all attempts to bring down or demoralize bernie supporters will FAIL

[restorefreedom]

Last edited Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:41 PM - Edit history (1)

bernie won unexpectedly BIG in Minnesota and colorado, and basically shut hillary out in vermont. he won well in oklahoma, and the difference in MA is 20,000 votes and 2 delegates in a state hillary won big in 2008. and that is despite bill clinton breaking campaign law and disrupting a polling place for several hours, disenfranchising who knows how many voters.

bernie raised a record setting 41 million dollars in feb (42 actually,thanks autumn! ) including 6 million in a single day. hillarys best states are behind her, while bernies are ahead.

he has the money, the message, and the mojo.

celebrate hillarys wins if you like, but all goalpost moving and fatalism will fail miserably, so you might just save your typing energy for other matters, if you wish.

have a bernie day!

[LexVegas]

1. Trying to convince us or yourself? nt

[PonyUp]

4. Sorry, but we are already convinced and in it for the long haul.

[Bubzer]

95. It's hillaryious that the first response post is one of her supporters trying to cast doubts.

Their whole goal... disenfranchise, disenfranchise, disenfranchise... it's not going to work.

[AlbertCat]

178. one of her supporters trying to cast doubts.

In the usual snotty, nose in the air, smug way.

So endearing.

[Bangbangdem]

179. Right on!

[Rockyj]

177. Yeppers & THANX

I needed that!

[tk2kewl]

6. you're better off remaining unconvinced

It will just make our job easier

[erlewyne]

10. I'm voting for Bernie Sanders on March 15.

It's going to be a beautiful day!

[tk2kewl]

12. Bernie will make sure we all get our say!

[Bangbangdem]

180. Ewwww!

Not very sporting.

[debunction.junction]

31. Sounds like "restorefreedom" is already convinced,

and wasn't trying to convince Hillary supporters of anything, which would be a wasted exercise anyway.

What was the purpose of your post? No facts were given, no contradiction was pointed out, nothing was added to the conversation. Just another argumentative statement.

If you want to debate the issues, fine, but snide remarks have no place here.

[Bubzer]

96. The whole goal is disenfranchisement... nothing more.

We'll be just fine! Bernie's powerhouse states are coming!

[HoosierRadical]

32. Since you were the first one to respond

it seems you are the one in trouble. Your candidate had her last hurrah last night, now that the southern states are out of the way, the party can now move forward with Bernie.

[LexVegas]

34. ....

[JackRiddler]

136. The ROFL smiley wins all arguments instantly!

Congratulations, you are a genius!

[Bangbangdem]

181. Hahaha!

Classic

[Bubzer]

148. Don't you have a GE to go prepare for?

[NJCher]

88. Life is short; eat dessert first.

now that the southern states are out of the way, the party can now move forward with Bernie.


Or to put it another way:

The rest of us will now be assuming a healthy course of action.

Cher

[Spitfire of ATJ]

171. The only time being smug is cute....

[PonyUp]

2. It just makes us donate more and support him harder.

Another $27 for Bernie today.

[restorefreedom]

3. who hooo! i can't wait to see the post ST fundraising numbers! nt

[marions ghost]

20. Yep sending my $27

[bjobotts]

172. Bernie wants everything I want and has always been constant and trustworthy. It's the message

not the candidate we stand for.

[Cobalt Violet]

5. feeling just as you.

Just yesterday they were all saying he would only win VT and would lose big in MA. Didn't happen that way. The worse is behind him. Let them keep underestimating him. They've been doing that all along and still raking in the $$.

[restorefreedom]

7. the revolution will not be televised. m$$$$m will fight it all the way. nt

[Cheese Sandwich]

8. We're used to being in the underdog position. Nothing has changed.

It's going to be a long campaign

[restorefreedom]

13. yes. but bernie has lots of $ to spend. nt

[Cheese Sandwich]

16. He can keep going all the way to the convention.

[restorefreedom]

17. and he is going to who hoooooo!! nt

[Betty Karlson]

9. At this point, Sanders' supporters are near-impervious to Weathervane messaging.

It's so transparent that we see right through it.

[restorefreedom]

14. yup. bouncing right off. nt

[Le Taz Hot]

25. They get savaged on social media

when they try to make the same talking points there that they try to make here. Savaged. Her and her supporters have absolutely no idea what this is all about. They still think it's a horserace. They're so blinded by partisan politics they don't see that the peasants are sharpening their pitchforks and readying the torches.

[Betty Karlson]

104. Add a few scythes and a collection of axes and flails.

Resentment is not just brewing against the politics of the élite, but against the way it reponds to the 99 % 's concerns: condescending, lying, conniving. And they believe that they are doing a good job at it! Total disconnection from reality.

[Awknid]

151. Yes! You got it!

They think its good policy to be rude & dismissive.

[yourpaljoey]

127. Aye Capitan, we are ready to work for change

[PonyUp]

53. ...

[dana_b]

118. Yes we do - BUT

I really hope that those who aren't as up on politics do too. I have a slight fear that some who would support Bernie will fall for the MSM/Clinton message that she is the inevitable one and that they will either not vote or vote for her because they think that it's done.

I have a tendency to be a bit of a pessimist though so take my concerns with yhat pinch of salt. 😉

[Betty Karlson]

119. I share your concerns.

But however much will be achieved by Sanders, we can be certain that it will be lasting achievement. Even if Sanders were to miss the nomination, the Democratic Left wing will never be dormant again, and Third Way will have to fight us every step of the way. They will have to win every day. We will only have to win once.

[Logical]

11. The hillary fans here are getting more arrogant daily, even rude. Nt

[restorefreedom]

15. sadly, yes. nt

[PonyUp]

28. And some have already started kissing up for our votes. n/t

[thereismore]

44. That ass kissing died abruptly when Bernie won

Those additional states. They know we're not going for it and they no longer feel magnanimous. They are just like their candidate.

[Qutzupalotl]

72. I wish we could have both the civility and the victories,

but since it apparently has to be one or the other ... I'll take the victories.

Onward to the blue states!

[Betty Karlson]

113. If that is the way it is, I'll gladly sacrifice my good manners.

Onward to victories!

[Logical]

94. I knew it would start quickly. Nt

[HoosierRadical]

35. That "arrogance" is just a shield, don't be fooled.

I wonder how they are going to react when Bernie clinches the nomination? To be honest, I think HRC's so-called firewall aka AA voters (my people) will get behind Bernie so fast, most will pretend they were always supporting him.

[chervilant]

49. I am curious.

I sat on a jury yesterday wherein a DUer (whose post got hidden 5-2) asserted that

"Bernie Sanders' insult directed at black voters in the South did not go down well, and his supporters have been most despicable and racist!"

(Just in case, please note that I am quoting herein above.)

What I want to know is what insult did Bernie direct at Black voters? I have tried to find it, but I don't know what search term will bring it up (I used my exact question in a search and turned up nothing). I am truly puzzled by this.

Also, I have not seen evidence that "...his supporters have been most despicable and racist!" I'm wondering if that 'blanket condemnation' of Bernie's supporters is the reason the post got hidden.

I've seen Bernie's record on civil rights. I have seen how Bernie has been responsive to the issues raised about racism during his campaign. I have to wonder why some of our Black brethren are asserting that Bernie (and his supporters) are racist.

Furthermore, I have to wonder why Hi11ary is not getting the same level of scrutiny from Black voters. I wonder why Hi11ary is not accused of racism, especially after she was grossly insensitive to the younglings who paid $500 to attend an event wherein they protested and were forcibly removed. I wonder how she gets a pass on calling our Black younglings "super predators."

I hope you will respond to my inquiries, because I am hopeful we can put these charges to rest, and encourage our Black brethren to support Senator Sanders.

[ieoeja]

90. The pretend "insult" was his money saving strategy of not campaigning heavily in the south.

They pretend that "not campaiging in the south" = ignoring African-Americans.

[Darb]

45. Find a mirror.

And look into it.

[Logical]

93. And see a real democrat? Good idea! Nt

[KPN]

83. Yes. They basically reflect Hillary ...

it's that authoritarian mindset. Perhaps they should just stay in the Hillary room where their foibles aren't so apparent.

[ozone_man]

163. They kind of always were.

But, especially now.

[bjobotts]

173. Years of practice. She's been running for president for 10yrs

[casperthegm]

18. HRC suppoters don't get it; we're not going anywhere

I can't speak for anyone else, but as a Bernie supporter I plan to redouble my efforts, continue to donate to his campaign, spread his message of honesty and integrity, and call out smears when they are thrown his way. To steal a phrase from John Paul Jones, "I've not yet begun to fight."

[restorefreedom]

21. they desperately wanted bernie out after tuesday

because the calendar favors him going forward. they know that and are going to keep pushing the inevitability bs.

thankfully, most are ignoring it.

[senz]

138. Yes, that makes sense. They know

eventually truth will come out, so time is most definitely not on their side.

Money, power, connections, corporate media, dirty tricks -- they have quite a treasure trove.

But truth is not with them. They fear it.

[restorefreedom]

140. corruption, like mold, hates sunlight. nt

[FailureToCommunicate]

19. And, we must keep in mind: this is not just about Bernie, but also the soul of our party.

[marions ghost]

22. It is the biggest test of the Dem Party

--how they handle it will be critical.

[restorefreedom]

23. yes, and we are in the process of recovering it. nt

[PonyUp]

29. The party has no soul at this time. Bernie can bring it back. n/t

[bvar22]

137. It is not about Bernie.

It is about us and The Movement.
Even if Hillary gets crowned Queen of the 1%, The Movement won't go away.
We WILL win in the end.
.
.
.
I would like to thank everyone who supported OWS, though the movement for Equal Protection, Equal Opportunity, and Equal Access existed long before OWS and Bernie. It is inspiring to see so many waking up. I am especially proud of the Millennials.

[George II]

24. The dates and delegate counts for the primaries/caucuses were established sometime last year...

....and they haven't changed. I don't know what "goalposts" have been moved. To most the "goalposts" are where they were originally set many months ago.

And I see you glossed right over the states of Virginia (225,000), Georgia (325,000) Alabama (235,000) Arkansas (85,000) and Texas (450,000).

In fact, in the four states that Sanders won last night, his combined margin was only about 175,000 votes, smaller than each of four of those states.

[obamanut2012]

50. The majority of the US population is the South

And the Midwest.

Also, people need to read up on the great Reverse Migration back into the South, and what that means, including how that's made VA blue, FL, and NC deep purple/lite blue.

[Fast Walker 52]

26. yes, enough of the mind games-- let the process play out

Everyone here is pretty much set in their choice anyway.

[liberal N proud]

27. No one is trying to demoralize

Just facing reality would be good though!

[restorefreedom]

30. sure. 75 percent of the country to vote, much of it

favorable to bernie, record setting fundraising, blowout favorables, and a kick ass message, not to mention stompin all gop hopefuls in every poll for a ge

reality looking good to me...

[malthaussen]

33. Things have gone about as expected.

Mr Sanders continues to erode support for Mrs Clinton, but not to the point of actually overtaking her. A matter of time? Meanwhile, Clinton supporters point to her wins and ignore the point that those wins are typically by a much smaller margin than expected.

-- Mal

[restorefreedom]

39. exactly. nt

[Blue_Tires]

36. Sanders isn't winning without minority votes

and that's still the bottom line

[restorefreedom]

40. and she won't win with such high unfavorables. nt

[Le Taz Hot]

41. I'm assuming you're talking about Latinos as well, no?

Because from where I sit, here in Central California in which Latinos/as ARE the numeric majority, they do not like Hillary and I'm being kind. We've been tabling at Spanish-language events and the response is overwhelmingly ANTI Hillary.

[Blue_Tires]

42. We'll see...

I can only speak for my state (VA)...

But depending how the breaks fall, Cali could certainly be in play for Sanders...

[R B Garr]

47. Or maybe they know how anti-Hillary you are and don't want to rock the boat, so they

are being sociable. Some stats last night were that Hillary ran away with the Hispanic vote. She's done the best by far with POC, hands down. Bernie literally has only won white males (this was all over the news last night and this morning).

Analysts last night and this morning have all said that Bernie has yet to show that he can win a state that reflects the Democratic party.

[Le Taz Hot]

48. Interesting theory with one major flaw.

I don't speak Spanish so I'm not at the Spanish-language events.

So, there's that.

[bvar22]

139. Oklahoma has a very high minority of Native Americans.

[liberal_at_heart]

71. And Hillary won't win without Independents, those who make under $250,000, and white

working voters.

[DinahMoeHum]

37. There are still over half of the states waiting for their turn. . .

. . .in the primary calendar.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/primary-calendar-and-results.html

Just sayin'.

[SidDithers]

38. Because he lost so badly in the southern states...

any delegate gains he made by winning OK, MN and CO were more than wiped out by the proportional delegates awarded in TX, GA and VA.

Bernie may have won a few battles yesterday, but he fell further behind in the war.

Sid

[Octafish]

46. Attitude determines Altitude.

Let's see what happens in the coming week in (I think) Kansas, Louisiana, Nebraska, Maine, Michigan and Mississippi.

ETA: Puerto Rico has moved the Dems to June 5.

[NCTraveler]

51. From the massive change in verbiage...

From his supporters after SC, I have to say I think you are wrong. Though I have no interest in making them feel demoralized. They have a lot of enthusiasm but little depth in numbers. I want to keep that enthusiasm around.

[restorefreedom]

57. no doubt some are a bit more pessimistic, we all react differently

but with the money he is raising and all the votes yet to be cast, i personally think its way too early for anyone to pack it in.

at least on this side.....rubio and carson, well....

[NCTraveler]

67. I'm not packing it in though I do see...

Clinton as having the upper hand. I love her fifty state strategy and it's clear she is in this for every vote. I won't be content until the convention and I don't expect you to be either.

That doesn't mean I shouldn't point out the fact that over one and a quarter million more people showed up for Clinton yesterday.

[restorefreedom]

74. yes, we are both in till philly. but the more interesting numbers to me

are the ones showing the huge gop turnout compared to dems. that just can't be a good sign for a ge.

[NCTraveler]

78. Turnout is a major concern. Agree. Nt

[giftedgirl77]

52. Sounds like a pretty empty investment at this point.

[restorefreedom]

58. thanks for kicking the thread! nt

[Faux pas]

54. Kicketty Kickin'

[restorefreedom]

59. :) nt

[tymorial]

55. Paul supporters said this in 2012

They eventually voted for Romney. I'm not comparing Sanders supporters to Paul supporters... I feel that when it comes to crunch time, people will always vote to keep the opposition out.

[restorefreedom]

60. going to be very interesting. nt

[mountain grammy]

56. Right after it was reported that Bernie won Colorado

Chuck Toad decided he should call Hillary, "the presumptive nominee."

[restorefreedom]

62. bwahahahahahaa. m$nbc is so disgustingly obvious. nt

[sarge43]

70. The thing about presumptives

They can be replaced.

[UglyGreed]

61. .

[redqueen]

63. K&R

[Orrex]

64. Well, as red herrings go, this isn't the reddest or herringest

But it does seek to reframe a national election as a personal attack on Sanders' supporters, which I find curious.

[Zorro]

65. THE SOUTH SHALL RISE AGAIN!

Same mindset.

[liberal_at_heart]

66. Damn right! Have a Bernie day to you too! I'm in WA. I can't wait to cast my vote for Bernie.

[restorefreedom]

75. :) nt

[Trust Buster]

68. The Bernie supporters ignore some inconvenient truths.

All the primaries going forward award delegates proportionally. There are no winner take all states. Bernie is approaching the point of being mathematically eliminated from closing the delegate gap in a proportional primary future.

As Bernie is pushed to the edge of the delegate cliff, the t.v. cameras will go away, The less invested Bernie supporters will turn to the winning candidate and the money will start to ebb. It will be a slow drip drip drip.

[restorefreedom]

77. mathematically eliminated with 25% votes cast. okey dokey. nt

[Trust Buster]

85. I said "nearing" mathematical elimination.

Bernie has to make up his delegate deficit in a proportional primary environment. It's not dissimilar to catching up to a car that's significantly ahead of you on the highway. The car ahead of you is not going to suddenly slam on the brakes and stop. That means you can't match that car's speed or you'll never catch up. Therefore, the trailing car must travel at a significantly higher speed in order to close the deficit. Bernie lost both the black and Hispanic vote badly yesterday. Being able to outpace Hillary enough to overtake her is mathematically unlikely.

[restorefreedom]

98. his entire campaign has been mathematically unlikely.

3% in the polls to now beating her in every head to head matchup in the ge and ahead in some national polls.

outraising her and setting fundraising records.

anyone who can accomplish what he has already accomplish is not to be underestimated.

but if it makes ya happy, go right on

[NJCher]

122. worthy of a thread on its own

I'll bet many could contribute other examples!

Cher

[restorefreedom]

123. thanks, will try and do later! nt

[NJCher]

128. great, 'cuz

I thought of another number.

Cher

[Android3.14]

69. He definitely did better than I hoped, and HRC has to be defecating building blocks

Her wins were far less extensive than she hyped us all to believe, and Sanders had a few surprise showings. Her margin will fall from here on out, and regardless of the snarky "I got mine, Hillary!" crowd, ethical and informed voters know that Sanders is the best choice for a primary vote.

[restorefreedom]

76. yup. its downhill for her now. nt

[NurseJackie]

73. Optimism is fine ... but Hillary has more delegates, and that's what really counts.

Bernie's mathematical path to the nomination hangs by a thread. No matter the excuses or positive "spin" that anyone tries to give to actual losses ... the REALITY is that Bernie will not be the nominee.

Go, Hillary! We love you!

[Duval]

79. I'm having a Bernie day!

[restorefreedom]

80. excellent!! nt

[NJCher]

121. not just you

When I arrived at school today (in NJ), students were in a circle outside the school chanting, "Bernie! Bernie! Bernie!"

Cher

[me b zola]

81. Recommended

[restorefreedom]

100. :) nt

[Helen Borg]

82. Bernie has been doing great.

The establishment is pushing to get him to quit because they know he'll trash Hillary in most other states.

[restorefreedom]

99. that is exactly it, and he and we, know it. nt

[PatrynXX]

84. tie difference is even more messes up in Mass when you figure out 14,000 went to other

so about 6000 difference between Berne + Other vs Hillary who was OTHER in mass??

[restorefreedom]

101. om? nt

[Helen Borg]

117. Monica?

[Yallow]

86. All This With Possible Indictments Looming

I don't know.

Maybe I am not supposed to talk about that......

Mishandling of sensitive information.

You know, the crime.

[restorefreedom]

105. yup. big shoes to drop imo. another reason they want him out,

if any legal issues arise, the don't want him at convention. they want to plug in their puppet.

too bad so sad not gonna happen.

[CoffeeCat]

87. I think the campaign is re-energized...and rightfully so!

If the "negative Nellys" haven't figures it out by now, anonymous posters on a messageboard have zero effect on our support for Bernie or our morale.

I think that $41 million speaks directly to how insignificant the "negative Nelly" factor is.

I am excited. I'll be donating today!

[restorefreedom]

106. can't wait to see the new fundraising numbers! nt

[ConsiderThis_2016]

89. The Lying MSM and their flock will get angrier by the day... so be it

[restorefreedom]

107. and uglier. we have to be prepared. nt

[Orsino]

91. Well, we are used to fighting our way uphill...

...on allegedly-level playing fields.

[restorefreedom]

108. allegedly. lol. yes, completely stacked and he is still beating expectations! nt

[TBF]

92. In it to Win it ~

better states with more delegates coming up!! Thank you Vermont, Oklahoma, Colorado, Minnesota & Massachusetts (so close and noting Bill Clinton shenanigans)!

No way are we dropping out now.

[restorefreedom]

109. yup. the states coming are better for him. thats why hms clinton is desperate. nt

[Autumn Colors]

97. Actually, it ended up being more than $42 million in Feb.

[restorefreedom]

110. who hooooo! fixed op :) nt

[GoldenThunder]

102. Hope you have comfortable shoes.

We're going the distance.

[restorefreedom]

111. yes! nt

[Autumn]

103. We have been behind since the beginning. Look where we are today.

Ignore the brockshit.

[restorefreedom]

112. yup. nt

[Betty Karlson]

115. Gladly.

Common wisdom is so last century: it's just another elitist echo-chamber these days.

[pdsimdars]

114. I also love the reality shown in the polls

Bernie wins by big margins against EVERY ONE of the GOP candidates, whereas Hillary does NOT, and those she is higher than it is within the margin of error.
AND . . . voters don't like her and don't trust her. . not me saying this but VOTERS, whereas Bernie has the highest approval and trustworthiness seen.

Guess that means nothing either.

Fact upon fact upon fact, but they turn away and deflect.

[restorefreedom]

124. denial is a strong force. nt

[OkSustainAg]

116. What amazes me.

The ideas being brought up by Bernie doesn't stop with this election. The idea of Democratic candidates acting like republicans will be attacked in EVERY election and on EVERY issue.

[restorefreedom]

125. you want a real mindblower?

stop over at fr. they are using terms like "donor class" oligarchy, and uniparty

if you didn't know where you were, it could be confused with the bernie group.

thats how full circle we have come. freepers channeling bernie.

[randome]

120. Soon our evil plot to kill all the dreams will succeed!

My dream of going to the 4th grade prom? It's dead along with all the other dreams! Ha-ha-ha-ha!

(Crap. Did I say that out loud?)
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You have to play the game to find out why you're playing the game. -Existenz[/center][/font][hr]

[Lil Missy]

126. No need to bring Bernie supporters down. They do it to themselves. n/t

[restorefreedom]

129. you are an excellent spokesperson for your candidate. nt

[brooklynite]

130. We're not planning to "take him down"

We're just planning to not vote for him. Seems to be working so far.

[restorefreedom]

131. voting for the candidate of choice is not what i am talking about

i am talking about the endless stream of threads, talking heads, blog articles,m$m pieces, trying to discourage bernie supporters into thinking he has no chance and should just drop out now. i actually heard kasey hunt use the word "defiant" to describe him, like he has no right to be in this race.

vote for who you like. but your colleagues and du buddies are doing their best to demoralize Bernie supporters, and all they are accomplishing is strengthening our resolve that either he will win or that no way in hell are we going to support hillary in nov.

neither is good for your candidate.

[brooklynite]

132. In other words, why can't we live in our own little bubble?

Nobody complains the the endless threads saying Clinton can't win the GE is intended to discourage Clinton supporters; we just challenge their validity. Discussion of the prospects of candidates in an election is something the media has covered for decades. If you don't believe what they're saying, then what they're saying won't matter. I think the problem is you can see reality and you don't like it.

[restorefreedom]

134. the media is one sided in their "reality"

individuals can have whatever opinions they like, but news media is supposed to report news, not try and create it. and that is what they are doing.

please explain how a reporter covering the sanders campaign and referring to him as "defiant" is not blatant bias?

[cui bono]

133. I love it when you talk Bernie to me!

.

[restorefreedom]

135. lol! bernies got the mojo! nt

[Babel_17]

141. "You didn't think it was going to be that easy, did you?"

We're ready to rumble.

[restorefreedom]

142. we knew what we were up against.

in a way, its almost a relief to see the masks torn off. they are proud of who they are.

[Babel_17]

146. No more eyes wide shut as to the differences between the candidates

We'll be choosing between two different candidates, and approaches.

[corbettkroehler]

143. Steven Rosenfeld Claims Bernie's In Trouble

I agree with you about the mainstream media and coverage of the revolution. However, Steven Rosenfeld writes for AlterNet and has the same opinion about Bernie's road to the nomination:

http://www.alternet.org/trump-continues-steamroll-gop-while-bernie-disrupts-night-hillary-was-supposed-lock-nomination

Your thoughts?

[restorefreedom]

144. we always knew it would be a rocky path.but he has a good chance in many upcoming states

certainly not easy, but with much of the country left to vote, he needs a couple of good wins and the wind at his back

[restorefreedom]

145. ps my internet is locking on the article

so i could not comment on it in detail. i will try again later to look at it again.

[Bubzer]

150. Not sure where you're getting that impresion. Perhaps you could cite the passage?

[Enthusiast]

147. K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations!

[restorefreedom]

153. :) nt

[TIME TO PANIC]

149. K & R!

[restorefreedom]

154. :) nt

[warrprayer]

152. It's getting hot

Here in D.U. land!

Feel the Bern yet?

[restorefreedom]

155. definitely getting interesting nt

[Milliesmom]

156. Go help Bernie and take the pledge

https://citizensagainstplutocracy.wordpress.com/2015/07/22/bernie-or-bust-pledge-is-the-miracle-senator-sanders-needs-to-secure-party-nomination/

[silvershadow]

157. Bill wants to take exception to your characterization:

[restorefreedom]

158. snort! nt

[cleopotrick]

159. "have a bernie day!"!!!!! LOVE! You too!!!!!

[restorefreedom]

160. :) :) nt

[cleopotrick]

161. god save my fingers as they start typing ad hominem expletives on every pro-hillary thread

just need to re-center my chi for a moment and focus on tiger love.

breathe.

there.

back to having a bernie day!

[restorefreedom]

164. yes....ommmmm and namaste. nt

[Karma13612]

162. I think it would be really awesome if the Sanders campaign came up

with a nation-wide ad that assures future states that their voices will be heard.

I know some saw his speech last night, but I think we can agree that whole pockets of people are not hearing about Bernie because the MSM is doing a great cover job.

How about an ad that hammers home the assurance that

"Bernie is coming to your state so make sure you are ready to vote or caucus"

Relax, we are going to make sure your voice is heard in this election cycle.

etc
etc.

I knew he wasn't giving up, but when he assured us of this last night, it actually helped me with my worries that Hillary was going to just end the whole thing.

Sanders Campaign, give it some thought!

K??

[restorefreedom]

183. its a good idea. maybe email the campaign? nt

[Bleacher Creature]

165. Math is your enemy - not random online Clinton supporters. nt

[840high]

166. Bernie got my vote yesterday.

k/r

[INdemo]

167. I dont think Hillary's organization is anything to bragg about in upcoming states

because she was not prepared nor was Debbie prepared for Hillary to be challenged this far along in the campaign...Surprise Surprise Hillary

[TheFarS1de]

168. K&R

Onwards ! Keep our eyes on the prize .

[humbled_opinion]

170. Well with the FBI

granting immunity to the guy that set up her private email server, tsk, tsk, she may be suspending her campaign after they haul her in for questioning.... Go Bernie...

[restorefreedom]

184. yes that is lookimg ominous. usually they make deals

in order to move up the chain....

[sabrina 1]

174. It makes me laugh how desperate the attempts to try to stop the incredible momentum

Bernie has and it's only increasing as more people begin to pay attention to the election.

AAs, Latinos, Women are deserting Hillary and signing on with Bernie and that will only continue as the campaign goes on

Hillary and Trump won the Confederate states with very little turnout. Bernie won BIG in the Progressive states.

But it's interesting how NASTY and Right Wing like the attacks on Sen Sanders are coming from Democrats. I expect that from Republicans.

Otoh, it's not surprising, same thing happened to Obama in 2008. She lost then and will again.

[restorefreedom]

185. and that is why the desperation is growing

its 2008 redux. and they know bernies worse states are behind him. it only gets better from here for him.

i really believe there is no more d vs r, at least at the top. its the power brokers vs the people. if you really want a mind blowing experience, they are saying the same thing at fr. they are seething at the idea that gopE insiders are trying to steal the nom from trump or are even gonna vote hillary against him.

they are using words like uniparty, oligarchy, donor class. its like bernie group over there! (well not completely.....)

[kgnu_fan]

175. bernie did great here in Colorado... more people are fired up!

[Livluvgrow]

176. They disenfranchised

Me so much that I just quit the democratic party after 24 years. Kinda freeing. Makew me think of the stones song. i am free to do what I want any old time.

[King_Klonopin]

182. I have never seen any Hillary supporter make a case against Bernie on any thread.

What specific positions do they refute or disavow ?
What has he said that they disagree with ?
What specific positions go against their ideology, which, I assume, to be "progressive" ?
What is it that they don't like about him as a person ?

Instead, this is what I see or read into the arguments, pro and con:

Support Hillary because she is Hillary
She's earned it. She has a long resume. It's her turn. She is winning.
We should vote for the front-runner because she is the front-runner.

Support Hillary because Bernie has no chance of winning the general election.
Simple cynicism to say the least, and NOT ACTUALLY SUPPORTED by the data of polls.

Don't support Bernie because his proposals are purely an unattainable fantasy.
A cynical, shameful, defeatist capitulation to the status quo. His positions, which are
the truer reflection of the principles of progressive dems, are dismissed as ideological --
A Left-Wing Tea Party candidacy, according to Bill Clinton -- shameful sell-outs !!!!

Don't support Bernie because he is not trusted by minorities or women
A dishonest accusation, to say the least. A total fiction, created by the surrogates
of HRC camp. In regards to protecting women rights, minorities rights, the middle-class,
and the under-class, Bernie's resume is more impressive to me and I trust him more.


I am beginning to loathe "moderate, centrist democrats." The United States needs MORE
people like Bernie and Elizabeth Warren.