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RealAmericanDem

(221 posts)
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:37 AM Mar 2016

Bernie won.


He won't win the dem nomination but he has done a great job of pulling Hillary left and focusing her on income inequality that will have to be a priority for her throughout her presidency. He will have a spotlight at the convention too. Good job Bernie.
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Bernie won. (Original Post) RealAmericanDem Mar 2016 OP
He's only pulled her rhetorically to the left. Broward Mar 2016 #1
But for how long? elljay Mar 2016 #2
Wise up: She will always be pulled in the direction of her investors. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #3
Won what? A participation ribbon? nt firebrand80 Mar 2016 #4
Neither will be President, so participation for Hillary as well. n/t Dawgs Mar 2016 #5
Whatever helps you sleep at night nt firebrand80 Mar 2016 #8
Sure, a President Cruz will have me sleeping a baby. Dawgs Mar 2016 #10
It occurs to me that aside from sophomoric snark you add nothing of substance to any discussion. peacebird Mar 2016 #12
I would agree if he drops out before his rhetoric does more damage than good. randome Mar 2016 #6
Your leading candidate is a fraud. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #11
And if I was born a woman I could have a baby. So what, won't happen. RealAmericanDem Mar 2016 #21
If she can't withstand the soft punches that Bernie is delivering, EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #13
The only one 'damaging' Hillary's campaign...., daleanime Mar 2016 #18
She will if she wins...will go right back to being right...she is a liar. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #7
So, we should all thank him, and schedule Hillary's coronation? Fuddnik Mar 2016 #9
Exactly! peacebird Mar 2016 #15
Claptrap. bvf Mar 2016 #14
I agree, RealAmerican. These were his goals all along, Hortensis Mar 2016 #16
He would to do splendidly for US as President. While Hillary would help the 1% at our expense peacebird Mar 2016 #20
If Bernie drops out (or maybe before) EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #17
It won't "have to be a priority for her throughout her presidency." RiverLover Mar 2016 #19
I like that Mr Sanders pulled the campaign discussion to the Left... FarPoint Mar 2016 #22

elljay

(1,178 posts)
2. But for how long?
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:42 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary won't stay pulled to the left for long unless there is continual pressure on her. Bernie's main accomplishment will be awakening the progressives from our stupor. It will be up to us to stay awake!

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
3. Wise up: She will always be pulled in the direction of her investors.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:45 AM
Mar 2016

edited;
Oops, meant to put this under the Op!

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
12. It occurs to me that aside from sophomoric snark you add nothing of substance to any discussion.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:58 AM
Mar 2016

No need to waste my time reading your pap. So off you go.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
6. I would agree if he drops out before his rhetoric does more damage than good.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:48 AM
Mar 2016

If he keeps denigrating our leading candidate when he has no chance of winning then he's only helping arm the GOP with talking points.

And to be honest, he has made a career of disparaging the Democratic Party. Hopefully he'll see the light soon.
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Gregory Peck, Mirage (1965)
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Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
11. Your leading candidate is a fraud.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:55 AM
Mar 2016

And according to all polls, he wins hands down over EVERY Republican.

Keep the donations for Bernie coming, it's going to be a long fight.

EmperorHasNoClothes

(4,797 posts)
13. If she can't withstand the soft punches that Bernie is delivering,
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:59 AM
Mar 2016

How the hell is she going to stand up against Trump or Cruz?

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
9. So, we should all thank him, and schedule Hillary's coronation?
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:51 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie's not done winning, until he gets the nomination. Hillary, just paying lip service to your ideas is not a win.

She's feinting to the left, but she's steadily marching to the right.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have another donation to make.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
14. Claptrap.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:59 AM
Mar 2016

Clinton has shown she's willing to say absolutely anything for votes.

She hasn't needed any help lying up to this point, so this transparent "kudos to Sanders" of yours is beyond ridiculous.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. I agree, RealAmerican. These were his goals all along,
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:59 AM
Mar 2016

and his efforts revealed even stronger desire for comprehensive progressive solutions than was realized. That support means power. He has done splendidly for us.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
20. He would to do splendidly for US as President. While Hillary would help the 1% at our expense
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:06 AM
Mar 2016

Tho she would probably nominate a moderate to the SC, and maybe toss a few crumbs of social justice to the peasants.

BernieOrBust

EmperorHasNoClothes

(4,797 posts)
17. If Bernie drops out (or maybe before)
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:00 AM
Mar 2016

she will immediately show her true colors and pivot far to the right. No more co-opting of Bernie's message at that point.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
19. It won't "have to be a priority for her throughout her presidency."
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:00 AM
Mar 2016

Bill Clinton on income inequality 1992, campaigning for president~

....Unfortunately, most Americans are struggling to make their voices heard every day. For the last seven months, I've traveled back and forth across this country, listening to the thousands of people I've met: Unemployed workers who've lost not only their jobs but their pensions, their health care, and even their homes. Laid-off defense workers who now make their living driving cabs. Elderly couples whose refrigerators are bare because so much of their monthly Social Security check has to go for prescription drugs. Middle-class families everywhere who've taken second jobs to make ends meet.

....People who make over $200,000 saw their incomes rise fifteen times faster than average Americans. The average middle- class person, by contrast, is working 158 hours a year more than in 1969 for about the same income -- an extra month of work without extra pay. A new social order is emerging, more unequal, more divided, more impenetrable to those who seek to get ahead.

The U.S. fell from 8th to 22nd in wage inequality in the 1980s. According to a recent study, one percent of the people in the '80s got 60 percent of the country's growth. America is evolving a new social order, more unequal, more divided, more impenetrable to those who seek to get ahead. And although America's rich got richer in the 1980s, the country did not. Ten years ago, America had the highest wages in the world. Now we're tenth, and falling.


What did he do for this more divided unequal social order he wanted to correct?

And while income share for the 1% started growing in the late 1970s, it grew almost as fast under Clinton as it did under Reagan. During Reagan’s two terms, the 1%’s share of the nation’s income grew by half, from 10% to 15%. Under George H.W. Bush, the 1%’s income share stayed about the same. Under Clinton’s two terms, it grew by about one-third, to 21%.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/bill-clinton-defends-his-record


And income inequality & poverty rates have also soared under President Obama.

Why do you think we want real Democrats in office instead of right wing third way dems? They are lying to US. And when they get into office they will be working for the Moneyed Interests (who also own the media, thanks Bill) who got them into office.

FarPoint

(12,287 posts)
22. I like that Mr Sanders pulled the campaign discussion to the Left...
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:20 AM
Mar 2016

That said, as a DNC donor, I will absolutely support only a DNC, active member.. Hillary Clinton. I expect the DNC delegates also support a DNC active member for President.

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