I'll just put this right here...

[Bubzer]

[giftedgirl77]

1. It's a tie!

[tk2kewl]

2. far from over

I think that's the message

[Bubzer]

12. Exactly!

[wendylaroux]

3. this makes more Bernie people not vote hillary if nominated,you know that right? nt

[jeff47]

4. Nononono. See, it's petty and vindictive and wrong when a Sanders supporter

says Clinton supporters are driving them way.

It's a huge problem that all Sanders supporters, and Sanders himself, must address if Sanders supporters are driving Clinton supporters away.

Since this is the former, we're wrong to have it affect us in any way.

( )

[wendylaroux]

9. makes you wonder,who's side are they really on?

[giftedgirl77]

5. Lol, I'm very flattered that you give me so much power.

[wendylaroux]

7. ok lol,carry on. nt

[Bubzer]

13. Tons! One vote and one dollar go a long way! Just ask Maddie!

[tk2kewl]

10. I base my vote on the candidates, their records, and their policies.

nothing more.

how their supporters behave have zero to do with how i view the candidates, unless they are engaging the issues.

[wendylaroux]

11. me too,many don't. nt

[NCTraveler]

25. I can't imagine the mentality of someone who wouldn't go vote for Clinton because of that.

I can't wrap my head around that. Are there really people like that out there? They don't travel in my circle.

[wendylaroux]

28. of course there are people like tha,.takes all kinds etc. etc. nt

[Jack Rabbit]

30. I don't see the connection

If Mrs. Clinton appears to many Democrats and independents as not worthy of one's vote, that's her own doing. It has nothing to do with the current delegate count or how the corrupt MSM reports it.

We Sandernistas don't put any stock in anything the MSM says and we know that no superdelegate is committed until he actually votes at the convention.

I think Hillary Clinton will make a poor president. I think that Donald Trump will make a disastrous president. I've voted for the lesser of two evils before, and I will this time, too. However, since I don't think Mrs. Clinton would want me ringing doorbells or making phone calls for her feeling about her as I do, between the convention in August and the election in November I will just sit down and shut up.

I hope the folks in Camp Weathervane are happy with that.

After the election, I will return to railing against the failed neoliberal/trickle down/really fucked up policies that benefit Wall Street and impoverished the rest of us since it was called Reaganomics. I am willing to put my body on the gears of the odious machine in order to grind it to a halt, and I will join any suitable assembly that promotes that cause.

Power to the People.

[Javaman]

34. +1000 nt

[NurseJackie]

17. Well... if you don't include the SOUTH, Bernie is WINNING!!!

[Bubzer]

21. Yeah... thats almost as good as: Hilllary won the south... Bernie should give up!

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[Ferd Berfel]

24. NEWSFLASH: Most of the US is not the Deep South, and Sanders is winning outside of Dixie

Hillary has peaked. It's Bernies Turn now.


NEWSFLASH: Most of the US is not the Deep South, and Sanders is winning outside of Dixie
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1403548


Outside of the Deep-Red Southern States, Sanders is winning. By wide margins, Sanders has won 5 of 8 states outside of Dixie, and Clinton's 3 wins have been dirty and very narrow:

[giftedgirl77]

26. News Flash!!!

HRC is kicking ass in other places as well.

[fun n serious]

38. And HERE it is....

Again and again... dismissing the " southern vote"

This is shameful!

[merrily]

29. I guess you need that emote badly? Other than you, no one said it was a tie.

[amborin]

6. Huge K&R 20% versus 29% CLOSE!!!!!! DEspite the Media Meme!

[FourScore]

8. Does anyone have any info on how the media portrated the super delegate count in the past?

Did they just go right ahead and factor it in like they've been doing this election cycle, or did they wait until the convention like it was intended?

[jeff47]

14. It was mentioned as an afterthought.

Along the lines of "Here's the delegate score." (Discussion about the delegate score). "And here's how the superdelegates affect that score." (more discussion, usually including the fact that superdelegate votes are not "locked in&quot

[Stallion]

16. It Was Less Important Because the Super Delegates Were Split

This year the Super Delegates (mostly Democratic officeholders) are stating in no uncertain terms-DO NOT put a Democratic Socialist at the top of the ticket. Guess what so are the voters and especially registered Democrats who support Clinton in OVERWHELMING numbers

[jeff47]

18. Nope. 2008 Superdelegates started overwhelmingly for Clinton too. (nt)

[merrily]

31. The delegate vote was very heavy for Hillary early in the 2008 primary.

[Stallion]

41. Here Are the 2008 Super Delegetes With Dates Pledged-Bernie is Far Behind Obama

look for especially elected officials in purple (representing Obama). By this time Obama had plenty of elected Democratic officeholders wanting him to run at the top of the ticket. Sanders has only a handful and he never will get Democratic Officeholders to run a ticket with a Democratic Socialist at the top


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_superdelegates,_2008

[FourScore]

44. I'm just curious...If Bernie were to actually win the popular vote,

what do you think the superdelegates should do?

[Stallion]

42. 2016 Super Delegetes-Bernie has only 6 Governors/Senators/Representatives Supporting Him

Sanders is FAR behind the pace of Obama

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_superdelegates,_2016

[merrily]

43. Did I say otherwise? If you're proud that the fix is so apparently in for Hillary,

you've lost your way.

[FourScore]

45. +1

[Stallion]

47. The Rule is Put In so Democratic Candidates with Democratic Values Get the Nomination

This is not a federal election-its the election of a private political party. There is no constitutional right to vote in a particular party. Here's the truth-if only Democrats voted then Clinton would win 2-1. She represents Democratic values-not the Greens or Naderites or Libertarians, Socialists or third party liberals. The Democratic Party as evidenced by its elected officials and officeholders has a right to run based on Democratic Party principals. Any voter has a right to vote for a candidate of any party he wishes including for example the Libertarians, Green or Socialists. you have a right to reject the Democratic Party if you wish-but you don't have a right to dictate the principals of how a private political party should be run. When a segment of a voting block doesn't feel a Party represents their views they can rally around the views of a new or different Party. When 98% of officeholders are supporting Clinton then its quite clear that the vast majority support the Democratic values of that candidate-not Bernie Sanders-which should not be a great surprise since Bernie himself considered himself a Democratic Socialist-not a Democrat

[Bubzer]

48. Are kidding me?

She doesn't HAVE democratic values! She's republican lite! She's pro corporations, and fuck the little guy!

Democratic values, my fuzzy-backside... Christ.

Is it a democratic value to capitulate to republicans when they want a war, without even so much as reading the report about it?
Is it a democratic value to take money from foreign interests in exchange for special favors while being SoS?
Is it a democratic value to take money from banks... for any reason at all, given the KNOWN expected quid-pro-quo?!?!?
Is it a democratic value to blatantly use all manner of dirty tricks to manipulate and stifle voter turnout?!?!?

The answer is an obvious HELL NO!!!

Here's a whole host of other reasons she lacks any form of democratic values:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511403329
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511317433

Unless you're calling outright corruption, gamesmanship, manipulation, willingness to accept bribes, and corporate collusion, "Democratic Values" You're WAY off base!

[Stallion]

49. Obviously It's YOU That is Out of Touch With Democratic Party Values

after all you are supporting a candidate that only became a Democrat months ago. In fact, among registered Democrats Clinton beats Bernie 2-1. Whose not in touch with the majority of the Democratic Party? Are you kiddin' me? DU is not reality

[Bubzer]

50. Uhuh, right. Cause, ya know... words speak louder than actions....right?

Oh wait... THEY DON'T! So you're argument is full of shit!! AND you didn't refute the lists I provided... because you can't.

[Stallion]

53. Votes Speak Louder than Words

nm

[Bubzer]

54. Yes, they do! Such as Hillary's vote FOR the iraq war.

[forjusticethunders]

60. So the "left" party in America

is a conservative market fundamentalist party, right?

[merrily]

55. Sanders is the only candidate running on traditional Democratic values. Thanks, anyway.

[Bubzer]

15. Here's a few links

http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/delegate-count-tracker
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results

Looks like they just added them in.

[erlewyne]

19. Turn OFF the corporate media.

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I do.

I am voting for BERNIE SANDERS !!!

[Mira]

20. Do all that and donate

The MSM is now paying attention to Sanders by saying: "He is awash in money"

If that's how they chose to categorize him, that works for me. Let's keep him afloat. It does not take much from you, but collectively we can make it happen

[merrily]

32. His money is from humans. What is really awash in millions? HRC's Super PACs

[jalan48]

22. I bet the Republicans adopt the "Super Delegate" strategy next time around.

It's a democracy until........

[Faux pas]

27. Kicketty Kickin'

[passiveporcupine]

33. Every time I look at the nubmers, like during the primary results coming in

I just automatically delete the super delegates. It was very encouraging to see Bernie's numbers getting closer and closer to Hillary's as the night went on.

And one thing I won't do any more is let the pundits and news crews dismay me. They are all biased.

[Uncle Joe]

35. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Bubzer.

[Chichiri]

36. From what states will Bernie make up the difference? nt

[George II]

37. Big difference between now and 2008 - Clinton has won and will win the People's Vote.

Remember, Maine is about Sanders' last best chance for finishing first in a primary.

[Rider3]

39. A quote from Bernie

I was at the rally last Monday night at the Milton (MA) High School. Bernie said that he keeps hearing that he's thinking too big. His reply was great: "If you ask for a half a loaf of bread, you'll get crumbs. But, if you ask for a whole loaf of bread, maybe you'll get half a loaf." He's right. Vote Bernie.

[Beacool]

40. I have no doubt that Hillary will be well ahead in pledged delegates after March 15.

That does not mean that Sanders should be pushed out. He has a right to stay in the race until June. It's his prerogative. If it becomes evident that there's no way for him to catch up on delegates, the party may ask him to tone down his attacks on Hillary and pivot to attacking Trump, but the party leadership won't ask him to drop out. His voters and the enthusiasm that he has generated will be needed in November. When I sincerely hope that we will be united to defeat Trump.

[jtuck004]

46. K&R n/t

[Jester Messiah]

51. Screw the doom 'n gloom'ers.

They're either liars or under the sway of liars.

[Bubzer]

52. +1

[southerncrone]

56. K & R

Wish I could recommend this 1000 times! BOOOOM!

[Bread and Circus]

57. Wow! Huge K and R.

[Ino]

58. Here's a tracker...

that enumerates how many of the total delegates are superdelegates...
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-delegate-tracker/

[BigBearJohn]

59. Thanks so much for this post. Please re-post it every 5 days.

[andrewv1]

61. Agreed...They would love to get Bernie out early & I think part of their rationale

is if Hillary is the only one left in the Democratic race, the authorities are less likely to recommend an indictment coming her way.

Not gonna happen....

[BigBearJohn]

62. The uproar about HRC being indicted is getting louder & louder. Soon it will erupt like a volcano.

[andrewv1]

63. Notice that there are no National Polls out there on whether to Indict or Not....

The American Public certainly has a good idea of what happened & even though we don't have details, there's enough to at least have an opinion.

But I would guess the Establishment knows already what the numbers would be, since their Money is now completely on her because of the downfall of "Little Marco" & they would like to keep it quiet.

The Young Turks did a piece on this yesterday & brought up a scenario of a "what if" Bernie was under FBI Investigation & the reaction in turn, of the MSM; I wish someone would post that clip....

[kath]

64. Please do as someone else suggested, and repost the REAL delegate count every few days.

fuck the M$M and HRH campaign for their blatant distortions.