How do Clinton supporters feel about her war criminal supporters and

[pdsimdars]

the guy who started Project for a New American Century saying that Hillary's views are the most in alignment with theirs so they'd prefer her to be President. Presumably so they could have more wars.
And then there's the war criminal Kissinger who supports her and she is chummy with.
What to her supporters think about this? No problem. War is good? What?

[Buzz Clik]

1. "War criminal supporters". The new meme for Campaign Desperation.

So tiresome.

[pdsimdars]

11. We hate to disturb you with something so mundane as needless death and suffering

but to some people, they are things to think about.
It is hard for me to understand people who are so callous and uncaring that they think that war and the needless suffering and death are "tiresome".
But that seems to be the typical Hill-bot response. . dodge the issue.
And look at that , you have a picture of a Saint. HA! That's rich. A saint who doesn't give a sh*t about others. Too, too typical.

[Buzz Clik]

16. Great logic: If A and B then grapefruit.

Starting a war or maintaining a war is not a war crime. Period.

Calling someone a war criminal is a very specific charge with specific requirements, and starting a war is not one of them.

It is not the discussion of needless wars or the unnecessary suffering I find tiresome; it's the endless tossing out of "war criminal" as if being a war criminal was no different than having a difference in opinion.

But that seems to be the typical Hill-bot response. . dodge the issue.

How sweet. Not only are you ignorant of what constitutes a war crime; not only do you twist my words; but, you insult me, too.

Thanks. I'd expect nothing less.

[guillaumeb]

26. Were the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children as a result of Clinton era sanctions a war crime?

I await your response.

[Buzz Clik]

42. No.

[pdsimdars]

36. Kissinger is a war criminal . . .

[Buzz Clik]

38. LOL!

He's a war criminal because... he was convicted of war crimes?

No, that's not it?

[hack89]

2. We love and embrace them.

[navarth]

3. In my opinion it's a mixture

A significant percentage just want a woman in there. Period. I've run into it personally. One of my wife's best friends is over at the house all the time; hell, she's my friend too. She says "It's time we had a woman in there" and I simply say "gender over policy eh?" and I have to leave it alone because she's a friend and a guest in my house. I don't say out loud how fucking STUPID that is and why not vote for fucking Sarah Palin then? Because it would just hurt her feelings.

Another percentage is just plain nuts. They believe in the Clintons after all the evidence that they should entertain some doubts about it. The record speaks for itself.

The rest of them...maybe they're just paid. I don't know.

[Buzz Clik]

7. Excellent analysis!

We support Hillary because:

Because HRC is a woman and no other reason

We are insane

We are getting paid.

Well done!



I mean, it could have nothing to do with, say, being well informed and making a choice based on judgment.

[navarth]

14. Thanks!

I don't think my analysis is by any means complete, but the elements I have observed are inescapable.

It continues to amaze me how people can be relatively well-informed and yet vote against their interests. And to be inclusive with your comments, I should add poor judgement as an additional cause.

By all means, fell free to add to the list. No congratulations necessary, but thanks just the same. I would return your animated icon salute, but I think they're kinda stupid. But that's just my personal preference, not really an issue.

[Buzz Clik]

18. "but the elements I have observed are inescapable." Uh, yeah.

Inescapable if you are the only one capable of forming an opinion and/or anyone with a different opinion is misguided, insane, or paid off.

Inescapable. Kinda like a vinyl record with a scratch...

[navarth]

19. Ah yes!

I think you're starting to get it.

When you see something with your own eyes, and hear things with your own ears, they're inescapable. Well done! Can we count on your vote for Bernie then?

[Buzz Clik]

20. Whatever.

You stick to your opinions and convince yourself everyone else is wrong. You'll be happier that way.

[navarth]

22. So you agree that voting based on gender

is stupid? Or did you vote for McCain to get Palin in there? Inquiring minds want to know.

[Buzz Clik]

23. I don't agree with anything you said. I'm done here.

[navarth]

24. Tragic.

If it was Elizabeth Warren or ANY woman with INTEGRITY we wouldn't have an argument.

[pdsimdars]

37. You are brilliant, sir!

[navarth]

52. nah.

I just care about integrity and am quite sick of the lesser of evils.

But thanks for the nice thought. Go Bernie!

[Thinkingabout]

4. No different than Sanders supporters feel about and supporters he has.

It is a not issue with me, it does not affect her candidacy and abilities to be president.

[pdsimdars]

12. Yes a lot of thoughtless people don't seem to care if we bomb and kill others

as long as it doesn't mess up their neighborhood.
Too bad you can't imagine what a mess it causes in other peoples' lives.
Total lack of compassion. . . but who cares.
she is a war hawk.

[Thinkingabout]

15. Your post did not change my mind. I am concerned about the people's lives which are lost

to gun violence, a lack of compassion to the families of those who have lost members, it causes a big mess in their lives. More lives are lost daily in the US than is lost in bombs.

[azurnoir]

27. Anti-Gun Hillary Clinton Is Taking Money From NRA Lobbyists

The Huffington Post reports that Jeff Forbes will host a fundraiser for the Hillary Clinton campaign. That probably wouldn’t mean much, but Forbes used to be a lobbyist for the hated NRA. From 2009 to 2015 Forbes was a registered lobbyist for one of Hillary’s biggest enemies. This is a person who lobbied lawmakers to reject harebrained liberal gun control proposals like the ones that Hillary wants to implement.

But wait, Hillary’s optics get worse. While Forbes was still registered as a lobbyist for the NRA Institute, he donated $2,700 to gun-hatin’ Hillary. In addition, Elizabeth Greer, another registered NRA lobbyist, gave $2,700 for Hillary’s presidential bid.

This gun-friendly fundraiser will take place on March 21st and tickets run from $1,000 to $5,000. Attendees will get to have lunch with UFO conspiracy theorist John Podesta. Actually Podesta used to be hubby Bill’s Chief of Staff and he is currently Hillary’s campaign manager. This leads me to believe that everyone at Camp Hillary is on board with raising money through an ex-NRA lobbyist.

http://downtrend.com/71superb/anti-gun-hillary-clinton-is-taking-money-from-nra-lobbyists

[Thinkingabout]

32. Yes, Forbes used to be a lobbyists for the NRA

The Huffington Post reports that Jeff Forbes will host a fundraiser for the Hillary Clinton campaign. That probably wouldn’t mean much, but Forbes used to be a lobbyist for the hated NRA. From 2009 to 2015 Forbes was a registered lobbyist for one of Hillary’s biggest enemies. This is a person who lobbied lawmakers to reject harebrained liberal gun control proposals like the ones that Hillary wants to implement.

Hillary did not get a $18,000 donation to help defeat an opponent when getting elected to Congress and vote five times against the Brady Bill. I n fact Hillary supported the passing of the Brady Bill though not having a vote.

[azurnoir]

34. ever hear of the Violence against Women act? apparently not also Elizabeth Greer NRA Lobbyist

Elizabeth Greer, another registered NRA lobbyist, gave $2,700 for Hillary’s presidential bid.

[Thinkingabout]

35. Yes I have heard about the Violence Against Women act, I have also heard from Mothers

who has lost children from gun violence. Five times Sanders voted against the Brady Bill.

[azurnoir]

45. and when has he accepted money from the NRA's lobby?

[Thinkingabout]

46. Never said that, go back and read again.

[azurnoir]

47. I read it the first time :)

[earthside]

28. Oh, really?

NRA Lobbyist Will Co-Host Hillary Clinton Fundraiser
https://theintercept.com/2016/03/01/nra-lobbyist-will-co-host-clinton-fundraiser/

Hillary on gun safety is just like Hillary on everything else ... political expediency but always, always go for the money.



I know .... "It Just Doesn't Matter!"

[pdsimdars]

39. Oh, so it's only American lives that are important to you, kind of narrow minded and hearted

[Thinkingabout]

41. They are not any less important than others, just more are losing their lives to gun

violence, happens every day, no, not narrow minded, my compassion is not limited to only gun violence victims and their families. Are you an American?

[jillan]

21. Shock and Awe. PNAC. Dems used to despise

This cowboy mentality.
If this is now acceptable then it's true. The Democratic Party no longer represents me.

[Thinkingabout]

25. Voting against sensible gun control is not progressive.

[pdsimdars]

40. Wish Hillary supporters had curious and balanced minds

if they did they might want to look past the talking points put out by her campaign and see what the reality of the situation was. But I guess if Hillary puts it out, good enough, eh?

[jillan]

48. Neither is having the NRA fund your campaign.

[Thinkingabout]

49. Yes, we know especially after NRA donates money to defeat one's opponent and the then the

person votes five times against the Brady Bill, have you an example where Hillary has been influenced by the NRA? There was more than one occasion where Sanders voted the way the NRA wanted.

[jillan]

53. Here

https://theintercept.com/2016/03/01/nra-lobbyist-will-co-host-clinton-fundraiser/

Bernie has always supported a ban on assault rifles which cost him an election in Vermont.
He supports background checks & wants them increased getting rid of the gunshow & online loophole.
He has a D- rating from the NRA.

Bernie represents Vermont, a state that is mostly rural where its citizens enjoy hunting, fishing.
Being a Congressman from Vermont (which he was at the time of the vote) is not the same as being a congressman from New York or other state with more populated cities.
Just as being a representative from Wyoming is not the same as being a rep from California.

People in rural areas use guns for sport.
People in higher populated areas use guns as weapons.

[Thinkingabout]

54. It is a part of his record of five times voting against the Brady Bill. He does not deny

His votes nor does it benefit him to deny the votes. Too many senseless gun violence deaths in the US and he also voted against the funding for research by CDC.

[EndElectoral]

5. Be careful, they'll accuse you of being a right wing troll.

On the other hand, kissinger...now there's a right wing troll.

[Dustlawyer]

6. Like Trump supporters, many overlook anything not positive about her.

They can justify anything she has done. Some are bothered by it, but believe she is the best chance to keep the WH. I believe they are afraid to fight for the REAL CHANGE Bernie has in store for this country.

[Buzz Clik]

9. I know! Hillary consorts with war criminals and the most corrupt humans in the history of the planet

But, Bernie is perfect in every way.

How could anyone support Hillary?

Thank God for DU! I would be incapable of sentient thought without it.

[pdsimdars]

13. by your responses you show that you are incalable of sentient thought

[Buzz Clik]

17. I'm incalable (sic)?

Wow. Yet another insult from you in less than 10 minutes.

Keep 'em coming. We're seeing just how caring and thoughtful the Sanders crew can be!

[pdsimdars]

43. Caring and thoughtful . . . .

And you support a war hawk who is pleased to be endorsed by a war criminal . . . .
That won't get you any closer to that sainthood you try to impersonate

[Buzz Clik]

44. I love having a little shadow. You're adorable.

[earthside]

29. Bernie is not perfect.

And you just don't see that kind of cult of personality worship amongst most of his supporters.

Sanders supporters are nearly always about advancing and defending on issues.

But follow a few HRC Group threads and you'll be nearly nauseated by the 'love' emojis, idealized photos of Hillary, and the proclamations of love.

[Buzz Clik]

33. "And you just don't see that kind of cult of personality worship amongst most of his supporters."

Oh, god. That is so funny. Laughing so hard, I can hardly breathe.

The Sanders crowd is not a "cult of personality worship"?

[Dustlawyer]

50. It's a bunch of pissed off Americans who are tired of

political corruption screwing us over. Hillary is the poster child for this type of corruption.

[artislife]

30. Sadly, yes. nt

[BeyondGeography]

10. Flamebait needs some flame

[Cheese Sandwich]

31. They aren't troubled by it. Some people believe whatever they want regardless of facts

[WDIM]

51. She is a war criminal

Approving arms deals to murderers couldnt be more of a war criminal than that. She approved more weapon sales to dictators than Condi Rice.

[John Poet]

55. They DON'T CARE!

Maybe that means they are neo-conservatives themselves.

Maybe Hillary will pick Jeb Bush for Vice President.

[treestar]

56. What are the details here?

We are judging people by their associations now? Or by what other people have said about them? He said, she said, oh my god! We are in high school.