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George II

(67,782 posts)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:47 AM Mar 2016

Looking forward to March 15:

Clinton's Project538 forecast chances of winning:

March 5, 6

Nebraska - no forecast 26 delegates
Kansas - no forecast 33 delegates
Maine - no forecast 25 delegates
Mississippi - no forecast 36 delegates

March 8

Michigan - 98% 133 delegates

March 15

Florida - 99% 207 delegates
Ohio - 94% 148 delegates
Illinois - 99% 160 delegates
Missouri - no forecast 75 delegates
North Carolina - 94% 107 delegates

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Looking forward to March 15: (Original Post) George II Mar 2016 OP
Looks good for Hillary DCBob Mar 2016 #1
Sweet ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #2
Looking good! More evidence she will wrap this up soon. livetohike Mar 2016 #3
That's a total of 950 delegates on the line. HappyinLA Mar 2016 #4
That's right - math MaggieD Mar 2016 #5
He's been denigrating the Democratic Party for almost 40 years, he hasn't changed. George II Mar 2016 #7
Yes, but now he has a national stage to do it MaggieD Mar 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Sivart Mar 2016 #12
It's possible that's true, but I give Bernie credit for actually running as a Democrat and not bushisanidiot Mar 2016 #14
I don't give him credit for that MaggieD Mar 2016 #17
Good points - that's the beauty of proportional primaries. My calculation a few days ago.... George II Mar 2016 #6
Numbers. Math. Reality. (All these things show us that Bernie will NOT be the nominee.) NurseJackie Mar 2016 #9
But when you point out the math Codeine Mar 2016 #15
Heres some forecasts: JaneyVee Mar 2016 #8
Thank you for the post auntpurl Mar 2016 #10
Me too MaggieD Mar 2016 #13
Same here! To quote our Madam (Future) President, "We need more love and kindness in America." bushisanidiot Mar 2016 #18
My projections alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #16
And BS margins on his wins do nothing for him. HappyinLA Mar 2016 #19
That's correct alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #21
I'm starting to think HappyinLA Mar 2016 #22
They recognize that point when it's to their advantage, ignore it otherwise alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #23
Pretty realistic - as it has been, he wins the smaller states with low minority representation, and. George II Mar 2016 #20
We will learn more about what kind of man Bernie is after March 15. Alfresco Mar 2016 #24

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
1. Looks good for Hillary
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:50 AM
Mar 2016

March 5,6 -- probably a wash with neither candidate dominating.

March 8 -- Michigan should be good for Hillary.

March 15 -- Huge for Hillary.

Probably another 100 delegate gain total.

HappyinLA

(129 posts)
4. That's a total of 950 delegates on the line.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:01 AM
Mar 2016


If her current polls hold, she should pick up around 468 delegates just from MI,IL,FL,NC,OH.

That alone would give her around 1521 total delegates. She'd need 861 more to take the nom.

861 out of the remaining 2442 available. That's 35%. She could lose every remaining state 65/35 and still win.

But wait, there's more! So she picks up 468 from those 5 states. What about LA,NE,KS,ME,MS,MO? Let's say she loses them all big. 70/30 big. She'll still pull in around 72 delegates. (Those 6 states are worth 241 total delegates).

So now she'd be sitting at 1593, and only need 789 more to get the nom. Now she just needs 32% of the remaining delegates. BS would have to beat her in every remaining state by no less than 68/32.

BS is done. The math just isn't there.
 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
5. That's right - math
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:04 AM
Mar 2016

But I think he is more interested in tearing down the Democratic Party than winning. So he will stay in to do that.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
11. Yes, but now he has a national stage to do it
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:18 AM
Mar 2016

And that is his real goal, it appears. Not to win, but simply to tear down the party he has been dissing for decades.

Response to MaggieD (Reply #5)

bushisanidiot

(8,064 posts)
14. It's possible that's true, but I give Bernie credit for actually running as a Democrat and not
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:20 AM
Mar 2016

as a third party candidate. He has said repeatedly that the main thing is to not allow another republican in the white house. He will bow out gracefully (I believe) before the end of March and he will give a great speech that asks his supporters to help Hillary win November. He has said before that on her worst day, Hillary is better than any of the republican candidates on their best day.

I just hope the Bernie bots don't try to start some asinine write in campaign to effectively elect Trump as POTUS.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
17. I don't give him credit for that
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:23 AM
Mar 2016

He didn't have the guts to do an independent run. He opportunistically used the party he hates as a platform to tear it down.

As a loyal Dem I loathe Bernie for that reason alone.

George II

(67,782 posts)
6. Good points - that's the beauty of proportional primaries. My calculation a few days ago....
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:08 AM
Mar 2016

....was that after last night (it went just about as forecast) Sanders would have to win each of the remaining states by about 62-38% in order to get the nomination.

That 62% will go up even more in the remaining states after March 15.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
15. But when you point out the math
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:23 AM
Mar 2016

they just keep saying "there's plenty of delegates out there" and "California!" without any evident understanding of the kind of margins he's going to have to win by.

The devil is in the differential now. They aren't getting that.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
10. Thank you for the post
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:14 AM
Mar 2016

God, I love data. I find these threads so much more satisfying than the rant-y ones.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
16. My projections
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:23 AM
Mar 2016

Sanders will win

Nebraska, 52-48
Kansas, 54-46
Maine, 68-32

Clinton will win

Mississippi, 76-32
Michigan, 55-45
Florida, 58-42
Illinois, 54-46 (This will be the closer-than-expected result)
Ohio, in a squeaker, 51-49
North Carolina, 62-37

Total toss up:
Missouri, no idea. Clinton will win the cities, following the usual Dem pattern. Will it be enough? Not clear. My guess is 50-50 with Sanders perhaps pulling it out.

HappyinLA

(129 posts)
19. And BS margins on his wins do nothing for him.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:32 AM
Mar 2016

NE, 52/48 gets him a 13/12 delegate split.
KS, 54/46 would be a 18/15 split.
ME, 68/32 would be a 17/8 split.

A whole +13 for BS.

MS alone, at 76/32 is a 27/9 split, +18 to HRC. One state for her eats up his three wins.

His team has to realize this isn't how you win right? He's playing small ball when he needs to be swinging for the fences. All HRC has to do now is bat for average.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
21. That's correct
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:49 AM
Mar 2016

I think they're hoping if they can rack up some unexpected wins before the end of March, then they will shift perceptions enough to make actual delegate gains in April, May, and especially June.

California is their Holy Grail, of course.

It's a fantasy.

HappyinLA

(129 posts)
22. I'm starting to think
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:58 AM
Mar 2016

they don't get the whole "proportional" delegate thing. That they think the states are winner take all, or worse that the winner is who "wins" the most states instead of delegates.



 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
23. They recognize that point when it's to their advantage, ignore it otherwise
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:05 PM
Mar 2016

Colorado was a "major victory," the 2-1 walloping in Texas was "expected," and Massachusetts was "a draw."

The engine hits the wall eventually, but we're all going to have to go on this ride with them.

Such is life.

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. Pretty realistic - as it has been, he wins the smaller states with low minority representation, and.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:47 AM
Mar 2016

...Clinton wins the larger states that are more representative of a cross-section of the country.

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