Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:08 AM
intrepidity (5,709 posts)
Sen. Patrick Leahy (VT) is a superdelegate
He has promised his support to HRC. He insists that no matter how his state votes, his support remains with HRC, because he promised it and he is keeping his word.
Is that a good thing? I'm very conflicted about this. Are superdelegates supposed to take into consideration what the rest of their state thinks, or do they just get to do whatever they want with their vote(s)? It doesn't seem right, to me. ![]()
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intrepidity | Mar 2016 | OP |
dchill | Mar 2016 | #1 | |
Segami | Mar 2016 | #2 | |
intrepidity | Mar 2016 | #3 | |
Nyan | Mar 2016 | #4 | |
intrepidity | Mar 2016 | #6 | |
HereSince1628 | Mar 2016 | #13 | |
earthshine | Mar 2016 | #5 | |
CentralMass | Mar 2016 | #7 | |
RiverLover | Mar 2016 | #8 | |
CentralMass | Mar 2016 | #10 | |
demwing | Mar 2016 | #9 | |
Zorra | Mar 2016 | #11 | |
Nye Bevan | Mar 2016 | #12 | |
lostnfound | Mar 2016 | #15 | |
Cheese Sandwich | Mar 2016 | #14 | |
MoonRiver | Mar 2016 | #16 |
Response to intrepidity (Original post)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:12 AM
dchill (34,721 posts)
1. Well, we KNOW HRC keeps HER promises...
Right?
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Response to intrepidity (Original post)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:14 AM
Segami (14,923 posts)
2. First of all,...who told him to make such a promise?
This is nothing more than old-school, political double-talk.........bullshit!
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Response to Segami (Reply #2)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:15 AM
intrepidity (5,709 posts)
3. I'm confused by what you mean n/t
Response to intrepidity (Original post)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:20 AM
Nyan (1,192 posts)
4. Vermont went overwhelmingly for Bernie.
He basically said he would go against the will of his constituents. What he's doing is antithetical to democracy. Vermonters should demand answers from him. It's as simple as that.
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Response to Nyan (Reply #4)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:32 AM
intrepidity (5,709 posts)
6. I hope they do.
And I hope he changes his mind.
This situation, in VT, is the perfect example of why superdelegates are an insane concept. |
Response to Nyan (Reply #4)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:09 AM
HereSince1628 (36,063 posts)
13. But super-delegates don't exist to support democracy
they exist to provide professional politicians super-influence within the democratic party.
And so they do. |
Response to intrepidity (Original post)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:21 AM
earthshine (1,642 posts)
5. More proof that the whole notion of superdelegates is an aspect of establishment corruption.
Even the Republican Party doesn't do this.
My understanding is Hillary extracted these promises from people even before she let the public know she was going to run. First, she got all her little duckies in a row. Dammit. I used to like this guy. People wonder why Elizabeth Warren has not endorsed. Look at what these endorsements do. One completely alienates the other half of the party. Wanna see what happens when a superdelegate makes a fool of himself ... 905 likes vs. 4714 dislikes on YouTube. |
Response to intrepidity (Original post)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 06:13 AM
CentralMass (14,506 posts)
7. Hey Pat, screw you and the money that bought you.
Your are part of the oroblem, not the solution
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Response to CentralMass (Reply #7)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 06:24 AM
RiverLover (7,830 posts)
8. +1
I never thought I'd be mad at Patrick Leahy. This whole thing has really shown the true (purchased) colors of the party, hasn't it?
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Response to RiverLover (Reply #8)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:06 AM
CentralMass (14,506 posts)
10. Yes, that appears to be the case.
Response to intrepidity (Original post)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 06:43 AM
demwing (16,916 posts)
9. Q. Why is Sen. Leahy a superdelegate?
A. Because the people of Vermont allowed him to represent them in DC.
You owe EVERYTHING to Vermont, Senator. Everything. |
Response to intrepidity (Original post)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:00 AM
Zorra (27,670 posts)
11. Maybe he thinks democracy is wrong. nt
Response to intrepidity (Original post)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:04 AM
Nye Bevan (25,406 posts)
12. Was Bernie aware of the Democratic Party rules about superdelegates
when he picked the Democratic Party to nail his colors to for his presidential run?
AFAIK the superdelegates can support whoever they like. |
Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #12)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:18 PM
lostnfound (15,500 posts)
15. This isn't about Bernie; it's about "we the people."
And if you're going to ask whether we the people were aware of these rules when we registered as Democrats (thirty five years ago, in my case), superdelegates didn't exist then.
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Response to intrepidity (Original post)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:41 AM
Cheese Sandwich (9,086 posts)
14. Super delegates will follow the regular delegates. If not the Democratic Party could literally end
Response to intrepidity (Original post)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:31 PM
MoonRiver (36,925 posts)
16. I'm sure Leahy is well aware of the rules.
If Vermonters don't like what he does, they can primary him. That's why we call this place a democracy!
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