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CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:53 AM Mar 2016

Hillary Clinton fundraiser with NRA and Goldman Sachs lobbyists

Just reported on CNN by Jake Tapper. He said, "I asked John Podesta why Hillary Clinton is holding a fundraiser with lobbyists for the NRA and Goldman Sachs. His response was that 'We have to. Bernie is raising a lot of money.'"

Bernie Sanders, is it an honor to support an honest politician who, in February, raised $42 million dollars from "We The People".

I am so proud of Bernie Sanders; his principles, his important messages, his rock-solid integrity and his ability to fuel a competitive, national campaign with dollars from real people.



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Hillary Clinton fundraiser with NRA and Goldman Sachs lobbyists (Original Post) CoffeeCat Mar 2016 OP
Did Podesta really say that? Avalux Mar 2016 #1
I couldn't believe what I was hearing... CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #7
Do you think she'll stop trying to frame Bernie as a gun humper? hedda_foil Mar 2016 #11
No. She's shameless. It will continue CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #13
The Clinton campaign, SHHHS is a big open secret nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #42
It is in my buffer. Yep, he said exactly that. kristopher Mar 2016 #43
Wow. And how dishonest is Podesta? What about Hillary's PAC, awash in millions? merrily Mar 2016 #2
He actually said that? Punkingal Mar 2016 #3
Oh. It's Bernie's fault. cyberswede Mar 2016 #4
Democrats vs the NRA Lobbyists Kittycat Mar 2016 #5
Hillary is so progressive on gun control!! EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #6
She would most likely be out of money if it wasn't CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #9
so blatant and so disgusting; it's beyond shameless amborin Mar 2016 #8
Honestly I don't blame low info voters kcjohn1 Mar 2016 #10
The "low info" voters in this case would be those who read an anonymous BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #29
LOL! Oilwellian Mar 2016 #12
A pivot to the Right. Pretty much what every Sanders voter said was going to happen. That Guy 888 Mar 2016 #54
The Clinton Camp is going to LOVE guns now. arcane1 Mar 2016 #64
What does "NRA Lobbyists" mean? Recursion Mar 2016 #14
Yes, but in this case it is not "in the past". (nt) jeff47 Mar 2016 #16
All I know is the scant information that Jake Tapper reported CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #19
OMFG hilarious: it's Purple Strategies, who have also lobbied against the NRA Recursion Mar 2016 #21
So, Purple Strategies is the group that is hosting/participating CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #24
No, you were right, Forbes Tate. The PS one was a few months ago Recursion Mar 2016 #35
But according to this article, Forbes has lobbied for the NRA since 2006. CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #39
Yes, for a different firm than Forbes-Tate (nt) Recursion Mar 2016 #40
Perfect match then for Madame Weathervane. Bohunk68 Mar 2016 #62
Currently...past present future. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #20
You're killing me. Purple Strategies has lobbied both for and against the NRA Recursion Mar 2016 #22
Looks like a perfect match for Clinton then. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #27
MORE INFO: Lobbying firm is Forbes-Tate (John Forbes and Podesta are co-hosting this fundraiser) CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #30
Cool, thanks! Looking again the Purple Strategies one was in January Recursion Mar 2016 #34
Another co-host is Steve Elmendorf, Autumn Mar 2016 #45
Thank you for that Autumn! A lobbyist for the US Columbian Free Trade Agreement CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #46
With all the constant attacks Hillary has been throwing at Bernie for his vote on guns ~ jillan Mar 2016 #15
I'm sure her supporters have no problem with an NRA lobbyist hosting a fundraiser. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #17
Wake up, AMERICA!! AzDar Mar 2016 #18
A Hillary fundraiser with the NRA? Fuck all that. I am so saving this Autumn Mar 2016 #23
Except it wasn't with the NRA, or even a lobbyist for the NRA Recursion Mar 2016 #37
The last quarter of 2015 certainly does qualify as 'at one point in the past' Autumn Mar 2016 #41
Just so we're clear, John Forbes lobbied has for the NRA since 2009 CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #44
Well, bringing them to our side is what I call it. If Bernie can change to Democrat why can't other Jitter65 Mar 2016 #65
Hillary courts NRA lobby for cash because Bernie raises too much money from the people think Mar 2016 #25
Not exactly. It wasn't a fundraiser "for" lobbyists or the NRA. There was a person BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #26
No, as I said--Tapper said this was a fundraiser FOR Hillary CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #38
Sanders campaign should put that in an ad. Kall Mar 2016 #28
Hillary supporters must be so very proud. n/t TDale313 Mar 2016 #31
They Don't Care. zentrum Mar 2016 #48
STOP IT!!! Just stop the right-wing smears you guys!!! revbones Mar 2016 #32
the truth is not right wing smears, it just seems that way because your candidate is that bad litlbilly Mar 2016 #61
Sorry if it wasn't obvious. I was being sarcastic. revbones Mar 2016 #63
Good for Hillary.... FarPoint Mar 2016 #33
What I'm not seeing is when Forbes-Tate took NRA money, can you help? Recursion Mar 2016 #36
Wonder if her zentrum Mar 2016 #47
I wonder if she took Gabby Giffords along to that fundraiser. Gene Debs Mar 2016 #50
She's gotta award some Super Delegate slots... nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #49
So now her supporters will be attacking Bernie for not being friendly jfern Mar 2016 #51
Bernie obviously doesn't know how to work across the aisle! JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #55
Maybe they'll attack Bernie for flip flopping on guns jfern Mar 2016 #58
Corrupt To The Core cantbeserious Mar 2016 #52
Is their money not green ? Nobel_Twaddle_III Mar 2016 #53
Ugh...she's a real gem. SoapBox Mar 2016 #56
K&R! dchill Mar 2016 #57
CNN link - Podesta looks worried That Guy 888 Mar 2016 #59
Campaign finance -- cleaning it up is the biggest issue of this campaign. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #60
K&R Babel_17 Mar 2016 #66

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
7. I couldn't believe what I was hearing...
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:59 AM
Mar 2016

...and yes, he said it.

Jake Tapper said exactly what I wrote. My husband and I both heard it, we turned to each other and both shook our heads.

I couldn't believe it when he said the NRA! I mean, we know she's purchased by Goldman Sachs, but the NRA?

I don't quite understand the dynamics there. I guess they're going to be working her over--and giving her money.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
13. No. She's shameless. It will continue
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:10 AM
Mar 2016

and when Bernie calls her out on her fundraiser that was populated by NRA lobbyists, she will scream something about 9/11.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
42. The Clinton campaign, SHHHS is a big open secret
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:00 AM
Mar 2016

is running out of money, The LA Times reported that two weeks ago.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
43. It is in my buffer. Yep, he said exactly that.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:01 AM
Mar 2016

Discussion lasted about 3 minutes and started at 11:36EST.

The tone has changed also. They do not see Hillary as inevitable and I get the idea that our funding efforts are making them sit up and take notice that Bernie is no more subject to control by the DNC money machine than Trump is to the RNC's.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. Wow. And how dishonest is Podesta? What about Hillary's PAC, awash in millions?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:56 AM
Mar 2016

Then again, why expect Podesta to be honest?

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
9. She would most likely be out of money if it wasn't
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:01 AM
Mar 2016

for these fundraisers with Wall Street and other powerful corporate interests. And I guess we can add NRA lobbyists and Goldman lobbyists to the shame pile.

I hope the media continues to report on this fundraiser. It must be coming up soon.

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
10. Honestly I don't blame low info voters
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:03 AM
Mar 2016

Most don't even hear about this.

But its mind boggling that we have Clinton supporters on this board and other liberal outlets when we hear stories like this from the Clinton camp everyday. I have voted for the lesser devil many times, but this must take the cake. It was only a month ago she was telling us the most important thing was gun control, and how D- rated Bernie Sanders would be able to stand up to the NRA, and now she is raising funds from NRA lobbyists.

I don't get it. I don't even think GOP is this blatant.

BreakfastClub

(765 posts)
29. The "low info" voters in this case would be those who read an anonymous
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:34 AM
Mar 2016

web posting and take it as a fact without doing one second of research. Talk about low info!!

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
54. A pivot to the Right. Pretty much what every Sanders voter said was going to happen.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:11 AM
Mar 2016

When her campaign "went national".

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
64. The Clinton Camp is going to LOVE guns now.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:38 PM
Mar 2016

Next meme: "Sanders only gets a D rating from the NRA! Vote for gun-loving Clinton instead!!!"


And they will somehow do it with a straight face

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
14. What does "NRA Lobbyists" mean?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:11 AM
Mar 2016

Does it mean professional lobbyists who have at some point in the past taken the NRA as clients?

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
19. All I know is the scant information that Jake Tapper reported
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:20 AM
Mar 2016

but I imagine that the NRA has a cache of in-house lobbyists who work specifically for them.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
21. OMFG hilarious: it's Purple Strategies, who have also lobbied against the NRA
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:22 AM
Mar 2016

They have lobbied both for NRA and Everytown, which is a gun-control advocacy group.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
24. So, Purple Strategies is the group that is hosting/participating
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:26 AM
Mar 2016

in this HRC fund raiser?

Tapper said that these were specifically "NRA lobbyists".

Would love more info if you found some.

I'll look too. To the Google!

I love your avatar btw--Mondrian.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
35. No, you were right, Forbes Tate. The PS one was a few months ago
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:42 AM
Mar 2016

Forbes-Tate seems to mostly represent telecom companies, along with some pro-choice groups.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
39. But according to this article, Forbes has lobbied for the NRA since 2006.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:56 AM
Mar 2016

And on his own lobbying disclosure, "Forbes wrote that he was signed up to lobby for “Issues related to 2nd Amendment rights, regulation and gun control, and tax and appropriations related to same; issues related to corporate tax reform.”"

So, Forbes--the guy co-hosting the HRC fundraiser with Podesta has many years under his belt, lobbying for the NRA. He specialized in 2nd Amendment rights.

Jake Tapper, when he reported this on CNN--obviously knew that Forbes as an NRA lobbyist.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
20. Currently...past present future.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:21 AM
Mar 2016

But I'm sure her supporters don't have a problem with an NRA lobbyist bundling funds for her.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
22. You're killing me. Purple Strategies has lobbied both for and against the NRA
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:23 AM
Mar 2016

Because like about 99% of lobbyists they'll lobby for whoever is paying them to lobby.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
30. MORE INFO: Lobbying firm is Forbes-Tate (John Forbes and Podesta are co-hosting this fundraiser)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:34 AM
Mar 2016

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has called her support for gun control laws a key differentiator from her opponent Bernie Sanders, who she claims isn’t tough enough on the industry. But in mid-March, a Clinton campaign fundraiser will be co-hosted by a lobbyist whose clients have included the National Rifle Association (NRA).

As David Sirota reported Monday in the International Business Times, Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta is a co-host and the guest of honor at a fundraising lunch in the nation’s capital on March 21.

One of the other co-hosts is Jeff Forbes of the lobbying firm Forbes-Tate.

Forbes has represented the NRA since 2009 and as of the last quarter of 2015 was still registered to lobby for the organization. On his lobbying disclosure, Forbes wrote that he was signed up to lobby for “Issues related to 2nd Amendment rights, regulation and gun control, and tax and appropriations related to same; issues related to corporate tax reform.” [Update at 4:41 p.m. ET: Jennifer Baker, director of public affairs for the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action, emails us to say that “Jeff Forbes is no longer an NRA consultant.”]

https://theintercept.com/2016/03/01/nra-lobbyist-will-co-host-clinton-fundraiser/

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
34. Cool, thanks! Looking again the Purple Strategies one was in January
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:38 AM
Mar 2016

On the plus side, Forbes Tate represents one union. On the minus side, it's the NFL Players' Association

Autumn

(45,026 posts)
45. Another co-host is Steve Elmendorf,
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:04 AM
Mar 2016

who has lobbied for Goldman Sachs and the U.S.-Colombian Free Trade Agreement.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
46. Thank you for that Autumn! A lobbyist for the US Columbian Free Trade Agreement
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:10 AM
Mar 2016

That is most certainly relevant!

Great find.

Depressing...but it's important.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
15. With all the constant attacks Hillary has been throwing at Bernie for his vote on guns ~
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:13 AM
Mar 2016

she does this.

Ha! WTF is she thinking. I hope Bernie mentions this at every rally from now on.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
17. I'm sure her supporters have no problem with an NRA lobbyist hosting a fundraiser.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:18 AM
Mar 2016

Their poutrage shifts with her weathervane.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
37. Except it wasn't with the NRA, or even a lobbyist for the NRA
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:45 AM
Mar 2016

But rather a lobbyist that at one point in the past did some work for the NRA while at a different firm.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
44. Just so we're clear, John Forbes lobbied has for the NRA since 2009
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:03 AM
Mar 2016

Last edited Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:26 AM - Edit history (1)

John Forbes owns the lobbying firm. It's his firm. His firm (and John Forbes) has represented the NRA since 2009.

https://theintercept.com/2016/03/01/nra-lobbyist-will-co-host-clinton-fundraiser/

Forbes has represented the NRA since 2009 and as of the last quarter of 2015 was still registered to lobby for the organization. On his lobbying disclosure, Forbes wrote that he was signed up to lobby for “Issues related to 2nd Amendment rights, regulation and gun control, and tax and appropriations related to same; issues related to corporate tax reform.”

Jake Tapper spoke to John Podesta about this conflict of interest, and Podesta didn't deny that the co-host of Hillary's upcoming fundraiser was an NRA lobbyist.

Podesta deflected and spoke about Hillary's strong record on gun control.

I think we can put this issue to bed. This man has been an NRA lobbyist since 2009. Podesta never contested that point in the CNN interview.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
65. Well, bringing them to our side is what I call it. If Bernie can change to Democrat why can't other
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:58 PM
Mar 2016

change their positions too? And why can't Hillary use those funds to win her campaign and get into position to help bring about effective gun control?

BreakfastClub

(765 posts)
26. Not exactly. It wasn't a fundraiser "for" lobbyists or the NRA. There was a person
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:31 AM
Mar 2016

present at the fundraiser, however, who worked as a gun lobbyist at one time but no longer does and hasn't in quite a while. So this story is a little misleading.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
38. No, as I said--Tapper said this was a fundraiser FOR Hillary
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:47 AM
Mar 2016

put on by lobbyists for the NRA and for Goldman Sachs.

According to what I just read, there will be a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton in mid-March. Podesta and Jeff Forbes are co-hosting this fundraiser.

According to this article, "Forbes has represented the NRA since 2009 and as of the last quarter of 2015 was still registered to lobby for the organization. On his lobbying disclosure, Forbes wrote that he was signed up to lobby for “Issues related to 2nd Amendment rights, regulation and gun control, and tax and appropriations related to same; issues related to corporate tax reform.”

Clearly, this man has worked as an NRA advocate/lobbyist for several years.

The article was updated this afternoon by the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action to say that Forbes is no longer an NRA consultant. However, when Tapper interviewed Podesta and called out Forbes ties to the NRA as a lobbyist, Podesta never disputed that Forbes was an NRA lobbyist.

That happened later. Seems like this guy's history is being re-written because it looks bad.

--------------------------------
https://theintercept.com/2016/03/01/nra-lobbyist-will-co-host-clinton-fundraiser/

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has called her support for gun control laws a key differentiator from her opponent Bernie Sanders, who she claims isn’t tough enough on the industry. But in mid-March, a Clinton campaign fundraiser will be co-hosted by a lobbyist whose clients have included the National Rifle Association (NRA).

As David Sirota reported Monday in the International Business Times, Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta is a co-host and the guest of honor at a fundraising lunch in the nation’s capital on March 21.

One of the other co-hosts is Jeff Forbes of the lobbying firm Forbes-Tate.

Forbes has represented the NRA since 2009 and as of the last quarter of 2015 was still registered to lobby for the organization. On his lobbying disclosure, Forbes wrote that he was signed up to lobby for “Issues related to 2nd Amendment rights, regulation and gun control, and tax and appropriations related to same; issues related to corporate tax reform.” [Update at 4:41 p.m. ET: Jennifer Baker, director of public affairs for the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action, emails us to say that “Jeff Forbes is no longer an NRA consultant.”]

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
48. They Don't Care.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:57 AM
Mar 2016

Confronted again and again with her record and behavior—they just don't care. Its really disheartening, but has explained so much to me, as I've watched it, why the Democratic Party is no longer recognizable as the one that was for working people against the Party of Big Business.



 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
63. Sorry if it wasn't obvious. I was being sarcastic.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:55 AM
Mar 2016

Probably should have put the "sarcasm" thing in the text. Hillary supporters tend to scream everything is a right-wing smear.

FarPoint

(12,309 posts)
33. Good for Hillary....
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:37 AM
Mar 2016

All campaigns require funding... It's the way it is today.... Street fighting is in play.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
47. Wonder if her
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:53 AM
Mar 2016

….gun critique always aimed at Bernie will now disappear from her script?

Such an empty, empty suit.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
51. So now her supporters will be attacking Bernie for not being friendly
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:08 AM
Mar 2016

enough with the NRA? The whiplash is going to be something!

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
55. Bernie obviously doesn't know how to work across the aisle!
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:12 AM
Mar 2016

Don't laugh, I bet we see this line about the NRA shortly.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
58. Maybe they'll attack Bernie for flip flopping on guns
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:30 AM
Mar 2016

Just change the Obama picture to a Bernie picture, should be good enough.


SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
56. Ugh...she's a real gem.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:12 AM
Mar 2016

She'll take money from ANYONE.

Camp Weathervane was shilling for money in Mexico City and Chels was panhandleing for pounds in London...both events were last month.

Bought and paid for by money, money, money.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
59. CNN link - Podesta looks worried
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:31 AM
Mar 2016
http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/03/01/clinton-campaign-john-podesta-live-the-lead.cnn/video/playlists/hillary-clinton/

1:31 Her campaign against a rigged economy? How better to do that than to get money from the lobbyist that represent those that rigged the economy to begin with.
1:55 Question about the fundraiser

Podesta claims "that person no longer works for the gun lobby". Should we doubt Podesta about the gun lobbyist no longer working for the gun lobby? No, there is nothing to base that on. As far as I know.


JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
60. Campaign finance -- cleaning it up is the biggest issue of this campaign.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:55 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie is proving that he can win the nomination without the help of the corporations and huge donations.

Feel the Bern!

Bernie won the important states tonight and lost Massachusetts by only one point.

Hillary won a lot of conservative, Republican states. Shows you what she is: a conservative, a Republican.

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