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JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:24 PM Mar 2016

I just finished the debate and Bernie won the beginning and Hillary dominated the rest. Hillary won.

Bernie had opportunities, he's too nice IMO. It could doom him if he was the nominee. Hillary doesn't hesitate she's a great debater.

Bernie is better on the issues, but Hillary's preparation for debates is unmatched.

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I just finished the debate and Bernie won the beginning and Hillary dominated the rest. Hillary won. (Original Post) JRLeft Mar 2016 OP
Wrong, again. nt Snotcicles Mar 2016 #1
Bernie should have clobbered her on the meeting with fossil fuels lobbyists. He didn't. JRLeft Mar 2016 #2
That's interesting - and I don't mean it in a snide way. kristopher Mar 2016 #4
He gave her a pass. She's great at debating every time she got in trouble she ran behind Obama. JRLeft Mar 2016 #5
I think he won the debate. And I think he will carry Michigan on Tuesday. If turn out is good. nt Snotcicles Mar 2016 #3
His focus on the issues is exactly why he's doing so well Arazi Mar 2016 #6
Going after her for being bribed is an issue. JRLeft Mar 2016 #7
The only way to thwart Trump effectively is demonstrated by Kasich Arazi Mar 2016 #13
He could have done serious damage tonight, but he either passed or it's not in him. JRLeft Mar 2016 #14
Sanders has NEVER run negative. Ever. He won't start now Arazi Mar 2016 #16
Her taking money from special interests is an issue. He missed an opportunity to do serious damage. JRLeft Mar 2016 #21
He's famously passed on her email scandal Arazi Mar 2016 #23
Why do you assume... TTUBatfan2008 Mar 2016 #8
I disagree with the OP because my standards are different for primary debates mvd Mar 2016 #9
He already went there with the transcripts. JRLeft Mar 2016 #10
The GOP won't ask that. TTUBatfan2008 Mar 2016 #11
Trump will. JRLeft Mar 2016 #15
And I'm sure... TTUBatfan2008 Mar 2016 #17
She will kill Trump in the GE. JRLeft Mar 2016 #19
Maybe so... TTUBatfan2008 Mar 2016 #20
I was fine with how he handled it mvd Mar 2016 #12
I can't shake the feeling that Hillary knows the questions courtesy of her corporate buddies. Skwmom Mar 2016 #18
Her preparation strikes me as word salad Armstead Mar 2016 #22

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
4. That's interesting - and I don't mean it in a snide way.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:31 PM
Mar 2016

You think he should have taken advantage of her personal action. You are disappointed in fact, that he focused his criticism on the underlying issue of a corrupt system that she is participating in.


I don't know. My instinct is like your own, and I'd probably strike out at her. On the other hand, I have to admit that I think what he did makes him a better person than I am; both politically because it focused on the real problem before the Republic, and on the personal level of integrity.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
5. He gave her a pass. She's great at debating every time she got in trouble she ran behind Obama.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:33 PM
Mar 2016

Smart debating strategy.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
6. His focus on the issues is exactly why he's doing so well
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:33 PM
Mar 2016

Trump will look like a party pony in comparison - all dressed up to entertain but really nothing but shit as the outcome

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
13. The only way to thwart Trump effectively is demonstrated by Kasich
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:43 PM
Mar 2016

(who happens to mimic Sanders' technique)

He doesn't get involved in the insult game - where Trump excels. He doesn't turn and "face" Trump (key), he focuses on the camera and the audience and delivers his message.

Look, the Dem nominee has to be prepared to fight off Trump. Its important we study what's been effective. Who has escaped Trump's attacks virtually unscathed so far? Kasich. Who debates the same way? Sanders

HRC gets prickly and defensive when cornered. Trump knows her intimately - they're old friends. He's got LOADS of ammunition both personal and business and won't hesitate to unleash all of it. He shut down her 'sexist' charge in less than 24 hours by going after Bill's affairs. She hasn't mentioned it since.

I'm not naive. I also believe the nomination will go to HRC but I refuse to go down without a fight

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
16. Sanders has NEVER run negative. Ever. He won't start now
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:53 PM
Mar 2016

He takes that as a professional standard and has abided by it in every race he's run

He doesn't "take down" or destroy his opponents. He believes the positions on the issues are foremost and people should vote on those positions rather than tearing down the other candidate

its who he is fyi. Its who he's always been

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
21. Her taking money from special interests is an issue. He missed an opportunity to do serious damage.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:06 AM
Mar 2016

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
23. He's famously passed on her email scandal
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:13 AM
Mar 2016

where the FBI just granted immunity to an aide

He's passed on dissing her for role in our foreign policy disasters

I could name a dozen scandals he's passed on doing "serious damage". He simply doesn't run that kind of campaign. Never has, never will and is obviously succeeding on his own terms

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
8. Why do you assume...
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:36 PM
Mar 2016

...that he would be nice to Republicans in a debate? There is plenty of video evidence in Congressional debates that shows he is very willing to destroy Republican ideas right to their face.

He likely realizes Hillary will be the Democratic nominee. He cannot and should not play hardball at this point.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
9. I disagree with the OP because my standards are different for primary debates
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:39 PM
Mar 2016

You don't want to go after the other too hard because the other side will use it. In the GE debates, both candidates would go all out.

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
17. And I'm sure...
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:56 PM
Mar 2016

...she will go after him for bankruptcies, etc. Trump is not exactly a real conservative. He is far left of Hillary (never mind the GOP) on trade policy, at least in recent years.

He has flip-flopped on every issue so I don't think anyone really knows what he believes. He has suggested socialist ideas like universal healthcare and fascist ideas like a national Muslim registry. The guy is a huge mess from a policy standpoint.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
19. She will kill Trump in the GE.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:01 AM
Mar 2016

The point I was trying to make was he should have kept pushing the envelope.

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
20. Maybe so...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:05 AM
Mar 2016

But if she underestimates him the same way she underestimated Obama/Sanders, it could backfire.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
12. I was fine with how he handled it
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:43 PM
Mar 2016

We'll just have to agree to disagree. He should have explained more about how he supported a better auto bailout bill. But that was one mistake.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
18. I can't shake the feeling that Hillary knows the questions courtesy of her corporate buddies.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:58 PM
Mar 2016

We already know the have no integrity.
 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
22. Her preparation strikes me as word salad
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:09 AM
Mar 2016

A lotta words but you analyze them and not much substance there.

But I'll admit I'm biased because I just don't trust her.

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