Why Clinton is a Lock...

[tgards79]

...and Trump too barring some incredibly creative idea that no one has thought of: http://www.borntorunthenumbers.com/2016/03/super-tuesday-clinton-locks-it-down.html

[peacebird]

1. If that is true, all hail Pres Trump

Because Hillary cannot win, not even this latest version of "love & kindness" Hillary.

[onenote]

5. Actually Clinton can't lose if the Sanders and Clinton supporters come together after the convention

Just as Sanders wouldn't be able to win if he got the nomination and the party remained divided.

Neither of our candidates can win if we stay divided. Either can win if we stay together.

The repubs are coming apart at the seams. If Trump gets the nomination, there will be large numbers of repubs who will sit on their hands, particularly in the more essential purple states.

Look at Virginia. Even though repub turnout was higher than Democratic turnout, Clinton got more votes than Trump.

Yes, Clinton will lose the South as would Bernie -- which one would lose by less would depend on AA turnout in the South. But she is just as capable of winning the purple states against Trump as Bernie is.

[That Guy 888]

7. Someone should have told Clinton, before she hired Brock

and had DWS rig the primary in her favor...

and implied that that all Sanders supporters are racist...

and implied that all Sanders supporters are sexist man (and the little ladies that love them)...

etc. etc.

[Jester Messiah]

12. Yeah, that's not happening. n/t

[peacebird]

23. Nope, agree with you.

[randome]

26. A 'revolutionary' who doesn't work well with others. Way to help out!

It seems to me that when the going gets tough, the tough need to get whatever they can for the good of the many. Whatever else you think of Clinton, she will bring, at the very least, incremental progress toward Progressive goals.

But maybe it's not enough to work with a group and not get everything you wanted.

It certainly isn't the same for most Clinton supporters. Most don't have the slightest problem with supporting Sanders should he win the nomination.
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[Jester Messiah]

32. Neither is it revolutionary to vote for a counter-revolutionary. No sale. n/t

[Nuclear Unicorn]

20. "if the Sanders and Clinton supporters come together after the convention"

Which Sanders supporters? The ones being tarred as racists? Why should they support those accusing them of racism? Why should the accusers want the support of those they accuse?

[onenote]

21. For the same reason that Clinton supporters who don't like the way they've been treated

and the names that they've been called should come together with Sanders supporters if he gets the nomination.

If Trump gets the nomination (or for that matter any of the repub candidates), there are really three options for the supporters of whichever candidate doesn't get the nomination:

You can say you want Trump to win the presidency. In which case you actively support him. I don't believe there is anyone at DU that would follow that course.

You can say you don't want Trump to win the presidency. In which case you vote for the one candidate that has a chance of defeating him (even though that candidate isn't the one you supported in the primaries).

Or you can say you don't care whether Trump wins the presidency or not. In which case you don't vote for Trump or the Democratic nominee.

The problem is that the third choice is enabling a Trump win.

Its as if you saw someone breaking into a neighbor's house. You can say you want the break in to occur and go help. You can say you don't want it occur and actively engage to prevent it. Or you can say you don't care and go inside your house and close the blinds. The problem with the third approach is that the break in occurs.

So folks really have to ask themselves do they want to enable a Trump presidency or not. And that goes for supporters of Clinton as much as it goes for supporters of Sanders.

[DCBob]

8. Nonsense.

Latest polling has Hillary winning... and that's before any targeted ads against the vile, vulgar, sexist megalomaniac.

[Nitram]

14. No, peacebird, it isn't that simple.

Clinton will beat Trump handily.

[peacebird]

22. LOL!

[tgards79]

18. This is absurd.

Trump will be lucky to get 20% of the Hispanic vote and 3% of African Americans, and there ain't enough uneducated white men - Trump's base - to overcome that.

[cwydro]

25. Nonsense.

Even the Republicans think Hillary will beat Trump.

That's why they're so terrified.

[Nitram]

28. Exactly.

the reason Republicans have completely ignored Sanders is that they are more worried about Clinton. If Sanders starts to win, that will change, of course. If.+

[Xipe Totec]

2. This is a definition of lock I wasn't aware of

The Democratic nominee needs 2,382 out of the available 4,763 to win.

Last I checked she doesn't have that many delegates.

[tgards79]

3. Read the article and follow the math...

...it is all about the math.

[Xipe Totec]

4. Center yourself in the present and use words correctly

You can talk all you want about advantages, but as of this moment, in the present, where most people live, she does not have a "lock" on the nomination.

[hack89]

6. If you understand what Bernie has to do to win the nomination

then it is pretty clear Clinton will win. Bernie is not all of a sudden going to start winning big states by 30-40 point margins - but that is what he has to do.

[tgards79]

9. What planet do most people of these people live on?

She has a total lock. Barring FBI. That is your only hope. Stop being in denial. Do the math yourself. You really think Bernie can win every remaining state 60/40? Do the work yourself if you don't believe me. Did you read the article?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. She is at 66% or 2/1 at predictwise.

Does Trump's unpredictability and potential to poach white working class voters give you any pause at all ?

I believe this will be mitigated by moderate Republican women who are turned off by Trump's faux macho posturing, and will vote for Hillary.

[tgards79]

31. The article said she was a lock to win the nomination...

...not the general election. Although I think she will win that too.

[MillennialDem]

13. Sure he can. It's unlikely but primaries can absolutely run away. It's not like a general election

where each side is virtually guaranteed 45% of the vote.

[tgards79]

19. I'm sorry but you are delusional.

There is zero chance Bernie will "run away" with the rest of the primary season, winning by 30 points. She beat him in Massachusetts, for goodness sake!

[Trajan]

27. I live on the planet DU

It's a planet where tgard79 doesn't exist ...

Gone ...

[NurseJackie]

10. A very REALISTIC and LOGICAL summary.

[Nitram]

15. It all adds up.

[Octafish]

16. It must be Hillary Clinton's turn.

She has been prepping for this since Goldwater was running.

She's ready, a bit tired perhaps, but certainly willing and able.

[SidDithers]

17. DU rec for all kinds of reasons...nt

Sid

[Garrett78]

24. Clinton is definitely a lock. Trump isn't yet.

Clinton is winning states that she lost in '08, and she has many Clinton-friendly states upcoming (some of which she lost in '08 and some of which she won--and many of them have a high number of delegates). So, yes, the Dem race is - for all intents and purposes - over.

For Trump, much hinges on the big winner-take-all states, most notably Florida and Ohio. If the Republicans can keep him from getting a majority of the delegates, while still claiming a plurality, they can nominate someone else at the convention. The danger there, of course, is that Trump could run as a 3rd party candidate. Either way, there's a reason the oddsmakers say Clinton is by far the most likely person to become the next POTUS.

[thereismore]

29. Ther fact that you have to explain this AFTER Super Tuesday tells me she is NOT a lock.

[Scurrilous]

30. K & R