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If Michigan, a large mid western state, goes for Clinton what will the explanations/excuses be? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 OP
No excuses other than she is backed by the party mmonk Mar 2016 #1
the party doesn't vote....people do and she is backed by the people beachbum bob Mar 2016 #2
So people are not affected by spin or identity politics? mmonk Mar 2016 #5
It has been my experience that those who oppose "identity politics"... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #10
I go on policy and facts as I discern them as well as mmonk Mar 2016 #14
I keep it simple and let the people doing the identifying identify themselves./nt DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #16
Super duper delegates. NowSam Mar 2016 #12
How's that logic working for you today? lastone Mar 2016 #33
Whatever explanation or excuse is offered, I'm sure it will be a poor one. But ... NurseJackie Mar 2016 #3
Low-information voters, natch... MineralMan Mar 2016 #4
votes were stolen and hidden on the moon landing set... artyteacher Mar 2016 #6
She cheated nt firebrand80 Mar 2016 #7
What does the Michigan basketball team have to do with this? Human101948 Mar 2016 #8
Only 4 of them... SidDithers Mar 2016 #19
Did you do a survey? Have a source? Human101948 Mar 2016 #23
The party’s smear against Bernie was effective in the South? Really? Gamecock Lefty Mar 2016 #9
The ConservaDem Political Machine is very efficient Armstead Mar 2016 #11
Hillary unfairly brought up Bernie's vote against the auto bailout? (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #13
Misrepresented it Armstead Mar 2016 #18
Now let's be honest.... daleanime Mar 2016 #27
Gremlins. randome Mar 2016 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #17
... SidDithers Mar 2016 #20
Res ipsa loquitur DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #21
What are the excuses for Hillary's losses? whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #22
You're welcome in retrospect. Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #24
MOOT POINT!!!!! morningfog Mar 2016 #25
lol. nt m-lekktor Mar 2016 #26
LOL tularetom Mar 2016 #28
I only heard excuses from Hillary's campaign. Blus4u Mar 2016 #29
We've seen her blow 20, 30, even 55 pt leads over Jarqui Mar 2016 #30
What's your excuse for continuing with this sort of racially divisive meme building? leveymg Mar 2016 #31
Comedy Gold. FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #32
In the cold light of this morning, this OP and some of the comments seem exploitative and assumptive Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #34

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
1. No excuses other than she is backed by the party
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:04 AM
Mar 2016

and Bernie is not. Grassroots campaigns are much more difficult, especially in getting your message out. I do know the party's smear against Bernie was effective in the southern campaign.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
10. It has been my experience that those who oppose "identity politics"...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:23 AM
Mar 2016

It has been my experience that those who oppose "identity politics" are okay with folks "identifying" themselves as long as they "identify" with them.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
14. I go on policy and facts as I discern them as well as
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:29 AM
Mar 2016

life experiences. I also go where I see truth and compassion.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
3. Whatever explanation or excuse is offered, I'm sure it will be a poor one. But ...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:11 AM
Mar 2016

... maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. We'll have to just wait and see if they exceed my admittedly low expectations.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
23. Did you do a survey? Have a source?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:40 AM
Mar 2016

I'm talking about that basketball team.

Or is that your usual BS? (And I don't mean Bernie Sanders.)

On edit: I did a bit of research--

African Americans support former Secretary of State Clinton by more than a 3-to-1 margin nationwide, but among young blacks 18 to 29 years old, that margin shrinks to 46 percent for Clinton versus 33 percent for Sanders, according to recent Reuters/Ipsos polling.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-sanders-blacks-idUSMTZSAPEC2CG4VQ3S

So your supposition about the team is shaky to say the least.

Gamecock Lefty

(700 posts)
9. The party’s smear against Bernie was effective in the South? Really?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:20 AM
Mar 2016

Well why the hell didn’t that so-called smear work in Maine and Nebraska? Newsflash – because there wasn’t one!

And now that Hillary is beginning to establish her dominance BS supporters are crying “grassroots campaigns are really hard and getting your message out is difficult.” When we actually heard just the opposite months ago!

Fact is people in the Democratic Party like Hillary better than Bernie. Some of us like Bernie OK, but we really like Hillary as is shown by her strong numbers within OUR party. Is Hillary a perfect candidate? No, but no one is, not even the ‘beloved’ Bernie. Bernie simply picked a bad year to change his political affiliation to Democrat when so many of us are backing Hillary.

If Bernie had stayed Independent his supporters could have crowned him King and run as a third party.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
15. Gremlins.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:30 AM
Mar 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Blus4u

(608 posts)
29. I only heard excuses from Hillary's campaign.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 09:56 AM
Mar 2016

And that was that "they had misread the electorate" in Michigan.

Peace

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
30. We've seen her blow 20, 30, even 55 pt leads over
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 09:57 AM
Mar 2016

a month or more.

but she blew a 21.4 pt lead in a day !!

.. a 23-24 pt swing.

That's wild. A major choke.

One question some folks might ask themselves:
if Bernie can do that to her, what can the GOP do to a candidate like that?

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
31. What's your excuse for continuing with this sort of racially divisive meme building?
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 10:06 AM
Mar 2016

Fail. She's failing. The guilt-trip approach doesn't work for her anymore.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
34. In the cold light of this morning, this OP and some of the comments seem exploitative and assumptive
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 10:21 AM
Mar 2016

Good Morning!!!!!

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