'm with you - I always vote
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

If the Democratic candidate is a crook or a girl-friend/wife beater, I will leave that slot blank, otherwise I vote Democrat on everything and in every election, no matter how minor.

Now I will get my box and have my say. When I was 21, married with two young children and very poor, I had to save from grocery money in order to be able to pay the poll tax so I could vote for the first time. It was a thrill for me when I cast my first vote, I think it was in 1962 Anyway, I always vote and serve on jury duty when called. These two rights are so important and you as a voter need to keep that in mind.

I am a history lover and always get a thrill reading about the American revolution and how those so called radicals stood up to the Brits, who viewed the 13 colonies as their cash cow. Also remember all the people who have fought and given their lives to protect our country and our rights. That should be enough to make you want to get in your car and drive to the polls to cast your vote, even if you are not happy with the candidate..

Hope you have early voting like we do here in Texas, it is the next best thing to sliced bread!

LeFleur1

(1,197 posts)
19. Of Course
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:06 PM
Mar 2016

I am a Democrat and unless the Democrat is far far away from the tenants of the Party, I will vote Democrat. If they were to run someone totally outside the party plans and ideas,party platform, or a bigot, or someone who appears to undermine the Constitution, or the country, then I would not vote for that Democrat.

If Donald Trump were running on the Democratic ticket I would not vote for him. But I might try to start a write in campaign naming a TRUE democrat to beat him. It would be a lot easier task today with the internet. Frankly, I don't understand why the Republicans have not done that after examining the talking points of their dim candidates.

lapfog_1

(29,198 posts)
18. I vote Democratic
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:01 PM
Mar 2016

That said, my motives matter to me...

If my now preferred candidate is nominated, I am voting FOR them, if the other candidate wins, I am voting AGAINST the republican candidate as the lesser of two evils.

Why does this matter? Because I won't be sending money to the lesser of two evils... I won't be calling anyone to ask for them to support the nominee, I won't be telling my friends that they should vote for the Democrat.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
21. I always like to think of its as voting for the greater good
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:08 PM
Mar 2016

rather than the lesser evil, i.e., for the sake of others. Feels less negative that way.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
22. It's easy for Hillary supporters to go over to Sanders...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:09 PM
Mar 2016

...should he win. They have nothing to lose. All of his policies are further left than hers, and his position on foreign policy is "lead with strength, not force" which most agree with.

Sanders supporters have it rougher should Clinton be the nominee and much to lose. Even if Bernie were to endorse Hillary, which I think he would given who he is, I would have a hard time with it and it isn't getting easier as the days go by.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
46. That distinction seems to be true
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:29 PM
Mar 2016

HARD for Bernie supporters to imagine voting for Clinton..."and it isn't getting any easier as the days go by..." ditto on that.

I would feel sick at having to vote for Clinton. I don't hate her as a person--she did what she had to do in a sick corrupted system. She's as flawed as the system. If not Hillary, it would be someone else like her we'd be asked to support. All the "good things" she has done don't make up for her record on the issues that matter to me.

There are a lot of days left to see what happens.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
24. I will vote for Clinton
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:10 PM
Mar 2016

I'm assuming the conventional wisdom regarding today is correct, and Sanders will be out of it by tomorrow. I'm also assuming Clinton will run a little to the right, but not too far. I will not vote for a Democrat who caves in to the right wing and chases their votes all over the political landscape. So my vote is Hillary's to lose. She has it right now.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
25. I will vote my conscience and mine alone
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:10 PM
Mar 2016

All other considerations, endorsements and rationales are immaterial.

democrank

(11,092 posts)
35. I`ll vote in November
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:18 PM
Mar 2016

but as a matter of conscience, not for anyone who voted for the Iraq War or who supports the death penalty.

Impedimentus

(898 posts)
36. No commitment for Hillary. I will vote for congressional and local candidates.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:20 PM
Mar 2016

Don't know. It will take a lot of convincing. I didn't like Clinton in 2008 and I like her a lot less now. if the American public needs a good kick in the teeth to see how the corporatist shill candidates in both parties have played them, so be it.

Most endorsements aren't worth 2¢ to me.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
38. Yet another loyalty oath/bait the Bernie Supporters thread! Lost count: Does this make 4,0682?
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:20 PM
Mar 2016

I will say this much, Senator Joe: I have never voted for President based upon an endorsement and I very much doubt I ever will. I find both amusing and bemusing the suggestion that, because I want someone to be President, I also want him to direct any aspect of my life. I'm not a Stepford sheeple.

Pardon me if I don't thank you for asking.



Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
44. I'm confused. My post is equally applicable to Hillary and Bernie supporters.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

Should Hillary not get the nomination, I expect to vote for the person she endorses for November. Your hostility confuses me.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
45. uh huh. It's sheer coincidence that this type of thread proliferates when Hillary's numbers
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:27 PM
Mar 2016

and/or projections spike. Also sheer coincidence that no one posts them but Hillary's supporters (unless a Bernie supporter is mirroring).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511381332

Mine wasn't the first post of its kind on this thread. Those who posted before me didn't confuse you?

BTW, don't conflate exposing or humor or mocking with hostility.

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
48. Yes.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:30 PM
Mar 2016

Though, to be honest, there have been several Clinton people right here on DU who have said that Sanders supporters are neither needed nor wanted.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
49. Not even with a gun to my head.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:32 PM
Mar 2016

I acknowledge that my candidate can make mistakes...and endorsing a corporatist would be one of them. If we were on speaking terms, I'd chide him for "going along to get along" and move on.

But Hillary remains what she is: a neoliberal with no honest commitment to my key progressive issues. My state's not remotely in play, so I have the luxury of not caring one bit if she's the slightly-less-shitty choice. My GE choice is rendered irrelevant by the Electoral College. I'll vote (or not vote, in terms of the presidential slot) as my conscience dictates.

But the primary isn't over. Despite the huge momentum advantage of all these early conservative state primaries, Hillary hasn't won yet.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
50. Of course.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:34 PM
Mar 2016

It's what I always do because I always back a loser in the primaries. For once my preferred horse is leading. Quite confusing.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
65. IMHO, the Hillary republicans want a purge of DU.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:54 PM
Mar 2016

And in pure Ari Fleisure mode take down what is said now.
 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
74. If she gets the nomination, the loyalty tests around here will begin within minutes.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:48 PM
Mar 2016

I doubt I'll bother to hang around to witness (and probably earn my own tombstone). The Hillary cabal will be making sure this is no longer a progressive-friendly site.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
52. Unless I am dead, I will vote in November for the Democratic Nominee.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:36 PM
Mar 2016

This is not a loyalty oath.

It is enlightened self interest.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
53. I'll vote D no matter who wins
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:37 PM
Mar 2016

I mean, I think Trump is fun and all but I don't want a crazy person at the helm.

He reminds me of Kim Jung Un.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
56. yes, and I'll be voting for a woman...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:39 PM
Mar 2016

...presuming that Dr. Jill Stein is on the ballot in California, where I live.

Svafa

(594 posts)
59. I will vote
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:41 PM
Mar 2016

for congressional and local candidates. I am currently weighing my options on how I will vote with respect to the presidential candidates.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
67. Firmly supporting your allegations with little but the zeal of the faithful and passionate.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:04 PM
Mar 2016

Firmly supporting your allegations with little but the zeal of the faithful and passionate.


(I'm using words as simplistic as possible to prevent any further child-like emails from you written in truncated petulance... oops-- which one got you this time? 'Truncated' or 'petulance'?)

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
61. You should bookmark this post when the DNC/DLC/HRC blame the voters for not showing up
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:42 PM
Mar 2016

But while you will be blaming voters, the rest of us will be blaming Hillary's supporters who browbeat the soul out of the Democratic Party.

Here is your slogan.

Vote Hillary. She's not a Republican (anymore).

Gee, what an inspiring campaign.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
62. I don't know. I honestly don't.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:47 PM
Mar 2016

My gut instinct is at war with the part of me that screams to sell out because it's slim margins better than Trump. All that is great for lyric writing, but my gut instinct keeps screaming to go down fighting, or what's the point?

I'm too fucking young for existential crises.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
66. I'll vote for my choice of candidates. I have the ability to think for myself.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:02 PM
Mar 2016

If Hillary wins the nomination and Bernie endorses her, I'll respect his opinion, consider it, and then vote for the most progressive candidate on my ballot.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
68. Yay! Loyalty oaths!!
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:21 PM
Mar 2016
If you respect someone enough that they are your preferred candidate, I would think that their endorsement would carry a lot of weight with you.

I vote based on policy. Not on what other people say about a candidate.

MrsKirkley

(180 posts)
69. This is a tough one for me since I'm against establishment politics and free trade.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:50 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie Sanders wants to expand Medicare, which would get rid of those high deductibles many low income full time workers can't afford. Remember, cost sharing subsidies that lower deductibles aren't available to low income full time workers because they are offered health insurance through their employers. Deductibles of employer provided health insurance are NOT income based, yet being offered health insurance through an employer makes workers ineligible for subsidies. Deductibles aren't even a factor in the affordability test. Bernie Sanders is also against free trade deals that send jobs overseas and destroy the US economy. If Bernie Sanders doesn't win, I have to choose between not voting (which will help Trump), and voting for someone who will keep a health care law that does little to help low income full time workers. At least the law makes denials over pre-existing conditions illegal. Because I don't want to see the return of pre-existing conditions, I will vote for Hillary Clinton if Bernie Sanders doesn't win. I like Hillary Clinton, but I wish she wanted to expand Medicare and get us out of these free trade agreements.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
72. If you're looking for confirmation of blind allegiance
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:45 PM
Mar 2016

to the party then you're going to end up disappointed. My ideals align themselves strongly with the democratic party. That said, we had a democratic congressman down here in NC a number of years ago who faced possible indictment and had a poor voting record. Should I have been expected to vote for him?

He was later indicted and went to jail btw.

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
73. I'm not swayed one way or the other by endorsements.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:47 PM
Mar 2016

I don't need some politician, multi- millionaire, or Hollywood big name to tell me what is in my best interest.

Yes, I will be voting in November, regardless of who is the candidate.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
80. the question isn't on who you support....
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:59 PM
Mar 2016

the question will be, do you want a trump (or any conservative) sitting in the whitehouse with his finger sitting "on the button".....? America would be so very different today if nader supporters cared more for their country, then their own "self-interest"....8 yrs of bush/cheney was brought to america because of that selfish "voting my principles" bullcrap

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
81. Absolutely without question.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:00 PM
Mar 2016

I'll be voting, and I'll be voting for the Democratic candidate.

Anything less that that is simply not acceptable for discussion on this board.

longship

(40,416 posts)
82. Only a mad person would throw away their vote.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:00 PM
Mar 2016

Or somebody who thinks it is all about them and not the best thing for the country no matter if one does not gets ones way.

Politics is, and always has been about compromise.

In the meantime, I am going to vote for Bernie in the MI primary next Tuesday and will unhesitatingly vote for the November Democratic Party nominee.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
86. Certainly, ...
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:04 PM
Mar 2016

... and, I will vote for the Democratic candidate whoever he or she may be.

The choices are too stark and the consequences too dire to anything else.

Vinca

(50,253 posts)
90. No. I expect to vote against the Republicans.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:07 PM
Mar 2016

The thought of voting for Hillary almost makes me physically ill, but if it has to be done to save the country from Trump, it has to be done.

intheozone

(1,102 posts)
91. I'll vote for the Dem candidate regardless of who it is.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:07 PM
Mar 2016

Not voting for the Dem is equal to voting for the Republican and I could not do that. No person in their right mind should do that.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
92. I respect Sanders a lot, but I don't agree with him on every issue.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:08 PM
Mar 2016

For instance, he seems to like Clinton a lot better than I do.

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