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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 02:56 PM Mar 2016

‘Warren is a Wuss’: Bernie Sanders Fans Turn on Elizabeth Warren For Not Endorsing



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by Tommy Christopher
10:07 am, March 3rd, 2016


With the Republican presidential primary devolving into a Jerry Springer episode shot on location at the Thunderdome, it’s easy to forget the sundry internal dramas playing out among Democrats. While there’s an obvious split between the Obama coalition that largely supports Hillary Clinton and the progressiver-than-thou wing that supports Bernie Sanders, there now appears to be a schism-within-a-schism developing between Sanders supporters and progressive saint Senator Elizabeth Warren.

At issue is Warren’s failure to endorse Bernie Sanders ahead of Super Tuesday, which supporters feel could have delivered Sanders a victory in the closely-fought Massachusetts primary. RawStory’s TBogg collected some Bernie fans’ reactions from Warren’s Facebook page:

Your unwillingness to endorse Bernie prior to Super Tuesday indicates to me that your fear of pressure from Hillary friends on Capitol Hill “trumps” your commitment to the progressive cause. I have lost faith in you and the DNC.

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Is she really part of the establishment? How can she, as a representative of the people, as a self proclaimed progressive, not publicly endorse Bernie Sanders? Do you think she owes Clinton some political favors? hmmmm.


With every day that passes without your endorsement of Sanders, Wall Street rejoices, and the corporate owned Hillary Clinton is validated. Shame on you.


Sen Warren let all of the progressives down and the country by not endorsing us before Super Tuesday. With her help, we could have and should have won Mass. Why and what does she have up her sleeve???


Karl Rove’s money? Are you smoking crack? I love Elizabeth and would have supported her over Bernie had she chose to run, but I am deeply disappointed in her for not supporting Bernie when it mattered. She will lose ALL credibility if she supports Hillary at any point as Shillary is tied to Wall Street.


You have let all progressives down. Sanders can still win, but if he doesn’t that’s on you. And when Trump defeats Clinton that will be on you too. You’re a sellout. Your endorsement will not save Clinton and we will not vote for her. It’s worthless now
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Warren is a wuss. Her silence will not be forgotten.


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‘Warren is a Wuss’: Bernie Sanders Fans Turn on Elizabeth Warren For Not Endorsing (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 OP
Some horrible, SNARLING HATE on her fb web page! I was -- quite frankly -- stunned. MADem Mar 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Mar 2016 #5
Look, I don't know who you are and I know nothing about your other post. MADem Mar 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Mar 2016 #25
Who ARE you, to talk about MY "tactics?" I think you're way out of line. MADem Mar 2016 #29
Boy, they sure turn on you quick. Guess they'll be outta here quick too if Sanders loses. brush Mar 2016 #28
Ain't THAT the truth! nt MADem Mar 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Mar 2016 #2
I've lost count. They are looking desperate. MelissaB Mar 2016 #8
SHORT ANSWER: THEY DON'T KNOW. Raster Mar 2016 #11
Go to the fb page, and click on the links of the people who are MADem Mar 2016 #14
It's not as easy to hide one's identity on FaceBook as you might think. yardwork Mar 2016 #39
Anybody can claim to be somebody else. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #3
Please stop perpetuating the lie-based talking points CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #4
oooh! Today is Bernie's supporters are mean to Warren!" day. djean111 Mar 2016 #6
Clinton Campers working hard to alienate Sanders supporters. Warren Stupidity Mar 2016 #7
Meme marching orders UglyGreed Mar 2016 #9
Amazing that the hatred is coming from shielded FB accounts: Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #10
When you can afford to smear the very best... Octafish Mar 2016 #12
Pay-Pal posters, Bullhorn Bill, Bullshit Brock, DINO-Debbie, Afterlife Albright, Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #16
No, it's not. A lot of those accounts are open, at least when it comes to their MADem Mar 2016 #15
For "at least" read "only" Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #17
Go click. I'm not going to post people's fb accounts for you. MADem Mar 2016 #18
Yeah, is this also where the "BerniBros" are coming from? mindwalker_i Mar 2016 #19
Just one? Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #20
I was trying to be polite mindwalker_i Mar 2016 #21
Hot air is all they have to offer. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #23
the kind Bernie Supporters claimed proved union members didn't agree with endorsements? wyldwolf Mar 2016 #33
Sounds like "One bitter angry Bernie fan turns on Warren". Arkana Mar 2016 #22
No, there are quite a few there. MADem Mar 2016 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Mar 2016 #26
Why don't YOU give it up. If you don't like the thread, trash it, rather than MADem Mar 2016 #31
My guess is paid operatives who have nothing to do with Bernie. From day one, a false narrative has merrily Mar 2016 #27
LOL. I was about to predict someone would claim 'paid operatives.' wyldwolf Mar 2016 #32
Okay, interns and volunteers, then. Word is, she pays the lower echelons lousy, if at all, anyway. merrily Mar 2016 #34
Something that a person likes is always posted by supporters; something that MADem Mar 2016 #36
Someone said something stupid on facebook! STOP THE PRESSES! CALL THE POLICE! ALERT THE FEDS! Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #35
This is just awful DesertRat Mar 2016 #37
Out comes the fainting couch. Orsino Mar 2016 #38
Lol ibegurpard Mar 2016 #40

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. Some horrible, SNARLING HATE on her fb web page! I was -- quite frankly -- stunned.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 02:58 PM
Mar 2016

I suspect she's going to give her vote to the winner of the MA primary. Had it been Sanders, he would have gotten it. But he didn't win. So she'll probably give it to HRC.

She's not the only super to have played it this way.

Of course, we won't know until she says.

Gotta say, she's got some Fair Weather Fans, doesn't she?

Response to MADem (Reply #1)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
13. Look, I don't know who you are and I know nothing about your other post.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:23 PM
Mar 2016

I am responding to the thread starter, not you.

And accusing me of "inflating probable BS?" Who died and made YOU the arbiter of what is factual and what is not? The person doing the "inflating" --to say nothing of instigating--here isn't me. It's you, with your spurious and unfounded accusations.

Tell ya what--you can research this yourself. You can go to the fb page in question, here:

https://www.facebook.com/ElizabethWarren/posts/10153551144658687

and then you can click on the links to the pages of the people protesting, and you can find out where their loyalties lie.

You might not like the results.

Response to MADem (Reply #13)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
29. Who ARE you, to talk about MY "tactics?" I think you're way out of line.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:24 PM
Mar 2016

You jumped all over me, and you've got the brass to say such a thing?

Maybe you should visit the fb page and the pages of the people making the comments before you start lecturing people you don't even know.

smh!

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Raster

(20,998 posts)
11. SHORT ANSWER: THEY DON'T KNOW.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:06 PM
Mar 2016

And it when it comes to posting spurious, half-truths to stir the pot...

MADem

(135,425 posts)
14. Go to the fb page, and click on the links of the people who are
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:25 PM
Mar 2016

protesting Warren. That's how you find out.

No need to "wise up." Just pull that string. The first three I pulled led back to what appear, to my eye, to be COMMITTED Sanders supporters.

YMMV.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
39. It's not as easy to hide one's identity on FaceBook as you might think.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:48 PM
Mar 2016

We've been told all week that this attack on Elizabeth Warren is really a false flag operation by the Clinton people. That would be very difficult to achieve on FB, and really, why bother?

The likely truth is that these are Sanders supporters bullying Warren. If you don't think that's a good campaign strategy, talk to your candidate.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
3. Anybody can claim to be somebody else.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:01 PM
Mar 2016

I get fb friend requests from '18 yo hot women' looking for older men. LMAO.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
4. Please stop perpetuating the lie-based talking points
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:01 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie Sanders supporters, as a whole, support Elizabeth Warren and love Elizabeth Warren.

If there are authentic Bernie supporters doing this, they are outliers.

Every candidates has supporters who say incendiary things on the Internet. The comments of a few--out of millions--should not paint all of Sanders supporters.

And you perpetuating this...is not cool.

First it was BernieBros (name calling) and now this.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
6. oooh! Today is Bernie's supporters are mean to Warren!" day.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:03 PM
Mar 2016

What does that have to do with supporting Hillary over Bernie?

Like my thought process would be - oh, I hate war and fracking and cluster bombs and the TPP and increased H-1B visas and outrageous college debt, and Hillary is FOR all of those - BUT - I am told Bernie's supporters are being mean to someone on facebook! So I will just forget about all that war, etc. stuff, and support Hillary!

I hope to fuck that if I ever did do or say something like that, my family would just pull the plug, because I would have to be in some stage of dementia.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
10. Amazing that the hatred is coming from shielded FB accounts:
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:48 PM
Mar 2016

the kind that Brock pays to exist? Maybe he wants to divide Sanders supporters in order to conquer them? Not going to work.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
16. Pay-Pal posters, Bullhorn Bill, Bullshit Brock, DINO-Debbie, Afterlife Albright,
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:28 PM
Mar 2016

Sex-Shaming Steinem, Lying Lewis, McCarthy McCaskill ...

What a lovely smear-team the Clinton Coronation Committee is. Alliterating corruption is the best kind of corruption. And no-one can alliterate like the Cunning Clintons.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
15. No, it's not. A lot of those accounts are open, at least when it comes to their
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:27 PM
Mar 2016

political conversations. The bumper stickers, meme images, cheerleading signs, etc., are all there for you to see on many of those sites.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
17. For "at least" read "only"
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:30 PM
Mar 2016

the rest of the personae have yet to be created, I suppose.

As an amateur writer, I know how difficult it is to create hundreds of different (believable) characters.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
18. Go click. I'm not going to post people's fb accounts for you.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:36 PM
Mar 2016

Here's Warren's: https://www.facebook.com/ElizabethWarren/posts/10153551144658687

I think that anyone who believes that this is a Clinton plot needs to get a grip. This was a few jerks who are so blinded by their loyalty to Sanders that they think it "helps" to beat up on Warren, or "blame" her for Sanders losing MA. And that is what some of the people who visited her page are doing. There has been pushback against it by both Sanders and Clinton supporters since the story broke, but if you dig down, you can see that these are NOT "invented" web pages. Unless some of them were invented five, six, eight years ago. Gee, that's a DEEP conspiracy, there!


There's no upside to this devious master plan that some are imagining. If you have money to spend, you spend it on more sensible things than that.

smh.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
19. Yeah, is this also where the "BerniBros" are coming from?
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 05:33 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary has done some nasty-ass things this campaign, so I have a hard time putting it past her to hire either of these groups. I smell a rat, and I think it farted.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
20. Just one?
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 05:35 PM
Mar 2016

Wall street is full of rats, and Clinton is the piper leading our children their way. Just ask the millennials.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
24. No, there are quite a few there.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 06:17 PM
Mar 2016

And they're real.

They are getting some shade from people who disagree with them--some of them are doubling down.

Looks a bit like DU without the easy-on-the-eyes graphics.

Response to MADem (Reply #24)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
31. Why don't YOU give it up. If you don't like the thread, trash it, rather than
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:29 PM
Mar 2016

coming at me for responding to the thread starter (who wasn't YOU).

You've got a lot of nerve, running around trying to tell people what they are "allowed" to talk about. No one died and made you boss.

And if that's "fake mud," then Tough Mudder could run a race in it. And it's all YOUR team. Deal with it.

Maybe this time you'll mean it when you say farewell to me--you've done that twice in this thread alone.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
27. My guess is paid operatives who have nothing to do with Bernie. From day one, a false narrative has
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:05 PM
Mar 2016

been pushed about Bernie's supporters and coordinated with partisans in media, same as was pushed about Obama's supporters in 2008.

Same sh*t, same odor, different primary.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=104497

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=104509

http://jackpineradicals.org/showthread.php?3326-IGNORANT-Bernie-Bros-must-END-their-name-calling!!!&highlight=Boston+Globe (satire by Manny Goldstein, the artist formerly known as MannyGoldstein)

merrily

(45,251 posts)
34. Okay, interns and volunteers, then. Word is, she pays the lower echelons lousy, if at all, anyway.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 07:59 PM
Mar 2016

MADem

(135,425 posts)
36. Something that a person likes is always posted by supporters; something that
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:15 AM
Mar 2016

a person dislikes is always the fault of "paid operatives." LOL!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
35. Someone said something stupid on facebook! STOP THE PRESSES! CALL THE POLICE! ALERT THE FEDS!
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 08:03 PM
Mar 2016

FREAK THE FUCK OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Orsino

(37,428 posts)
38. Out comes the fainting couch.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:44 PM
Mar 2016

Yet I think that both Warren and Clinton have endured much worse from more meaningful attacks.

Fake scandal.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
40. Lol
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 02:46 AM
Mar 2016

If some idiots are trying to harass Elizabeth Warren about this she'll survive. She's a politician...she has thick skin. I'm glad she hasn't endorsed anyone. And if she endorsed Hillary tomorrow I would question her judgement on the matter but still regard her with a tremendous amount of respect. Endorsements have little to no influence on me.

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