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Who won the debate (see these polls)? (Original Post) BigBearJohn Mar 2016 OP
Bernie is "The Real Deal"... AzDar Mar 2016 #1
Didn't get to watch. tabasco Mar 2016 #2
How many delegates are they worth? Oh... Right... CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #21
Wow. Can't we just celebrate CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #30
That person has 10 posts Ned_Devine Mar 2016 #33
Maybe manners and a sense of basic decency CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #39
Or, just maybe... Ned_Devine Mar 2016 #45
Cause people can't be new? What kind of Wall Street pull-the-ladder-up-behind-you mentality is that? CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #101
I've been here since 2004 so I know what to look for Ned_Devine Mar 2016 #108
"...you folks"? chervilant Mar 2016 #119
Could they be a Clinton aid ready with a David Brock script to post? INdemo Mar 2016 #106
That person has been Gwhittey Mar 2016 #66
All ready? INdemo Mar 2016 #107
Because they are a bunch of John Poet Mar 2016 #52
Plain and simple, it's bullying CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #56
Hey--It's okay to say motherfucker on DU now (about Bernie anyway) panader0 Mar 2016 #97
Because "in their hearts, they know she's wrong." Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #60
"In your guts, you know he's nuts." raging moderate Mar 2016 #79
:D C Moon Mar 2016 #114
GOLDWATER?!?! RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #86
You're completely mis-reading my post. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #88
Psst! RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #90
Um...okay. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #94
Hillary campaigned for Goldwater back in the days, bvar22 Mar 2016 #109
The ONLY way to prevent it is posting in Bernie group. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #74
sock puppet says what? Raster Mar 2016 #96
We'll see on Tuesday who won the debate... lunamagica Mar 2016 #3
No, we won't. Ron Green Mar 2016 #14
The point of a debate is to attraact voters to your side. Tuesday will ttell us how well they did. lunamagica Mar 2016 #55
You're serious, aren't you? Ron Green Mar 2016 #65
Online polls are not an accurate measure of public opinion. n/t DesertRat Mar 2016 #4
And the corporate media is in the business of creating public opinion. intheflow Mar 2016 #6
The Young Turks also were unanimous that Hillary won. I don't agree.The online polls also skew young JudyM Mar 2016 #22
You mean Bernie won? jhart3333 Mar 2016 #24
TYT immediately came out on the same end as MSM: that HRC 'won'. Onliners and I saw it differently. JudyM Mar 2016 #25
Curiouser and curiouser. jhart3333 Mar 2016 #27
TYT over thought it Gwhittey Mar 2016 #67
They also made an interesting point nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #26
Right. I was still surprised they saw it that way. The guy with the glasses made some great points JudyM Mar 2016 #38
Well I was doing the same nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #41
couldn't have said it better myself putitinD Mar 2016 #31
Would you say the same thing if they favored HRC? BigBearJohn Mar 2016 #7
But they are instantaneous and an indicator. tabasco Mar 2016 #9
But they often suggest robust support saltpoint Mar 2016 #19
You are correct noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #36
I'd love to know, DesertRat Lorien Mar 2016 #62
^this^ Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #99
Thanks Lorien - copying your list floppyboo Mar 2016 #104
Thanks for the list, Lorien. bvar22 Mar 2016 #110
You are quite correct. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #63
Yes SheenaR Mar 2016 #5
Code Pink Poll: Sanders 81%, Clinton 19% kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #8
Are we still pretending that online post-debate polls mean anything? I thought we were beyond that CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #10
When we all know that what matters is what tv pundits tell us. Matariki Mar 2016 #16
but every online poll is saying the same thing putitinD Mar 2016 #34
Only win Bernie wins eom noiretextatique Mar 2016 #93
It's DUs version of creation science. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #117
Hillary reminded me of Poppy Bush looking at his watch FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #11
me too, it was like she couldn't wait to get this thing over with putitinD Mar 2016 #37
I'm so glad you brought that up! bvf Mar 2016 #103
Too bad voting online isn't an option during primaries. grossproffit Mar 2016 #12
President Ron Paul wishes Sanders well. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #13
Don't worry. The media will fix those by morning. Matariki Mar 2016 #15
CLICKY CLICKY! nt onehandle Mar 2016 #17
Thanks. zentrum Mar 2016 #18
Polls are only accurate when Hillary wins left-of-center2012 Mar 2016 #20
B I N G O tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #32
That is not sarcasm RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #87
Wasn't able to watch tonight, but this is one "spoiler alert" that I'm glad to know ahead of time! FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #23
They used to have to remove Ron Paul's name from the choices oberliner Mar 2016 #28
My brother was a huge Paul fan. He really isn't really a fan of some of Bernie's policies. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #43
I can understand that oberliner Mar 2016 #49
Anyone who watched the debate knew Bernie "won" basselope Mar 2016 #29
pretty sure the lady who asked the religeous question was a hillary plant putitinD Mar 2016 #42
That was a plant? basselope Mar 2016 #44
red meat for the bible belt putitinD Mar 2016 #47
hillary's response gave it away when she hopemountain Mar 2016 #73
I wonder if the participants realize... brooklynite Mar 2016 #35
The Ron Paul-ites didn't seem to ever figure that out oberliner Mar 2016 #40
What's the margin of error? NurseJackie Mar 2016 #46
LMAO. The margin of error is how many Sanders supporters on Reddit could be directed to the poll! stevenleser Mar 2016 #50
Wow! So, Clinton supporters are blocked on Reddit? dchill Mar 2016 #57
Nope, Non-millenials aren't as big reddit users. nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #58
I'm 64 and don't use Reddit. dchill Mar 2016 #59
Thank you for proving my point. nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #61
You're VERY welcome. dchill Mar 2016 #64
I'm 64 and I try out everything I can find Colorado Rambler Mar 2016 #69
Me, too! dchill Mar 2016 #71
Don't forget that you are also in your underwear sitting in your parents' basement. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #95
Thank you BigBearJohn! SoapBox Mar 2016 #48
My pleasure, SoapBox BigBearJohn Mar 2016 #72
Well, there it is! PatrickforO Mar 2016 #51
So if I'm reading these polls correctly, that means the MSM will say HRC won ybbor Mar 2016 #53
And so they did! You're prescient! nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2016 #78
Oh, that's good... jmowreader Mar 2016 #54
Yeah, you guys might want to Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #102
Oh I'm sure its just the cookie clearers and Ron Paul supporters who vote in online polls. The Midway Rebel Mar 2016 #68
Bernie won. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #70
Kick kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #75
Those Hillary folks just aren't computer savvy. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2016 #76
I remember a short time ago here bvf Mar 2016 #105
LOL meanwhile people here are posting media spin saying she won. vintx Mar 2016 #77
Bernie won 3 of 4 states this weekend! Took in over 5 million individual donations! Beat Hillary peacebird Mar 2016 #80
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Mar 2016 #81
Wonder What Percentage . . . DarthDem Mar 2016 #82
NO RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #91
To be fair, those really aren't accurate tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #83
I don't do online polls, they don't interest me. Beacool Mar 2016 #84
Wow. Those look like primary numbers on our side in diverse states....Just reversed. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #85
So Sanders won ?? GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #89
All those sites are biased noiretextatique Mar 2016 #92
LMFAO Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #98
lets see rtracey Mar 2016 #100
Nice to see. Thx. (nt) pat_k Mar 2016 #111
Bernie kicked some serious butt madokie Mar 2016 #112
According to Comcast early morning headlines.... smiley Mar 2016 #113
This is the turning point. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #115
I sure thought Bernie was the clear winner of the debate because of the clear points he made, time Akamai Mar 2016 #116
I agree 100%!!!! BigBearJohn Mar 2016 #118
Kick dchill Mar 2016 #120

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
30. Wow. Can't we just celebrate
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:55 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie's terrific debate performance and the fact that many people responding to online polls feel that he did well too?

Why do Clinton supporters have to insert themselves into celebratory Sanders threads and take a big dump?

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
101. Cause people can't be new? What kind of Wall Street pull-the-ladder-up-behind-you mentality is that?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:47 PM
Mar 2016

Boy, you folks can't grow your coalition anywhere, can you?

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
52. Because they are a bunch of
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:30 AM
Mar 2016

This Post Would Be Hidden By Jury Decision
if I finished that train of thought.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
56. Plain and simple, it's bullying
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:37 AM
Mar 2016

And I have no idea what the payoff is for them.

Certainly doesn't stop anyone from supporting Bernie.

raging moderate

(4,292 posts)
79. "In your guts, you know he's nuts."
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:28 AM
Mar 2016

That was the retort to this Goldwater ad by the downtown Chicago lawyers who were my mother's employers, back at that time.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
86. GOLDWATER?!?!
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:54 PM
Mar 2016

You have a lot of nerve posting a pic of that bigot, racist, and most of all RepubliCLOWN on this site!
But then again, if he was alive, he would be supporting Clinton.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
88. You're completely mis-reading my post.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:57 PM
Mar 2016

That was and (I thought) a pretty obvious bit of snark on Hillary's past (and present) conservatism.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
14. No, we won't.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:23 AM
Mar 2016

The primary vote has nothing to do with who "won" the debate, it indicates how persuaded have become a small sample of registered voters, mostly with limited information, who've bothered to go to the polls.

This is a truth that, sadly, applies to the entire US electoral process.

intheflow

(28,443 posts)
6. And the corporate media is in the business of creating public opinion.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:17 AM
Mar 2016

So the truth is somewhere between these online polls going wildly for Sanders and the MSM saying Clinton slammed it.

JudyM

(29,206 posts)
22. The Young Turks also were unanimous that Hillary won. I don't agree.The online polls also skew young
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:35 AM
Mar 2016

JudyM

(29,206 posts)
25. TYT immediately came out on the same end as MSM: that HRC 'won'. Onliners and I saw it differently.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:51 AM
Mar 2016
 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
67. TYT over thought it
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:25 AM
Mar 2016

As tyt are very knowledgeable they hit Sanders on what he should of done. Which most people would not think of.

JudyM

(29,206 posts)
38. Right. I was still surprised they saw it that way. The guy with the glasses made some great points
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:00 AM
Mar 2016

about supporting facts that Bernie could've brought up to 'slam the door' on her rather than remaining gentlemanly.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
41. Well I was doing the same
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:02 AM
Mar 2016

but I am too close to this.

Ergo my scoring on this... depends what part of the debate. Some parts she won some parts he did, some meh!

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
19. But they often suggest robust support
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:29 AM
Mar 2016

for one or another candidate.

Sanders has drawn large enthusiastic crowds across the country. No surprise if an on-line poll reflects similar enthusiasm.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
62. I'd love to know, DesertRat
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:46 AM
Mar 2016

just what portions of Hillary's involvement in:
Iraq
TPP
KXL
Pro arctic drilling
Pro for Profit Prisons
Pro Monsanto
Bankruptcy bill
Voting for a border fence
Saying child migrants should be sent home
Using her position as SoS to push fracking on the rest of the world
Wall Street donations
Six digit speaking fees
Taking money from weapons deals
Honduras
Comments about nuking Iran
Voted to raise credit card interest rates
NAFTA
DOMA
DADT
Opposing gay marriage in New York State
Brownbeck Amendments
Glass-Steagall
No living wage
No free college
No universal health care (ACA coverage gap....ACA will never provide UHC)
No medical Marijuana
Supports mandatory sentencing
Says that she's "proud of" the way Walmart does business
Libya
Yemen
Syria
Egypt
United States-Chile Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act
United States-Singapore Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act
Free trade - Oman agreement
Voted FOR Gitmo. --- Hillary voted against the Byrd ammendment and against a large majority of democrats to reduce Guatanamo funding by $36,000,000. She joined the republican majority against the majority of democrats in supporting Guantanamo.
Pro death penalty
Pro cluster bombing
Pro increased carcinogens in drinking water
Clinton policies lead to the largest mass incarceration of human beings in the history of the world

relate to "love and kindness"? Please explain.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
104. Thanks Lorien - copying your list
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:58 PM
Mar 2016

However, not sure if that's going to stop Hillary fans from looking at me like a just farted when I pass it on. Just don't meet me in an elevator!

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
110. Thanks for the list, Lorien.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 06:21 PM
Mar 2016

I added it to mine.

You could also add:
*Voted FOR and supports The Patriot Act

*Voted FOR and defends the Wall Street No Strings Attached Bailout

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
63. You are quite correct.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:47 AM
Mar 2016

I'm pleased to see these results, and I agree with those poll voters about who won...but self-selecting polls are not a scientific methodology.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
5. Yes
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:17 AM
Mar 2016

We Love you Bernie!!


Oh wait, I actually can form real opinions. Gotta stop reading that Hill group.

Chris Cilizza aside, people watching this debate cannot deny that both candidates had good moments tonight. Personally, authenticity and issues that speak to me are the tiebreaker. And he wins that battle every time

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
11. Hillary reminded me of Poppy Bush looking at his watch
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:20 AM
Mar 2016

How ironic it was Bill Clinton he was debating

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
103. I'm so glad you brought that up!
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:55 PM
Mar 2016

I mentioned it the other day in a post and wondered if it would resonate. Happy to see that particilar Bush debate moment stuck, and that Hillary's own demeanor would evoke it.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
28. They used to have to remove Ron Paul's name from the choices
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:54 AM
Mar 2016

Because he would win every single online post-debate poll by ridiculous margins.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
43. My brother was a huge Paul fan. He really isn't really a fan of some of Bernie's policies.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:07 AM
Mar 2016

He told me the media is doing Bernie in exactly the same way they did Ron Paul.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
44. That was a plant?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:08 AM
Mar 2016

The response was cringe-worthy.

I let a magical being in the sky help me make my choices.

Bernie hits the nail on the head. Treat others the way you want to be treated.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
73. hillary's response gave it away when she
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:16 AM
Mar 2016

referenced having been in church with that woman and prayed with her a few times ...

brooklynite

(94,384 posts)
35. I wonder if the participants realize...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:59 AM
Mar 2016

...that after voting in an online poll, they still have to vote at the Caucus or Primary.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
40. The Ron Paul-ites didn't seem to ever figure that out
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:01 AM
Mar 2016

If you went by online polls, he would've won in a landslide.

dchill

(38,453 posts)
57. Wow! So, Clinton supporters are blocked on Reddit?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:38 AM
Mar 2016

Totally unfair! And sexist, no doubt. Is evitable a word?

Colorado Rambler

(40 posts)
69. I'm 64 and I try out everything I can find
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:55 AM
Mar 2016

I also vote in on-line polls all the time. But I forget - only millennials and Rand Paul fans are on the Internet and I'm really a 14 year-old just fooling around with my I-phone, but 64 or 14, those poll results sure look encouraging to me!

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
95. Don't forget that you are also in your underwear sitting in your parents' basement.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:09 PM
Mar 2016

I usually skip the underwear part myself.

PatrickforO

(14,559 posts)
51. Well, there it is!
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:30 AM
Mar 2016

And coming into some very favorable states. Bernie can well be in this thing until the convention and maybe even get the nomination!

ybbor

(1,554 posts)
53. So if I'm reading these polls correctly, that means the MSM will say HRC won
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:33 AM
Mar 2016

Hands down.

Silly non-thinking people.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
102. Yeah, you guys might want to
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:52 PM
Mar 2016

think about learning that skill. I'm sure YouTube has a training video or two on the subject.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
76. Those Hillary folks just aren't computer savvy.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:26 AM
Mar 2016

They can't figure out how to vote in online polls. Otherwise she'd be crushing him in a gravelanche!

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
105. I remember a short time ago here
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:04 PM
Mar 2016

where the question was asked by an HRC supporter, "I'm on Twitter. How do I get something to trend?"

That was the most entertaining thread in quite a while.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
80. Bernie won 3 of 4 states this weekend! Took in over 5 million individual donations! Beat Hillary
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:32 AM
Mar 2016

In fundraising in Jan, probably again in Feb.
Refused to be TRUMPed by Hillary as she repeated interrupted his answers and talked over him in last nights debate!


MOMENTUM!

Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
82. Wonder What Percentage . . .
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:32 AM
Mar 2016

. . . of those online voters cited above are (gasp) Republicans, some of them getting paid by RNC? (My guess: 85-90%.)

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
83. To be fair, those really aren't accurate
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:51 PM
Mar 2016

I didn't get a chance to swing by and put my vote in for Bernie!



Beacool

(30,247 posts)
84. I don't do online polls, they don't interest me.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:53 PM
Mar 2016

Hilary's supporters show up where it counts, at the voting booth.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
85. Wow. Those look like primary numbers on our side in diverse states....Just reversed.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:54 PM
Mar 2016

Difference? People actually have to walk away from their computers to do one.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
112. Bernie kicked some serious butt
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 06:28 PM
Mar 2016

and mostly done it in a nice way, being the gentleman he is and all.
Can't wait for him to be dealing with the world leaders in our name. The man is a true gentleman and people pick up on that right off. Only our people blinded by political persuasion can't see it, everyone else does. In this election it is their loss our gain.

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
116. I sure thought Bernie was the clear winner of the debate because of the clear points he made, time
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:20 PM
Mar 2016

and again.

There was no smarm from him -- he was focused on his topics and stuck with them.

Great debate!

Go Bernie!

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