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RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:34 PM Mar 2016

PBS News Hour: "Your Numbers Are Misleading"

PBS had a new person on discussing the primaries. PBS showed the delegate numbers in the Democratic race and lumped in the un-pledged super delegates with Hillary's pledged delegates.

The new person immediately said that PBS numbers were misleading.

I betcha PBS just ignores that truth and continues down that misleading path.

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PBS News Hour: "Your Numbers Are Misleading" (Original Post) RobertEarl Mar 2016 OP
Why is it misleading? NobodyHere Mar 2016 #1
Because they don't belong to her RobertEarl Mar 2016 #5
Because they're not pledged delegates. They can change their allegiance at any time, winter is coming Mar 2016 #6
Saw the same chart on MSNBC this afternoon. CincyDem Mar 2016 #2
They just did the exact same thing xloadiex Mar 2016 #3
Corporate Media Numbers Are All Misleading noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #4
NBC Nightly News is doing the same thing. Have seen it at least twice. Disgusting. kath Mar 2016 #7
If Its a Fact they Are Pledged Then it Would Be Dereliction of Duty to Not Report the Truth Stallion Mar 2016 #8
They are not pledged RobertEarl Mar 2016 #9
Sure they Are-You Can Pledge Support and Change Your Mind Stallion Mar 2016 #10
They are what? RobertEarl Mar 2016 #11
Nobody Said they Were Owned-they Say Pledged Stallion Mar 2016 #14
That's what I thought RobertEarl Mar 2016 #15
They Aren't Misrepresenting Any Thing If They Clearly State the Difference in the Delegates Stallion Mar 2016 #16
Well, they don't clearly state the difference RobertEarl Mar 2016 #17
Sanders is actually ahead and will likely be the nominee. zappaman Mar 2016 #12
Just another M$M conspiracy RobertEarl Mar 2016 #13
Remember, PBS was infiltrated awhile back. It isn't the same PBS we grew up with. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #18
That's the feeling I have RobertEarl Mar 2016 #19
Yeah, I sadly forget which group or how it happened now. Normally I wouldn't have, but I suffer silvershadow Mar 2016 #21
Based on this theory, neither Bernie nor Clinton should be credited with any delegates onenote Mar 2016 #20
If you say so. RobertEarl Mar 2016 #22
I guess you've decided to change the subject. onenote Mar 2016 #23
My subject is RobertEarl Mar 2016 #24
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
5. Because they don't belong to her
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:48 PM
Mar 2016

But the news people are claiming she owns them. I bet a few of them are going to rebel. It could get real nasty.

The establishment heads of the party need to wake up and put an end to the news people misleading the public.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
6. Because they're not pledged delegates. They can change their allegiance at any time,
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:53 PM
Mar 2016

and did, in 2008. If HRC's campaign goes sour for any reason, the superdelegates aren't obligated to vote for her.

CincyDem

(6,346 posts)
2. Saw the same chart on MSNBC this afternoon.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:38 PM
Mar 2016


I forget the exact numbers..

Something like 1052 for HRC and 425 for BS. Chuck Todd did however voice over while running the numbers that these totals include the super delegates that are not chosen by primary or caucus. He also said "just over half" of Clinton's number were super delegates.

Assume half...that means the electorate choice is about 525 to 425. Gives a different impression of the spread, eh?

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
4. Corporate Media Numbers Are All Misleading
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:47 PM
Mar 2016

All of the corporate media are including the super delegates. I just saw CBS do it and never once mention it includes super delegates. Face it kids we are running against the entire political establishment and the corporate media and they don't care that they are misleading voters. A Republican I work with said he was angry at the GOP for trying to defeat Trump. He said the voters should be the ones to decide not the establishment. He also said he recognized what they were doing to Bernie too. He's not a big Trump supporter. He's criticized all kinds of things he's said but he's being pushed in Trump's direction because of the GOP establishment.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
8. If Its a Fact they Are Pledged Then it Would Be Dereliction of Duty to Not Report the Truth
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:16 PM
Mar 2016

as long as it is reported correctly news organization should report this information. I understand many don't want the truth to be reported

Its really no different than reporting the results of a poll

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
9. They are not pledged
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:52 PM
Mar 2016

It is a dereliction of duty to report them as being owned by Hillary.

I bet the lady who told them the numbers are misleading is never invited back.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
10. Sure they Are-You Can Pledge Support and Change Your Mind
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 09:06 PM
Mar 2016

News organizations should report the events which under the rules of the Democratic Party are relevant to a candidate reaching the required delegates to win the nomination-and they should report that those pledged delegates can change their mind as well

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
11. They are what?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 09:17 PM
Mar 2016

I am not following you. To be clear, the super delegates are not owned by Hillary. The news should not be lumping them in the H column. They should be separate, right?

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
14. Nobody Said they Were Owned-they Say Pledged
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:32 PM
Mar 2016

if they reported that the 500 or so delegates were pledged but can later change their minds then that is a 100% correct fact that should be reported because it is relevant to whether Clinton potentially has enough votes for the nomination. Apparently a lot of Sanders supporters don't want a relevant fact to be reported. I'm sure its embarrassing that 98% of Democratic Officeholders don't want a Democratic Socialist at the Top of the same Ticket

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
17. Well, they don't clearly state the difference
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:59 PM
Mar 2016

Now, knowing that, is it your position they are misleading, just like the analyst claimed on PBS Newshour?

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
13. Just another M$M conspiracy
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 09:33 PM
Mar 2016

They are doing everything they can to beat Bernie down and build Hillary up. But they will fail.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
19. That's the feeling I have
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:21 AM
Mar 2016

I hadn't watched it in years. Quit back when they were yapping about how we were gonna save Iraq.

The McNeil/Leher newshour would have never allowed the misleading on the air like was done today.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
21. Yeah, I sadly forget which group or how it happened now. Normally I wouldn't have, but I suffer
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:23 AM
Mar 2016

from outrage fatigue and forget. The vultures are devouring our entire Democratic Republic. Well, the Democratic part, anyway.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
22. If you say so.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:34 AM
Mar 2016

The establishment makes the rules to suit themselves so they can keep others in 'their' place. Shenanigans would not surprise me one bit.

onenote

(42,680 posts)
23. I guess you've decided to change the subject.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:59 AM
Mar 2016

Since it doesn't turn out to be as cut and dried as you seem to think it is

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
24. My subject is
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 01:04 AM
Mar 2016

That the media is using misleading graphs and numbers.

You brought up the idea that things are not the same in every state. That's fine. No complaints.

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