2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf it's Trump v. Hillary, Trump will make a pitch for the millennials
There are a lot of millennials angry enough to oppose Hillary should she win the nomination. Many don't have the experience of struggle that older people have, so they are bewildered that Hillary has so much support from minority communities. Many of them, while sympathetic to minorities and knowing that Sanders would be the better choice, do not have any emotional investment in the minority communities. Many of them may not really understand the fear of Trump, what fascism really means, since that word is so far removed from their lives.
Thus, Trump could be appealing, since, like Bernie, he is anti-establishment. In fact, he is so anti-establishment that he is doing grave damage to the Republican Party. If you want an anti-establishment candidate and can't have Bernie, will Trump do? What does Trump need to do to woo the millennials if not to vote for him, at least to stay home? You know he will do something -- he might offer complete loan forgiveness for college students, for instance. He might say he's the only one left who will really take on Wall Street. And of course he'll promise to be the best president ever for people of color, and so on. Do you think he can woo many millennials? Do you think he can at least persuade them to stay home? I doubt he'll have much impact on millennials at DU, but what about the others?
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Would they support rescinding marriage equality? - that is what Trump wants
Would they support waterboarding and torture? - Trump wants that again
Would they support his new-found pro-life positions? deporting people, banning Muslims, lowering taxes on millionaires?
...and don't anyone say Hillary supports those things because it is a lie. a damn lie.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)say "No We Can't" for Hillary.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Vote2016
(1,198 posts)forjusticethunders
(1,151 posts)Millenials hate Hillary but they will do the Worm over molten lava to keep Trump out. I actually hate this meme where we Millenials and post-Millenials (who btw, are disproportionately POC who have even more to lose) are going to stay home and let Trump win just because the nom is Hilllary.
We're literally making memes about this guy having us running the Hunger Games by 2018 at BEST, and having us living out the Planet of the Apes at worst.
What scares me is that we're not AS scared of people like Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich (all of whom are nearly as crazy) because Trump is distracting everyone from how fucked up the rest of the GOP field is.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)I'll write in and be done with it.
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)ticker results in a GOP victory. We should learn from 2000, when Nader voters who thought they would make a statement "and be done with it" played right into the election of GWBush and the ensuing Iraq War, waterboarding, Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, the Alito-Roberts Supreme Court Appointments, undermining voting rights, intimidation of climate scientists, tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, heckuva-job-Brownie appointments of incompetents undercutting the effectiveness of everything from FEMA to the USDA, collapse of the economy, and so much more. If you are in a position of such privilege that none of this will affect you, and you don't really care how any of it affects everyone else, I suppose you will rationalize your choice to "be done with it."
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Progressive ideas win.
andrewv1
(168 posts)These young voters are not stupid....
The only thing she is Progressive at is taking money from her donors for favors....
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I have more faith in the intelligence and passion of progressive minded young people.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511408683
Joing me in highlighting the disaster that is Trump.
andrewv1
(168 posts)Whether it's overthrowing Democratically Elected Governments in Honduras, or doing the bidding for the Saudi's, or helping to create ISIS, or wanting to create No Fly Zones in Syria to confront Russia, just to name a few....
She's a Destabilizing War Hawk Neocon which who could ultimately destroy life on this planet.
No Thanks.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Assertions about them.
I've noticed that different people- and different generational demographics, often- have very different definitions of what constitutes "progressive ideas".
I dont think they're gonna be buying what Trump is selling, but you might be mistaken in thinking they'd buy what you would sell them, as well.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)And it isn't easy to get them to the polls.
We will work on spreading the message.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511408683
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NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)If it's Trump vs. Clinton, turnout will be low however.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)but I do know several GenXers supporting Trump.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)And it doens't say much for Bernie supporters if there's a serious threat of many of them voting for Trump.