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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 04:15 PM Feb 2012

Santorum is wrong again about prenatal testing - it's about choice, not abortion!

My first daughter was born with a rare chromosome abnormality.

When I became pregnant with my second child, you could be certain I had an amniocentesis done.

The doctor didn't say to me that if this fetus also had an abnormality that I should have an abortion.
What my doctor told me is that it is MY CHOICE and if this child would also be born with special needs that I would have time to prepare.

To Prepare, Rick. To have the choice on what would be best for my child.

It makes me when I hear comments made like this from ignorant people. Just because Santorum also has a special needs child does not make him an expert on the conversations that go on between a pregnant woman and her doctor.

My second child was born without any problems. If she did have a chromosome abnormality, would I have aborted her? I don't know. I am thankful that I did not have to make that choice.



I just had to get that off my chest, I've been fuming about this all weekend!



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WingDinger

(3,690 posts)
1. God help us, if charter schools fail to turn out conservatives, and liberalism is determined inborn.
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 04:23 PM
Feb 2012

they will load women on trucks, like in china.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
2. I wish the AMA and FACOG would speak
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 04:23 PM
Feb 2012

up about RS's lies and deceptions about prenatal care, birth, abortion, and the role of doctors. Their silence on the ignorant bullshit is outrageous.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
3. It may be God's plan, but it's NOT God's womb.
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 04:53 PM
Feb 2012

Last edited Tue Jan 6, 2015, 02:46 AM - Edit history (7)

I've been trying to learn more about the Trisomy 18 that Bella Santorum has. I've come across dozens of videos and Web pages from couples who chose to complete their pregnancies when prenatal testing indicated that their child's condition would not be "compatible with life." Some of the babies were born dead; some lived only a few minutes, hours, weeks, or months. Some lived a few years, requiring all kinds of drugs and therapies, until too many complications set in. A handful have made it past childhood, but only of handful of them are completely independent, and they all have to constantly manage their "developmental delays" and "challenges."

But I didn't come across anything about the people who DO decide to terminate their pregnancies. They don't put up Web sites explaining that they look at compatibility with life as something bigger than just surviving birth, or get to be admired for successfully getting on with their lives (which might even include other healthy pregnancies). And they certainly don't get to boast that they have no regrets about sparing their terminated children an existence of eternal pain and dependence. Of course, that's most likely because they know perfectly well they'd be crucified by the Ayatollah Santorums of this world.

Which side you take in the "compatibility with life" issue is your choice. But banning pre-natal testing takes even that choice away.




rocktivity

jillan

(39,451 posts)
4. Not even to mention all the programs that the RightWingWackos have cut that benefit special children
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 04:59 PM
Feb 2012

and adults!!!

As an advocate for my daughter I went to a meeting to fight against budget cuts being brought to the disabled population of Az by our wonderful governor, Jan Brewer.

There was a woman who got up to speak. She was disformed. Disformed to the point that she needed someone to help her get out of bed and get dressed. She was of normal intelligence and had a great job. Her mind was sharp, her body was disabled. Brewer is trying to take away that person that comes to this woman's home to help her get out of bed and get dressed so she can be a tax-paying, productive member of society.

It is just heartbreaking. Have the special needs baby, but fuck you after that child is born and needs extra care and education.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
5. +1
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 05:03 PM
Feb 2012

What did George Carlin once say about this? "If you're pre-born, you're o.k., if you're pre-school, you're f****d!" Fits the Republican philosophy to a "T".

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Sgent

(5,857 posts)
8. I'm not so sure
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 07:53 AM
Feb 2012

if the woman isn't at least prepared to consider abortion, there is no reason to perform the test. In addition, it does carry some (small) risk.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
9. "to prepare"
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 11:25 AM
Feb 2012

If a family knows they will have a special needs child, they can prepare themselves - research the condition, know more about the specific needs that child may have, etc.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
10. Or they can decide to have an abortion.
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 12:09 PM
Feb 2012

Some of the conditions would result in nothing but child having to go through pain and suffering.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
11. I agree
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 01:25 PM
Feb 2012

I was just pointing out that a person who would never consider abortion might still have the test, so they could prepare for the difficulties ahead (in response to the post that there would be no need for the test if the woman weren't at least prepared to consider abortion).

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
12. Can't it also indicate conditions such as Downs syndrome that would make the pregnancy high-risk?
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 01:41 PM
Feb 2012

For example, a lot of fundamentalist women have their kids at home with midwives and they're active up until the last day, but if the pregnancy was high-risk, going to the hospital and resting more before the baby comes would be the proper course of action.

I've heard the whole "it's part of the abortion culture" argument before and I don't buy it.

I'm guessing that it has more to do with the fact that a lot of "moms of many" are broke and can't afford responsible prenatal care, so they spin it like they're actually being responsible by not having the test done.

We've always been at war with Eastasia.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
17. Bizarre? What's bizarre about spending 12 hours flying halfway across the country
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 02:24 PM
Feb 2012

Last edited Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:30 PM - Edit history (2)

after unexpectedly going into premature labor with what you KNOW is a Down's Syndrome baby? Cancelling the appearance you were scheduled to make, and heading straight to the nearest hospital -- now, THAT'S bizarre!


rocktivity

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