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coded messages. 
sorry about that. But have a lovely evening anyways. 
Like "berniebros", it's an expression someone somewhere on the internet is talking about. Whether that makes it "an actual thing" i suppose depends on how one defines "thing".
Thank God, that means that something like 60% of reality is nekkid ladies. Sweet.
ETA: "3rd Party Perspective", well done on the double entendre. 
unintentional snark.
So if you want to make some authoritative statements as to what I, personally, do or don't believe, you can start by looking at the shit I've actually said, instead of arguing with one of these.
via Post #28 and the subsequent downthread. Quite disheartening. 
Ah, well, fuck.
as an idea hatched on the internet, makes it a "thing". That doesn't mean it is organized. That doesn't mean everyone has heard of it, or approves (or disapproves for that matter) of it. We are not a monolith. PS: Berniebros is probably a term fist coined in Karl Rove's stink tank, and he thanks you for keeping it alive.
You sure do have a lot of posts for someone who has only been here since 2012. I'm going to have a gander at some of them to see what you are about. 
I thought we were having a discussion....on a discussion board.
Destroy over half century of aid to single mothers during the 1990s? Check. One of Hillary's many, massive attacks on women and children, so the head explodes at how she can get away with calling herself a champion of these groups; but there's more,
Demean single mothers as "deadbeats" in the 1990s? Check. Just kidding. Hillary demeaned single mothers at least as recently as 2002 as "deadbeats" while defending the 1990s assault on lower income women and children...check.
Was for NAFTA? Check.
Believes the U.S. should continue to be one of the few western countries in the world with death penalty, and where healthcare is a "market commodity"? Check and check for Hillary.
Pushed for Fracking in the U.S. and around the world too? Check:
Claimed pro-NAFTA was a "mistake"? and but now tells us we should like the ultra-NAFTA TPPP, TransPacific corporate trade deal? Check.
Voted for Iraq war leading to thousands of dead Americans and hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis including dead Women and Children (but brown skinned, so Hillary can still call herself a champion of Women and Children, right?) and estimated 3 Trillion dollar long term cost? Check on all three.
Helped massive incarceration increase in 1990s to explode? While talking not about rehabilitating adults, not even rehabilitating kids, but telling us that even minors are "super-predators" who, Hillary told us, "have absolutely no conscience or empathy" so "lock 'em up" while trying to scare the public, led to explosion in prison even though crime had already peaked:
Claimed Iraq vote was a "mistake" that she "learned from" (It wasn't a mistake, it was a political calculation, anyone paying attention knew it was a scam that war...Her defenders must thing she was both stupid and incompetent to be "fooled" she was not, she is not kind or empathetic or progressive but she is very smart, cold calculating smart, but smart) But let's assume it really was a "mistake"
Did Hillary "learn from" that mistake? Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, reminds us Hillary only pushed for the same thing in Libya, leading to another disaster:
Not getting into what "or bust" means, it's different for each person..some of us are in states where it's not even close, so there's always Dr. Jill Stein of the Greens...others have a more difficult tactical choice to make if right-wing Hillary Clinton (who is more right wing than Trump on the whole regime change, bomb, invade, occupy thing...though Trump is obviously worse in other ways) and I do not envy them that difficult choice..
But if "or bust" means, "or else our changes of getting a liberal, never MIND a progressive" will be "bust" (unless someone runs third party who can win) then of course they are right: a right-winger like Hillary, who was able to destroy more than Reagan could in some big areas of social programs, that is indeed "bust" for any hopes of an actual progressive or even liberal...she isn't even liberal on foreign policy, and only in some areas domestically (she's not liberal on civil liberties, Patriot Act, corporate trade, public non-profit healthcare, or scores of other areas, not even liberal)
I'm not even including another set of hundreds of thousands of women and children Hillary's policies have killed off long before the 2003 Iraq war...But like white American women who are low income or moderate income, their massive killing doesn't preventt, mind bogglingly, doesn't stop Hillary from calling herself a champion of women and children, it's almost as crazy as Kissinger being given a Nobel Peace prize...oh, wait..
"Tangible issues"? Yeah, I think we've mentioned a dozen or so extremely tangible ones, but that won't stop the "you just don't like her personally" charges and other victim playing charges from some of her supporters...who, in fact, are the ones refusing to know about and acknowledge the above tangible issues..
Bye now.
Seems like a waste of time when all I have to do is not vote for Hillary on Election Day. 
