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Bernie CRUSHES Clinton in Maine. (Original Post) RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 OP
Wow! MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #1
Go, Bernie GO!! AzDar Mar 2016 #2
the pendulum is swinging the other way as we knew it would madokie Mar 2016 #3
...and on Tuesday it's going to swing back. brooklynite Mar 2016 #60
Bernie is going to use paid Ads to tell the truth and remind workers of NAFTA. DhhD Mar 2016 #88
In the next 6 hours? brooklynite Mar 2016 #96
They're very powerful ads vdogg Mar 2016 #106
Out of the south, she struggles. Ekes out wins or gets clobbered. morningfog Mar 2016 #4
New Englanders, Midwesterners, and Westerners... SMC22307 Mar 2016 #14
These are the same people that fought and died to rich white people could continuing Feeling the Bern Mar 2016 #61
He did Lordquinton Mar 2016 #69
The South in one obnoxiously mind numbing video Feeling the Bern Mar 2016 #72
You seem to believe that The South is monolithic. bvar22 Mar 2016 #92
Bernie can win Michigan..I think he will win Michigan unless INdemo Mar 2016 #86
very good news dana_b Mar 2016 #5
Good for Bernie itsrobert Mar 2016 #6
"Math" is not why chervilant Mar 2016 #66
I saw the numbers at MSNBC. They include California for Hillary.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #77
I think many of the super-delegates will understand the jwirr Mar 2016 #105
Woot! n/t laruemtt Mar 2016 #7
x2 quantumjunkie Mar 2016 #34
Those of us who are more neutral nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #8
Those of us who are more neutral Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #18
My gut is telling me that we are seeing momentum shift nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #19
The current is under the surface but runs deep. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #24
I think we will nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #29
Three out of four states Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #9
Three our of four... RichGirl Mar 2016 #23
Wrong. Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #65
K&R quantumjunkie Mar 2016 #10
Bernie just passed Hillary in the delegate count. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #11
Cllinton should just give up RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #13
+1000000000000000000 pangaia Mar 2016 #39
No he didn't. n/t Lucinda Mar 2016 #17
Yeah, not even close. She still leads by close to 200 pledged delegates. stevenleser Mar 2016 #21
Exactly. Lucinda Mar 2016 #25
in the WEEKEND delegate count. nt magical thyme Mar 2016 #27
For this weekend, but not in total. TexasTowelie Mar 2016 #30
Ok what delegate I am missing? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #33
I was referring to the data from March 5-6 on this site: TexasTowelie Mar 2016 #38
I kmow exactly what you are talking about nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #40
So RCP lost a delegate (or did they throw that one under the bus)? TexasTowelie Mar 2016 #43
Well I am thinking this is the story for the weekend nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #45
By the way, here it is nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #64
And every sperm is beautiful. (/Monty Python) nt tblue37 Mar 2016 #93
Sanders is +3 for the weekend. aaaaaa5a Mar 2016 #35
I think that Clinton will erase that deficit with Mississippi alone. TexasTowelie Mar 2016 #42
Your'e right, Mississippi will erase a +3 weekend deficit. aaaaaa5a Mar 2016 #44
It is the real tragedy that Bernie has not been able to break through to African American voters. totodeinhere Mar 2016 #62
That's the story of the primary. Most expected Clinton aaaaaa5a Mar 2016 #63
It is especially shocking... bvar22 Mar 2016 #97
Sanders will win big in California. Unfortnately, we do not get to vote until June 7. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #48
A win in CA is not likely, unless he greatly aaaaaa5a Mar 2016 #52
And Bernie will win big in NY. RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #54
There is a fallacy in believing that signs, bumper stickers or large crowds TexasTowelie Mar 2016 #70
What was his target in Maine? Joe the Revelator Mar 2016 #12
Wonderful. Watching the debate now. Sienna86 Mar 2016 #15
kick kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #16
Yeah, not game over yet for Clinton (and I support Sanders) Arazi Mar 2016 #20
I am just RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #22
Whoops! Arazi Mar 2016 #26
Game Not Over noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Mar 2016 #28
She wins in states Dems will lose but depresses the vote in Dem states. A crappy candidate leveymg Mar 2016 #31
I predict Bernnie wil crush Hillary in Michigan on Tues. putitinD Mar 2016 #32
... Agschmid Mar 2016 #37
Does "..." mean I'd lock this if I could? n/t Gore1FL Mar 2016 #82
Nope. Agschmid Mar 2016 #95
^^^yep^^^ Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #99
IF that happens...... Ooohh BOY !!!!! pangaia Mar 2016 #41
lolz obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #91
Crushed! braddy Mar 2016 #36
What is really grossly unfair- marew Mar 2016 #46
nice - will have to check out the TBT article. nashville_brook Mar 2016 #49
K&R. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #47
K & R! TIME TO PANIC Mar 2016 #50
Go Bernie! amborin Mar 2016 #51
everyone benefits from Sen. Sanders staying in to the convention 0rganism Mar 2016 #53
K&R quantumjunkie Mar 2016 #57
Cool! SoapBox Mar 2016 #56
HIT IT OUT OF THE PARK!!! Duckfan Mar 2016 #58
2,000 votes... brooklynite Mar 2016 #59
She is still up about 90k votes for this weekend alone Lucinda Mar 2016 #68
Congratulations to Sanders. Beacool Mar 2016 #67
More than 47k Maine Dems participated Kittycat Mar 2016 #94
Look at the chart on RCP. Beacool Mar 2016 #102
State convention delegates Kittycat Mar 2016 #104
Thanks!! Beacool Mar 2016 #107
Yet the mainstream media is still being deceptive. blondie58 Mar 2016 #71
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #73
You're declaring "game over" because of a thousand-vote margin in a New England state? jmowreader Mar 2016 #74
NO! RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #75
Nice win. GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #76
Yes, I saw that on CNN. Front page! Helen Borg Mar 2016 #78
the money wants it to be Hillary & Donald olddots Mar 2016 #79
Well gang, I guess that's it. Let's pack up and go home ... NurseJackie Mar 2016 #80
As I have said many times, in many different places, BobTheSubgenius Mar 2016 #81
Hillary CRUSHES Bernie EVEN WORSE in Louisiana!!! Gamecock Lefty Mar 2016 #83
Yes, it was a nice win for Grandma Hillary in LA bigwillq Mar 2016 #85
Jury results. edbermac Mar 2016 #89
Yes, someone did bring up Bernie's grandpa status: the poster I replied to. bigwillq Mar 2016 #90
"No one brought up Bernie's status as a grandfather." Um, WTF? arcane1 Mar 2016 #101
Grandpa Sanders is 6 years older than Hillary, in case you missed that fact. Beacool Mar 2016 #103
and it was barely mentioned by Comcast(msnbc) CNN or any corporate network INdemo Mar 2016 #84
I participated and voted for Bernie Android3.14 Mar 2016 #87
Shredded, Pulverized, Stomped, Raked over the coals, KO'd, DOA, Dirt knapped, etc! Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #98
WooHoo... Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #100

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
106. They're very powerful ads
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:19 PM
Mar 2016

Almost as powerful as those Twitter hashtags that "broke the Internet"...

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
14. New Englanders, Midwesterners, and Westerners...
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:52 PM
Mar 2016

see through the Clinton bullshit. Why don't Southerners?

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
61. These are the same people that fought and died to rich white people could continuing
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:40 PM
Mar 2016

owning slaves. I still believe Lincoln should have let them go.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
92. You seem to believe that The South is monolithic.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 06:45 PM
Mar 2016

It is not.
I can find that guy in the video in every state of the Union.

We moved from a Big Blue Northern City to the old South in 2006,
and love it here.
We can drink the water that bubbles up from the Ozark Spring in our back yard.
We've also found many educated Liberal Democrats living here, enjoying their life, growing their own food, and raising chickens and other critters.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1182456

The South is beautiful, and belongs to us all.
Why just give it away to the "necks"?

More people will be moving here in the near future as LA runs out of water, the cost of heating during the Winter rises, and people wise up that almost all the water "up North" has been poisoned.

I'll save you a spot, but better hurry.

---bvar22 and Starkraven
Living well on a LOW taxable income
and stuff we learned in the 60s.


In 2008, 1/3 of the people up in these old mountains voted for "the black guy".
Due to the low population density, it wouldn't take very many people to flip that the Blue. Our votes here weigh MUCH more than they did in Minneapolis.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
86. Bernie can win Michigan..I think he will win Michigan unless
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 06:21 PM
Mar 2016

DWS finds a way to steal it for Hillary. I put her in the same class as Karl Rove and expect anything

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
66. "Math" is not why
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:57 PM
Mar 2016

Hi11ary might still get the Democratic nomination, and MOST of us understand that. With each of Bernie's victories, her "nomination" looks less and less likely.

That being said, I think Bernie has quite a bit more support than the Oligarchs are willing to admit. Consequently, if Hi11ary does get the nomination, hers will be a Pyrrhic victory, at best.

Go BERNIE!!!

#NotMeUs

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
77. I saw the numbers at MSNBC. They include California for Hillary....
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:54 PM
Mar 2016

California hasn't voted yet.

They were counting "super-delegates" as if they were a lock.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
105. I think many of the super-delegates will understand the
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:54 PM
Mar 2016

danger of nominating a candidate that so many do not want to vote for.

While they are still hanging on to Hillary hoping they can continue politics as usual I think they would much rather have a candidate that can win for their party.

By the time the primary voting is done and Hillary and the DNC have angered some more voters she is not going to look like such a sure thing.

I fully expect the super-delegates to do what is best for the country and for their own political careers.

I have five SDs still hanging onto her in a state that voted heavily for Bernie. Shouldn't take much longer for them to realize that we are not following them anymore. "I need to go for there they go and I am their leader."

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
8. Those of us who are more neutral
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:22 PM
Mar 2016

know this is a close race. It has been a close race... but this is still a race.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
19. My gut is telling me that we are seeing momentum shift
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:16 PM
Mar 2016

but until the 15 I do not expect to see definite, signs of this, well this weekend might.


But we will soon know for sure.

I need to once again look at the numbers

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
29. I think we will
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:23 PM
Mar 2016

please do check my math for the weekend, data is from real clear politics... first column is Clinton, second is sanders. If my math is correct, Sanders took this by two delegates. I removed the supers from this. This is just raw data from earned delegates

Louisiana March 5 35 12 Primary Closed
Nebraska March 5 10 14 Caucus Closed
Kansas March 5 10 23 Caucus Closed
Maine March 6 6 14 Caucus C

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_delegate_count.html

Land of Enchantment

(1,217 posts)
9. Three out of four states
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:26 PM
Mar 2016

this weekend. Momentum is building and Hillary is losing her base and has no new voters.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
13. Cllinton should just give up
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:47 PM
Mar 2016

because she has already lost!
It was a good fight, but Bernie did a better job.
Now on to the General Election, and in January we shall have PRESIDENT BERNIE SANDERS!

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
21. Yeah, not even close. She still leads by close to 200 pledged delegates.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:18 PM
Mar 2016

Have no idea what that person is talking about.

TexasTowelie

(111,928 posts)
30. For this weekend, but not in total.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:24 PM
Mar 2016

For this weekend Sanders 66 to Clinton 63 according to the New York Times.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
33. Ok what delegate I am missing?
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:27 PM
Mar 2016

I just added them and yes he is ahead, but only by two not three, and this is what shifting momentum starts to look like

MATH... at times it drives me nuts. It might be my eyesight.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
35. Sanders is +3 for the weekend.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:28 PM
Mar 2016

And Hillary will erase this Tuesday with one victory in Michigan.


Sanders has to stop winning small rural caucus states and get a real win in a big primary state to truly turn this race around.

TexasTowelie

(111,928 posts)
42. I think that Clinton will erase that deficit with Mississippi alone.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:43 PM
Mar 2016

She will pad that lead with Michigan if the polls are correct. I agree with you that Sanders needs to win (and win big) in a larger primary state in order to erase the deficit. Winning the Maine caucus 2,200 - 1,214 is almost significant.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
44. Your'e right, Mississippi will erase a +3 weekend deficit.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:50 PM
Mar 2016

I think Sanders has to win Michigan. People have really soured on caucases. They are undemocratic and are disproportionately held in small, rural, non-momentum building states. Sanders needs a big, important PRIMARY win soon.

Until that happens, Clinton remains the presumptive nominee and Sanders an outside protest candidate.

totodeinhere

(13,056 posts)
62. It is the real tragedy that Bernie has not been able to break through to African American voters.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:41 PM
Mar 2016

n/t

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
63. That's the story of the primary. Most expected Clinton
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:45 PM
Mar 2016

to win AA voters. But by 85-15 margins? Clinton is scoring higher margins in this group than Obama did in '08. Shocking!

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
97. It is especially shocking...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 07:47 PM
Mar 2016

...since nobody named Clinton ever did a damned thing the help PoC beyond making their lives much harder.
I don't understand it.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
48. Sanders will win big in California. Unfortnately, we do not get to vote until June 7.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:07 PM
Mar 2016

Most of the early caucus and primary states are conservative. And that is how the system is rigged to make Americans appear more conservative than we are.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
54. And Bernie will win big in NY.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:13 PM
Mar 2016

I have not seen one Clinton sign, bumper sticker, yard sign, or other signs of support.
That will do her in. Especially since NY is her current home state.

TexasTowelie

(111,928 posts)
70. There is a fallacy in believing that signs, bumper stickers or large crowds
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:28 AM
Mar 2016

equates to votes. There were large rallies for Bernie in Texas, but he still lost by almost a 2-1 margin.

I've never put out a sign in my yard or a bumper sticker on my vehicles because doing so makes the property a likely target for vandalism. There are plenty of benefits to not indicating which candidate your support and keeping the decision about which candidate you support relegated to the voting booth. Indicating that you support a Democrat is usually okay in the metro areas of Texas, but it is not a smart move to advertise the same in the suburbs or rural areas.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
20. Yeah, not game over yet for Clinton (and I support Sanders)
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:16 PM
Mar 2016

We can't afford to get cocky and must continue to fight for every vote

Carry on

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
22. I am just
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:19 PM
Mar 2016

parroting the opposition.
I believe it is VERY close, and we must work, work, work, and work some more, to make Bernie President.

Response to RoccoR5955 (Original post)

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
31. She wins in states Dems will lose but depresses the vote in Dem states. A crappy candidate
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:24 PM
Mar 2016

If there ever was one.

marew

(1,588 posts)
46. What is really grossly unfair-
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:00 PM
Mar 2016

This entire super delegate thing is to subvert the will of the voters. Super delegates have no responsibility to reflect the popular vote in their states! How can this be called a democracy when one super delegate vote can cancel out a number of popular votes.
Today the Tampa Bay Times Politifact process evaluated Wasserman Schultz claim that she scheduled the Democratic debates on weekends so more people could see them. The Tampa Bay Times did all kinds of research, contacted media specialists, etc., and came to the conclusion that Wasserman Schultz reasoning is false. People are LESS likely to view the debates on weekends but then most of us had figured that out already. We knew EXACTLY was Wasserman Schultz was trying to do!

Below are two petitions if anyone is interested:

Petition: Remove Wasserman Schultz
http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/remove-debbie-wasserman

Petition: Superdelegates: Let the voters decide
http://pac.petitions.moveon.org/sign/tell-the-democratic-superdel

0rganism

(23,924 posts)
53. everyone benefits from Sen. Sanders staying in to the convention
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:12 PM
Mar 2016

as long as Hillary's campaigning against Sen. Sanders, she doesn't have to constantly explain the email thing. that changes when she goes up against the Republicans, at this point.

HRC supporters should be glad that someone as direct and respectful as Sen. Sanders is sticking it out to run against her. if he takes it to the convention and loses there, she can start in on the Republicans, who should be up to their eyebrows in problems of their own by then. if Sen. Sanders wins outright, or indictments develop for the situations around the email server or the Clinton Foundation, Democrats will be overjoyed that another candidate, a worthy opponent, is right there ready to pick up the banner.

after watching the debate, it looks to me like this situation is actually very win-win.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
68. She is still up about 90k votes for this weekend alone
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:58 PM
Mar 2016

Not that we use popular vote, but it was definitely a good weekend for Hillary!

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
67. Congratulations to Sanders.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:57 PM
Mar 2016

But it's no game changer. Less than 3,500 people voted in ME.

Sanders 2,231
Clinton 1,232

The total weekend delegate count:

Sanders 64

Clinton 62




Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
94. More than 47k Maine Dems participated
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 06:58 PM
Mar 2016

There was one line over a mile long, where people waited 5 hours in 40 degree weather, only to have voter registration cut off early and were forced to change from a caucus to primary format to get the lines through. They were completely overwhelmed by the turnout. It even exceeded 2008. Great turnout.

https://bangordailynews.com/2016/03/06/politics/bernie-sanders-handily-defeats-hillary-clinton-in-maine-caucuses/

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
104. State convention delegates
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:43 PM
Mar 2016

I wish they would update the numbers with the popular vote estimates, even on the low end. I think this is disingenuous


Eta:
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/ME-D

blondie58

(2,570 posts)
71. Yet the mainstream media is still being deceptive.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:30 AM
Mar 2016

I just read something about Hillary having a strong less ad.

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
74. You're declaring "game over" because of a thousand-vote margin in a New England state?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:38 AM
Mar 2016

So...when Bernie loses two states on Tuesday by devastating margins, will it be GAME OVER FOR SANDERS!?

BobTheSubgenius

(11,559 posts)
81. As I have said many times, in many different places,
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:22 PM
Mar 2016

HRC is not my ideal candidate, so I don't have an axe to grind, and especially not a partisan position on her side. She will sink or swim on the public's assessment of the candidates, and my input will not make even a scintilla of difference. However, I think perspective is sometimes lacking.

Specifically, at the moment, today's poll numbers.

Michigan - HRC +13 in one poll, +37 in the other. *

Ohio - HRC +21

NY _ HRC +21

Of course, there could be errors, or the questions not properly phrased, or an inadequate sample size, but these are not the numbers of a candidate that's already done, somewhat sloppy polling or no.

* Yes, I know. That outlier is from Fox, who could easily be working against Sanders.

edbermac

(15,933 posts)
89. Jury results.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 06:43 PM
Mar 2016

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Yes, it was a nice win for Grandma Hillary in LA
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1437803

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Wow, age-ist much? What does her being a grandmother have to do with this conversation. No one brought up Bernie's status as a grandfather.

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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
101. "No one brought up Bernie's status as a grandfather." Um, WTF?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:32 PM
Mar 2016

Sometimes I think one needs to pass a thinking test before submitting an alert

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
84. and it was barely mentioned by Comcast(msnbc) CNN or any corporate network
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 06:19 PM
Mar 2016

A 29% crushing defeat and not one network responds.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
87. I participated and voted for Bernie
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 06:36 PM
Mar 2016

He didn't win in my location in the far northern part of the state, but Aroostook County is very traditional Catholic, has one of the densest populations of seniors and is consequently conservative. Still the vote was 35 Bernie to 42 Clinton. When I saw that in my conservative locale, I knew he was going to win the state.

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