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True or False? Most Clinton supporters assume she is lying about TPP and don't care (Original Post) DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 OP
False. Darb Mar 2016 #1
She wants the TPP RobertEarl Mar 2016 #12
I'm going with half-true. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #2
Really no concern to me when compared to sanders beachbum bob Mar 2016 #3
I understand that her position isn't important to you DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #9
lying about what about it? treestar Mar 2016 #4
Lying about not supporting it. DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #6
refreshing a little to read this treestar Mar 2016 #8
They don't care about the issue. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #5
Yup. She only said she didn't like it "as is". One tiny change and then she'll like it, again. (nt) w4rma Mar 2016 #7
"I am against the TPP while you have me on camera" PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #10
False. Im all for trade deals. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #11
I'm not asking whether any supporter is for or against the TTP DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #13
No, shes on record saying: JaneyVee Mar 2016 #15
All? Seriously? PaulaFarrell Mar 2016 #16
I don't have any false ideas that she is against... NCTraveler Mar 2016 #14
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
12. She wants the TPP
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 08:56 PM
Mar 2016

She helped put it together when she was SoS.

But now facing the Left and needing our votes, she turns and runs away.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
3. Really no concern to me when compared to sanders
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 05:43 PM
Mar 2016

Providing cover for gun industry... And his lame excuses

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
9. I understand that her position isn't important to you
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 08:51 PM
Mar 2016

My question is about whether you believe she's being honest about her position, not whether the TPP is an important issue for you.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
4. lying about what about it?
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 05:43 PM
Mar 2016

I think the TPP is just a hook people hang onto as part of the alleged big conspiracy against us all by the corporations. No, Obama and anyone else has no motive to purposely make deals that would hurt large numbers of voters economically. That's the value of a democracy.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
6. Lying about not supporting it.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 05:50 PM
Mar 2016

I'm not arguing the merits here, only her coming out against it during the campaign. Do her supporters believe she is really against it or do they assume she taking a position to help her with primary voters that will revert to her prior support of it once she is past the primaries. I assume they know it's not really her position and don't care, because they realize coming out against it helps her get elected.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. refreshing a little to read this
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 06:50 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/oct/13/hillary-clinton/what-hillary-clinton-really-said-about-tpp-and-gol/

That doesn't strike me as dishonesty. It's a big thing that probably had a lot of changes to it. I don't think a significant number of voters understand it that well or that their opposition is all that honest either. No reason for her to pretend to be against it and she obviously isn't against trade agreements in general. Some people make these hugely oversimplified assumptions that they are all evil things meant to damage most of the voters, as if anyone could win an election like that.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
5. They don't care about the issue.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 05:46 PM
Mar 2016

By the way Clinton didn't lie about TPP, did she?

All she said was she is against the TPP "today", and that was months ago.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
7. Yup. She only said she didn't like it "as is". One tiny change and then she'll like it, again. (nt)
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 05:56 PM
Mar 2016
 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
10. "I am against the TPP while you have me on camera"
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 08:54 PM
Mar 2016

Fixed that for her.

#ImWithTPP

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Hillary Rodham Clinton offered some revisionist history Tuesday night when insisting she's not a flip-flopper on a trade deal that she heartily promoted as secretary of state but turned against last week as a Democratic presidential candidate.

http://www.abc2news.com/news/political/ap-fact-check-clinton-revises-trade-history-in-dem-debate
 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
13. I'm not asking whether any supporter is for or against the TTP
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 09:36 PM
Mar 2016

You support the TPP. Your candidate is on record saying she does not. My question is to you believe that she's being truthful about opposing it.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
15. No, shes on record saying:
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 09:40 PM
Mar 2016

This current final version of the trade deal. You cant sustain an economy without renegotiating and opening up new markets.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
14. I don't have any false ideas that she is against...
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 09:40 PM
Mar 2016

The agreement in major part. I do believe she wants language changed.

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