2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAnecdotal evidence: stupor Wednesday edition
At work we have two groups of republicans, the ranged and the deranged. The latter were quite clear that they will be voting against Clinton, who apparently belongs in jail because <words>.
The ranged are just dismayed by Trump and may or may not vote and it isn't clear at all that they won't just fall in line and vote for Trump. They do not seem to think voting for Clinton is a possibility.
Not one person across the political spectrum voiced any enthusiasm for Clinton at all.
So the point, and it is only anecdotal, is that Trump v Clinton is not a sure bet for a Clinton victory.
Clinton's non-anecdotal negatives are yuuuuge. She will get out the vote, drive turnout, but not for Democrats. We are likely in the process of selecting the best candidate to lose to Trump.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Bernie is the only way out of that mess.
elleng
(130,864 posts)we are going to lose.'
Marco Rubio
Goes for BOTH parties.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)80% said that Bernie was trustworthy, and 53% thought that Hillary was.
Only 53% ?
Imagine what Republicans think of her.
elleng
(130,864 posts)brush
(53,764 posts)if Trumps wins the nomination.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)When I see this claim being made I wonder if the person making the claim thinks only white people vote. There are very specific percentages of minority votes one absolutely has to get to become president,Trump doesn't have them and doesn't have a prayer of getting them.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)and a large block of undecided independent swing votes.
Non-white voters are overwhelmingly in the d camp. The election will be decided, as always by that other group, the undecided independent voter, and by the turnout of all of those groups.
Clinton is not driving turnout in the d base.