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intrepidity

(7,294 posts)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 04:08 AM Mar 2016

Sen. Patrick Leahy (VT) is a superdelegate

He has promised his support to HRC. He insists that no matter how his state votes, his support remains with HRC, because he promised it and he is keeping his word.

Is that a good thing? I'm very conflicted about this. Are superdelegates supposed to take into consideration what the rest of their state thinks, or do they just get to do whatever they want with their vote(s)? It doesn't seem right, to me.

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Segami

(14,923 posts)
2. First of all,...who told him to make such a promise?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 04:14 AM
Mar 2016

This is nothing more than old-school, political double-talk.........bullshit!

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
4. Vermont went overwhelmingly for Bernie.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 04:20 AM
Mar 2016

He basically said he would go against the will of his constituents. What he's doing is antithetical to democracy. Vermonters should demand answers from him. It's as simple as that.

intrepidity

(7,294 posts)
6. I hope they do.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 04:32 AM
Mar 2016

And I hope he changes his mind.

This situation, in VT, is the perfect example of why superdelegates are an insane concept.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
13. But super-delegates don't exist to support democracy
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 09:09 AM
Mar 2016

they exist to provide professional politicians super-influence within the democratic party.

And so they do.

 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
5. More proof that the whole notion of superdelegates is an aspect of establishment corruption.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 04:21 AM
Mar 2016

Even the Republican Party doesn't do this.

My understanding is Hillary extracted these promises from people even before she let the public know she was going to run. First, she got all her little duckies in a row.

Dammit. I used to like this guy.

People wonder why Elizabeth Warren has not endorsed. Look at what these endorsements do. One completely alienates the other half of the party.

Wanna see what happens when a superdelegate makes a fool of himself ...



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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
8. +1
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:24 AM
Mar 2016

I never thought I'd be mad at Patrick Leahy. This whole thing has really shown the true (purchased) colors of the party, hasn't it?

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
9. Q. Why is Sen. Leahy a superdelegate?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:43 AM
Mar 2016

A. Because the people of Vermont allowed him to represent them in DC.

You owe EVERYTHING to Vermont, Senator. Everything.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
12. Was Bernie aware of the Democratic Party rules about superdelegates
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 09:04 AM
Mar 2016

when he picked the Democratic Party to nail his colors to for his presidential run?

AFAIK the superdelegates can support whoever they like.

lostnfound

(16,176 posts)
15. This isn't about Bernie; it's about "we the people."
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:18 PM
Mar 2016

And if you're going to ask whether we the people were aware of these rules when we registered as Democrats (thirty five years ago, in my case), superdelegates didn't exist then.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
16. I'm sure Leahy is well aware of the rules.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:31 PM
Mar 2016

If Vermonters don't like what he does, they can primary him. That's why we call this place a democracy!

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