I agree. Bernie shouldn't have said, "Excuse me. I was talking."

[CoffeeCat]

As usual, the Clinton supporters have the vapors over a non issue--Bernie Sanders saying, "Excuse me, I was talking" during last night's debate.

HRC deserved to have a lot more lobbed at her. She got off easy, in my opinion. Sanders should have hit her hard with some truth bombs--and no apologies. This was a debate between grown adults, right? How about a bit of humor? Or some outrage thrown right back at her--which her policies certainly deserve.

I can think of a few sentences that begin with "Excuse me..." that would have been more appropriate.

"Excuse me, but I think I hear Wall Street calling, they've got another bag of money for your campaign. I'll continue debating while you attend to your main constituency."

"Excuse me, but I was talking. If you don't stop interrupting, I'm afraid I'm going to have to borrow your husband's bullhorn!"

"Excuse me, but I did vote for the auto bailout. However, I didn't vote for the auto bailout that was a Wall Street giveaway. Unlike you, who never misses a chance 'make it rain' for your buddies at Goldman!"

#ExcuseMeHillary

[panader0]

1. I like the bullhorn idea. He should bring one to their next meeting and put it on the podium.

[CoffeeCat]

2. LOL!

Yes, that would have been a great visual!

"Excuse me, but I've got a bullhorn and I'm not afraid to ask you really loudly for your Goldman speech transcripts!"

[yourpaljoey]

8. Get the butter... you're on a roll! :)

[KansDem]

43. "I've got a bullhorn...and I'm not afraid to use it!!"

[cherokeeprogressive]

18. Bullhorn Bernie. LOL! nt

[blondie58]

37. Bill could tell him

Where to get one,

[bvar22]

79. That pathetic episode reminded me of a Bourbon Street Clip Joint Roper...

..(the greasy guy standing outside on the sidewalk trying to lure the suckers inside),
or a "barker" at a cheap carnival trying to con rubes into a rip off side show or rigged game.

[Fairgo]

92. Step right up!

That's right, it filets, it chops, it dices, slices,
Never stops, lasts a lifetime, mows your lawn
And it mows your lawn and it picks up the kids from school
It gets rid of unwanted facial hair, it gets rid of embarrassing age spots,
It delivers a pizza, and it lengthens, and it strengthens
And it finds that slipper that's been at large
under the chaise lounge for several weeks
And it plays a mean Rhythm Master,
It makes excuses for unwanted lipstick on your collar
And it's only a dollar, step right up, it's only a dollar, step right up
-Tom Waits

[Plucketeer]

95. I love Tom Waits

Love this particular number too. But it sounds like a campaign pitch from Trump!

[Buzz Clik]

3. So, instead of being blunt and edgy, ...

... he should have mimicked his base and been rude and vulgar.

[hollysmom]

21. I find this comment offensive to all the bernie supporters on this board.

is that what you are trying to do or was this an accident?

[Buzz Clik]

25. Fascinating:

Do you deny reading these kinds of comments about HRC every single day:

"Excuse me, but I think I hear Wall Street calling, they've got another bag of money for your campaign. I'll continue debating while you attend to your main constituency."

"Excuse me, but I was talking. If you don't stop interrupting, I'm afraid I'm going to have to borrow your husband's bullhorn!"

"Excuse me, but I did vote for the auto bailout. However, I didn't vote for the auto bailout that was a Wall Street giveaway. Unlike you, who never misses a chance 'make it rain' for your buddies at Goldman!"

Do you find it unthinkable that an HRC supporter might just find these comments vulgar and rude?

For you to claim some sort of offense at my comments is a classic case of blaming the victim.

[hollysmom]

29. I find most posts offensive lately however those are not posts by people on this board.

I find lying about people's records also offensive and your apparent candidate of choice apparently does that as well, I just don't feel like getting into a cherry picking contest with you.


I was talking about board civility here, this is a different discussion. I try to never flag comments, but guess that would work better than trying to talk to people about differences like in the real world.

[CoffeeCat]

59. Asking to borrow Bill's bullhorn is not vulgar

Especially if Bernie asks nicely.

[JDPriestly]

88. What is vulgar about those statements?

What is rude?

They are jokes based on Hillary's own conduct.

There is certainly nothing vulgar about them, and nothing rude.

Hillary has taken extreme amounts of money from Wall Street.

And her husband appeared in front of a polling place in Massachusetts with a bullhorn.

And Hillary did vote for a Wall Street giveaway that included an auto bailout.

There is nothing vulgar or rude in those statements in my view. They simply make jokes about what Hillary and Bill have done.

[jalan48]

26. Rude and Vulgar? The Aristocracy is outraged to be addressed by a commoner like Bernie this way.

[Buzz Clik]

34. Bernie didn't write the post.

[jalan48]

35. Rude and vulgar! Well! How dare they?

[Buzz Clik]

39. Having fun?

[Jester Messiah]

48. I'm certainly getting some entertainment out of it.

Which is nice, because I don't usually expect entertainment value out of these "HARUMPH! Of all the nerve...!" subthreads.

[senz]

60. Yeh.

Gotta problem with that?

[chapdrum]

101. Exactly; how dare you?

Well put.

[MrMickeysMom]

61. Are you calling me rude and vulgar?

[Buzz Clik]

62. Am I?

This is your first post on this thread.

My guess is you're trying to elicit some sort of response. You won't be getting it.

[MrMickeysMom]

64. Nice try to not answer the question you directed at me and others...

I didn't think we had to get in line at the top of the thread. Is that some kind of new Buzz Clik thread policy?

[Buzz Clik]

65. What are you going on about?

I don't care. Have the last word.

Sweet jeebus.

[MrMickeysMom]

71. I asked a question...

Since you feel Sanders supporters are rude and vulgar, that must include me. That sounds pretty harsh since you are painting supporters like myself at DU with a mighty broad brush.

If you don't care to respond, I'll take that as someone who walks back from their statement. The next time you decide to call out rude and vulgar persons, you might want to take a more honest approach.

[magical thyme]

69. "Excuse me, I was talking" is neither blunt nor edgy. However, interrupting others when it is their

turn to speak is rude, plain and simple.

That's why I can't watch debates. It makes my head explode; my mother would scream the crap out of us if we interrupted her when she was talking.

That's what I just *love* about interrupters like Hillary. Do it to them (which nobody does) and they go into meltdown mode. But they have no qualms about doing it to everybody else, and then when they get called on it, they still go into meltdown mode.

[GoneOffShore]

100. Perfect cartoon. Shows the Janus that is HRC.

And the mantle of victimhood she continues to don at every available opportunity.

[Uglystick]

105. +1

Love that pic. So true!!!!!!!!!!

[Trajan]

4. If someone constantly steps over your words as you try to speak

You have every right to request they cease and desist their unwarranted intrusions...

Not that Hillary supporters understand what rudeness even means ... It is my experience that few remain here who are sensitive to such basic courtesies ...

Perhaps Skinner ...

[Mufaddal]

5. One of the best responses I have seen so far, from an AJ+ producer:

francesca fiorentini ‏@franifio

Proud feminist here— did I miss the ‘LISTEN SWEETIE’ before Sanders said ‘I’m talking here’? Cause that’s called debate not sexism.

https://twitter.com/franifio/status/706872406975979525

[Major Hogwash]

6. "Excuse me, but you voted for the Iraq War."

That one stumps her completely. She didn't even read the NIE before she voted!!!!!!!!!

[TheBlackAdder]

7. It would be, "Excuse me, I am talking!" (present tense), but those interuptions do more...

.


It's a ploy to distract and redirect thoughts when a person is losing an argument. While Sanders stayed on topic, the audience's attention was redirected. So it was successful.

It's a ploy to show power over someone else. While it's rude, it shows that the rude person has power--this is what helps to make Trump appear even more successful. It's kind of a Rovian tactic.


When someone has Borderline Personality Disorder, they do that often to try and change the subject so they are not cornered. So, if this is going to be a new campaign tactic, it opens up a DSM-IV question on personality traits.

.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

27. He reminded me of my hero, Doctor Who

The Ninth Doctor

[arcane1]

77. And it's a standard technique for interviewers on Fox n/t

[Vinca]

9. Or, there's always the tried and true STFU.

If they've got their drawers in knots over this, how on earth could she face a bully like Trump?

[passiveporcupine]

19. Can we give him little signs on a stick

to hold up at appropriate times...like a sign that says STFU, or No, that's a lie!

What other signs can we make for him?

[CoffeeCat]

24. "Ask her about Libya" (nt)

[Fuddnik]

32. Or Honduras.

[noiretextatique]

81. +1000 She needs to be grilled about Honduras

Her role, and The Clinton Foundation's too.

[Divernan]

23. She & Trump would degenerate into trying to outshout each other.

[AtomicKitten]

87. That would be an unfortunate match-up of.bombastic blowhards.

[woodsprite]

10. I wish he would have hit her on the private prisons as well. n/t

[questionseverything]

14. she is still taking their money

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511435306

[Skwmom]

11. LOL. n/t

[Lizzie Poppet]

12. Love those responses! 'Speshly "...borrow your husband's bullhorn."

[Broward]

13. He should bring a bell to the next debate and ring it each time she lies.

The ringing may never stop, but that's ok.

[CoffeeCat]

15. Ohhh, that would be tricky.

Because suddenly, it wouldn't be a debate. It would be a musical.

[Broward]

22. It'd be music to my ears.

[Kalidurga]

73. Or he could bark.

But, then he would be like Bill Maher's dog barking at a pine cone for 9 days straight.
http://archives.politicususa.com/2011/08/06/bill-maher-donner-party.html

[dchill]

16. K&R!

[MisterP]

17. they get where they are by nobody standing up to them: unfortunately they've breahed the flood-wall

[silvershadow]

20. #ExcuseMeHillary. That's a keeper for sure! nt

[Betty Karlson]

28. Excuse me, Mrs. Clinton: I was listening to someone with integrity.

Kindly hold your bought and paid for tongue; there will be plenty of time for you to rattle of your rehearsed talking points and triangulated, focus-grouped and polled phrases. But now, we are listening to someone who doesn't need all that.

[Enthusiast]

41. Oh, baby! +1!

[notadmblnd]

30. She was rude to interrupt

We were all taught that interrupting someone speaking is rude.

[Paper Roses]

33. Thank you. Yes, we all know it is rude. She was wrong to overtalk Bernie.

I'm sure most of us were taught that interrupting is rude. Why are HRC's supporters forgetting this courtesy? Bernie was right and
interjected in a polite way.

[Octafish]

38. CNN should've cut her mike.

As they didn't, letting Hillary drone on and on and interrupt at will and at length provided instead a "wonderful" opportunity to show how rude Bernie is.

What it actually shows is the corrupt nature of the press.

[brewens]

31. How about "pardon the hell out of me" for starters. I always like that

one. "Pardon the hell out of me, but if you close the hole in your face once in awhile, you might be able to hear what other people are saying!"

[truedelphi]

55. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ n/t

[Gwhittey]

36. If Sanders was a sexist

He would be bringing up Bill's whoring around. But he is not going to resort to that. It is just hard to bet a Republican in a DNC primary when you are using Democrat campaign values and opponent is using GOP style ones.

[Enthusiast]

40. Kicked and recommended! This post should have a bazillion of recommendations! eom

[RoccoR5955]

42. How about, "Excuse me, your highness, but I was talking."

If Bernie had addressed her as the queen that many of her supporters think that she is, do you think that her supporters would understand? Perhaps they should have just let the queen speak, then asked for her permission to continue his statement.

[monicaangela]

44. Yes CoffeeCat

This is a lot of Brouhaha about nothing. Excuse me is the term we need to be interested in, it means... . I am sorry to interrupt you. This is what Bernie said before adding I am talking. She had interrupted him over and over, talked over him, ignored the moderated when they wanted her to stop talking, so I believe he was absolutely within his right to say, if you can't understand that I am trying to make a statement, then I am going to have to ask you as nicely as I know how to please excuse me, but I AM talking.

[zentrum]

45. Agreed. She got off easy.

This is a red herring.

[xloadiex]

46. I hope someone has the sound bite

Of when Anderson was trying to go to commercial and she kept going on and on and on, talking over him every time he tried to say, "excuse me secretary Clinton." She wouldn't shut up. I was hoping they were going to just cut away.

[Cleita]

47. If it were me, I would have told her to shut up and wait her turn.

But I don't curtsey to royalty anyway.

[SDJay]

49. Moderators

should be able to cut the mics of people who won't follow the debate rules. It happens constantly in every debate I've seen and it's not only bad form but really, really annoying. If you just try to run over the moderator with a verbal machine gun, cut the mic off and move on to your commercial, next question, next candidate, whatever. HRC deserved to have her mic cut off more than once last night but Cooper just cowered when she talked right past him several times.

[kath]

83. THIS. She really does need to be "brought to heel" on this, to use a favorite phrase of hers.

She is so, so, so odious.

[Turn CO Blue]

50. Unfortunately for her, it will not difficult to find several clips of her talking over people or

interrupting people or speaking more loudly over someone or continueing to speak when it is clearly time to pause and let someone else speak or RESPOND.

Just think of all the video clips of the debates with Obama (or whoever she debated in NY), and with Ashley Williams, other BLM activists, interviews with reporters, with those townhall questions....

Her campaign is really walking into it here by making a HUGE deal of this - because I'm sure someone could EASILY string together 10 or 20 examples of her interrupting people into a humorous video (with sound effects too). Ack, going to totally backfire. And with the hashtag #ExcuseMeHillary it's going to trend.

On a personal note, I have a current friend who does the same thing (starts talking over me, doesn't let me finish my sentence, and even when she asks me a question, starts speaking LOUDLY over me) -- so I am QUITE familiar with this unfortunate habit. I am going to have to assert myself more forcefully, this has been going on a couple of visits a month for a year and half.

And trust me, it IS rude. And I believe it shows a lack of respect for me. Hence, why I need to deal with my similar interruptor.

[polly7]

54. I have a friend like that too ........ it's exhausting being with her at times

because if I don't talk she's asking me what's wrong, when I do she just interrupts and almost yells over me.

It's draining. I can imagine how frustrating it must be for someone trying to debate her and clarify things with such a short time to do it in. It would take a lot more patience than I will ever have.

[Aerows]

75. My sister is like that

You can't politely get away from a conversation with her once she has engaged you in one, but has absolutely no intention of allowing you to actually contribute to said conversation.

It's pretty much "I'm talking, giving you my opinion, and you are going to sit here and listen, so stop trying to get a word in edgewise or get away from me. Stop squirming!"

[bvar22]

103. I also know a woman like that.

She doesn't want a conversation.
She wants an audience for her monologue.

[NJCher]

104. Hey co blue

I'm an interpersonal communication teacher, and I have a 5-step technique that could help you when you talk with them. If you want it, let me know and I will send it to you by pm.

Cher

[Turn CO Blue]

106. Yes, please do :)

[senz]

51. "Excuse me, did no one ever teach you not to interrupt?"

[Indepatriot]

52. How about.

STFU you lying, duplicitous, shapeshifting Tool Of Wall Street.

[senz]

53. "Excuse me, but you seem to have forgotten your manners."

[senz]

56. "Excuse me, my hearing aid's turned off. Could you shout a little louder?"

[senz]

57. "Excuse me, could you pass me some Grey Poupon?"

[Uncle Joe]

58. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, CoffeeCat.

[senz]

63. "Excuse me, do you come here often?"

[Optimism]

66. This thread reminds me ...

... of why I love Bernie supporters so much. I needed these laughs this morning!

If the Hillary folk get upset when an opponent uses the polite words "Excuse me..." to attempt to stop her interrupting ways, well ... good luck 'debating' Trump!

Gotta say ... borrowing Bill's bullhorn line had me in stitches!

Help out in Michigan, y'all !!

[senz]

67. (Excuse me, I seem to have developed a case of the giggles.)

Perhaps we need a comedy thread or group for Primary Relief?

[lunatica]

68. If someone can't handle that statement they need to forget about having a public life.

that's way too thin skinned.

[Dont call me Shirley]

70. Interrupting others is a rude bad habit. Bernie had every right to call her out on it!

[SoapBox]

72. ROFL

I SO want to see Bernie pull out a Bully Bill Bullhorn and right in her ear on full volume...Excuse Me!

Look for it on SNL!

[Kalidurga]

74. Excuse me Hillary, the NRA is on the phone and they want to hold another fundraiser for you.

[Ferd Berfel]

76. BS He should have said it. - THIS.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511431812

[olddots]

78. I think he should have started snoring

then asked her if she said something .

[noiretextatique]

80. LOL

Excuse me, but please explain your role in the Hounduras coup, and subsequent murder of activists?

[TBF]

82. The bullhorn one is my favorite! nt

[Ken Burch]

84. He could have worked in a John Belushi"Well Excuuuuuuuuuse MEEEE!!!!!!!" routine

"We could have had single-payer...we could have stopped the TPP...we could have taxed the rich...Buuuuuut NOOOOOOOOOO!....."

[Beartracks]

86. Wasn't that Steve Martin?

Ah, yep. Here we go:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=steve+martin+excuse+me&view=detail&mid=F34F6724DB2660D1B80EF34F6724DB2660D1B80E&FORM=VIRE

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[Ken Burch]

90. Belushi had something simillar on SNL. n/t.

[eShirl]

94. "But noooooooo!"

[Feeling the Bern]

85. "Excuse me, but the only candidate that doesn't love Kissinger or worked for Wal-mart is speaking."

"Excuse me, but the candidate fought for civil rights while you campaigned for the man that voted against the CRA of 1964 is speaking."

[AtomicKitten]

89. Next time she interrupts he should just point this at her.

[Lunabell]

91. She has her nerve.

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[CoffeeCat]

97. LOL!!

Ok, that pretty much that encapsulates this whole situation.

They initially tried to get some mileage out of this by accusing Bernie of being a hard-lined sexist.

They've got the whole "Bernie is a racist" thing going now. So they're busy with that and turned their attention to other smears.

Post debate, the Clinton camp threw quite a bit at the wall--and now they feel that they can do the most damage with the racist smears and accusations.

I'm sure they'll be back to hit him on the "Bernie is a piece of shit sexist" meme fairly soon.

They seem to toggle back and forth between the two lies.

[silenttigersong]

93. Yeah

Coffe Cat keep it up!

[ellennelle]

98. i disagree

he had every right to call her out on interrupting!

i've been noticing her tendency to do this increasingly thru the debates, and i got frustrated with her long before bernie did!

just because she's a woman does not give her the right to interrupt with impunity!

i do agree with your other points tho, wholeheartedly!

[Baitball Blogger]

99. Perfect example of a non-issue and feminists are over-reaching.

You want to be treated like a man? Well, those words Bernie used are exactly how a man would have said it to another man. Especially in a political debate where someone is taking more time than they are allotted.

And guess what. If she can't handle it from Bernie, she certainly isn't going to handle it from Putin or any other male world leader.

[DrBulldog]

102. When it happened, I was yelling at the TV screen . . .

"Excuse me, Hillary, but STFU!"