Keep this information in perspective as you learn the primary results:

[JDPriestly]

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Last time these states voted for a Democrat in a presidential elect was 1964:

Idaho
Kansas
Montana
Nebraska
North Dakota
Oklahoma
Utah
Wyoming


Last time these states voted for a Democrat in a presidential elect was 1976:

Alabama
Mississippi
Missouri
S. Carolina
S. Dakota


Last time these states voted for a Democrat in a presidential elect was 1992:

Georgia


Last time these states voted for a Democrat in a presidential elect was 1996 (20 years ago):

Arkansas
Arizona
Kentucky
Louisiana
Tennessee
W. Virginia

We are not going to win in November if we make a big deal of the outcomes in those states. And many of those states vote early in the season.

Keep in mind that 1996 is 20 years ago.

On edit and after corrections from DUers for which I am grateful, I took N. Carolina off this list. They voted for Obama in 2008.

Thanks to the DUers who pointed this mistake out.

I have a list and wrote 2008 for N. Carolina as well as 1976 as the most recent previous election in which N. Carolina voted for a Democratic president, but when I posted this, I could not read my own handwriting. I have a bit of a tremor so this happens to me -- that I cannot read my own writing. My tremor is familial and intentional, not Parkinsons.

Thanks.

Keep this in mind as results come in.

Note that Virginia is not on this list. They have become swing state voters.

[PyaarRevolution]

1. But Bernie with the nom.

Has a real chance of winning Alabama, Mississippi and Kansas. I'm a native Kansan and think Bernie can definitely win.

[GoneFishin]

2. The bigger deal that is made out of red states going to not Bernie, the more money I'll send

to his campaign.

[JDPriestly]

4. Good.

[Blue_In_AK]

3. Include Alaska in that first category,

but there is a lot of enthusiasm for Bernie here. Hillary will undoubtedly lose.

[amborin]

5. exactly, and more here:

This gives a right-leaning (charitable, here) candidate an edge over a more liberal candidate.

And gives them an edge in the overall outcome;

(thanks to hifiguy, who articulated this insight in a different OP! and to Octafish, whose OP, Super Tuesday Whistles Dixie, focuses on this)

[DemocraticWing]

6. Bernie can't win the nomination without the first batch of states you mentioned.

This talking point shoots our own campaign in the foot.

[BumRushDaShow]

7. "Last time these states voted for a Democrat in a presidential elect was 1976"

Alabama
Mississippi
Missouri
N. Carolina
S. Carolina
S. Dakota

Try N. Carolina for Obama in 2008.

[obamanut2012]

8. NC voted for Obama in 2008

Close in 2010.

Regardless of that, what does your OP have to do with the primaries? Nothing.

[JDPriestly]

13. We in California and most other liberal states don't get to vote until after the rednecks

in the South have their say.

I want Bernie supporters and others to keep that in mind.

You can't win presidential elections if you put weight on who people in Kansas and Idaho and states that have not voted for a Democratic president since 1964 want as the nominee. This is especially true for South Carolina, the state that started the Civil War and that was still flying the Confederate flag until recently.

Most of these early southern states are not really relevant to the Democratic candidate in November.

Should we campaign there? Do I support the 50-state strategy? Yes.

But let's don't choose our candidate based on how they vote in the primary because they are conservative states and will never support a real Democrat.

Feel the Bern!

[JaneyVee]

15. Can you please not call them rednecks.

Its kind of derogatory.

[Codeine]

9. Whatever gets you through the rough night. nt

[Starry Messenger]

10. And how does this apply to the Republican outcomes of states tonight?

This is the primaries, all the states get a say in picking their party candidate.

[Kaleva]

11. If this was the GE, that'd be relevant info.

[RiverLover]

12. fyi North Carolina went to Obama in 2008

I'm very proud of that.

[JDPriestly]

14. Right. I misread my notes. I wrote the years down on a piece of paper and could not

read my handwriting.

I will change my post.

[Dem2]

16. Thanks

That jumped off the page at me. I never forget when a red state tilts blue.

[loyalsister]

17. Missouri was 1996

It broke a long streak of being a bell weather state in 2008. Or, arguably 2000 since it went for Bush.