Sanders: the "white men" candidate clearly shows up again in Texas

[DCBob]

From NY Times Texas exit poll..


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/03/01/us/elections/texas-democrat-poll.html?_r=0

Not that there is anything wrong that.

[LexVegas]

1. K&R. nt

[2pooped2pop]

2. He's the every man's candidate

Some people chose to be blind

[AzDar]

21. ^ This.

[valerief]

3. Exit polls stopped mattering once electronic voting was introduced. nt

[DCBob]

4. Why do the networks still do them every election?

[valerief]

6. If I controlled the networks, they'd look a whole lot different. nt

[UglyGreed]

5. Why do you push this???

and then add a disclaimer. What are you implying??? Sanders is attracting white men with his talk of income equality or that he wants to rein in Wall Street which is dominated by rich white men???? I really don't see the point............. SMH

[revbones]

7. They can't speak to the issues. This is all the sort of thing they have.

[DCBob]

10. Its an interesting intriguing fact...

and worthy of discussion on a political discussion board.

[UglyGreed]

18. Yes I hope

David Brock looks into this intriguing, complex matter and if this is just used to divide people and have it work in Hillary's favor................

[azurnoir]

19. ever hear divide and conquer? well here it is

and besides it comes with the added bonus of insinuating racism/sexism in Bernies supporters

[UglyGreed]

39. Whatever it takes

it seems. Imagine if they thought they were losing????

[NWCorona]

8. Why are you race baiting?

[DCBob]

11. Huh??

[NWCorona]

13. Why "white men" Then?

I stand behind my comment.

[DCBob]

15. That's a demographic from the exit poll.

[NWCorona]

16. IMHO your post is pure flame bait

[DCBob]

20. Not at all.. I think its a fair item to discuss.

If fact as a Hillary supporter it bothers me that she doesnt connect as well with white males as Bernie. I would like to discuss why that is and perhaps come up with some ideas on how to fix that.

[NWCorona]

27. It's the framing of the post.

[DCBob]

29. Framing?

Please be specific.

[NWCorona]

36. I can't understand the point of your post

Other than to race bait. I mean what analysis did you add from the article you linked other than "white men "?

Again, I'll stand behind my post.

[DCBob]

42. Good grief.. its an issue.

Both candidate's campaigns I am sure are aware of this and discuss it regarding campaign strategy. Why cant we discus it here on a political discussion board??

[NurseJackie]

50. Because it's inconvenient?

Easier to attack and distract and shut down rather than accept reality? (Just asking and offering possible reasons ... I can't be certain, you know.)

[Armstead]

9. Those awful white men again. They are despicable. I hate white men. Worse than Lyme Tics.

I really don't like Jewish white men.

[DCBob]

12. What on earth are you talking about??

[Armstead]

14. Oh don't play dumb.

That post was flamebait and you know it.

Even if you simply wanted to point out a demographic "concern" about Sanders appeal, that headline and cute little disclaimer was divisive and insulting, and I think you realize that.

If you're going to post flamebait, at least own it.

[DCBob]

17. Its a data item worthy of discussion on a political discussion board.

If I were a Bernie supporter I would be bothered by this and try to discuss how to fix it.

[Luminous Animal]

22. Indeed. Your intentions are pure. Just trying to help out Bernie supporters, eh?

*Blink blink* Moi? Divisive? *Blink blink*

[DCBob]

26. I think its also an issue we as Hillary supporters should take note.

Why doesnt she connect as well with white men as Bernie? This could be important issue in the general as well.

[Armstead]

28. We Sanders supporters appreciate your desire to help

Your concern over his demographic appeal compared to your chosen candidate is appreciated.

Hint: If you ever are sincerely interested in a discussion, it might be helpful to actually discuss reasons and ask questions without putting it in that kind of cast.

It might also be helpful to acknowledge that he started from a position of being largely unknown, and was instantly and falsely tared with the brush of "racism" and "sexism" by Clinton surrogates before he even opened his mouth in the campaign.

And that the Clinton campaign, genius corporate marketers that they are, are exploiting racial divisions in a complete turnaround from 2008, when she consciously courted the white vote.

[DCBob]

31. You are arguing with a polling data item.

Sorry if it bothers you so much. Sticking your head in the sand and ignoring it does you or your candidate no good.

[Armstead]

46. Not sticking head in sand or ignoring it

I know less than nothing about Texas, and have no clue why it was so skewed.

Yes Sanders appeal to white males is his strongest areas. I have theories, but they're just theories. I also note the points about the effect of the divisive and misleading aspects of the Clinton campaign in my previous post.

[whatchamacallit]

23. Yes, white men suck unless they support Hillary

Fuck this place.

[giftedgirl77]

30. Bye Felicia.

[Lizzie Poppet]

24. Odd that among Texas Dems, it's white men who lean the more progressive.

What a truly surreal situation...

[DCBob]

37. Good point.. it is odd.

I dont have an answer.

[Lizzie Poppet]

49. Nor do I.

It struck me as unexpected...but I'm having difficulty wrapping my head around the heavy minority support for Hillary in the first place. Didn't realize I was living in such a bubble...

[brush]

40. Those are only the dems, not the entire population of Texas men.

[Lizzie Poppet]

47. Thus my reason for specifying "Dems." (nm)

[brush]

52. Oops! My bad.

[virgogal]

25. Shame on the NYT for breaking down the votes by

sex,race,and ethnicity. What's next ? Education? Lifestyle?

One vote is one vote.

I have been voting since the fifties and the division of types of voters is out of control.

.

[kracer20]

32. Hmmm.

Sounds like Hillary needs to step up her game and try and appeal to "white men".

[DCBob]

34. Yes, that is good point.

Funny you were the first person to mention that without bashing me for posting this.

[frazzled]

51. By the same token

It sounds like Bernie needs to step up his game and try to appeal to the 73% of others (white women, black men and women, and Latino men and women) who form a majority of the Democratic electorate.

[HooptieWagon]

33. More race-baiting?

With a side of misogyny? I'll just add that to my list of things to remember come November.

[DCBob]

35. How exactly?

[NWCorona]

41. This has been explained to you multiple times with not much if any support

[DCBob]

44. And it makes no sense.

[NWCorona]

45. And that's the problem

[stonecutter357]

38. K&R!

[WDIM]

43. I've never met anybody that is "white"

But I don't see skin color. Wish the rest of the world would catch up.

[hobbit709]

48. So what happened in OK?

[GeorgeGist]

53. What difference does it make?

Hillary is inevitable.

[DCBob]

54. It's an interesting topic for discussion.

imo.