2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe question now is this: Can an honest politician beat a dishonest one?
In this day and age when the forces of the subjective MSM and the forces of social media and the forces of Atwater-Rove playbooks are all available...
Can an honest politician who will not stoop to tricks and dodges and cleverly calculated gotcha "pieces" inserted into remarks win over one who does?
What say you?
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)Never thought I'd see the day.
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)Herman4747
(1,825 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)But it will take a collective effort from that politician's supporters to get the word out whenever the other person lies. These days the press is more interested in a quick attention grabbing headline than they are about the truth behind a story, so we have to be on our toes in getting the truth out there.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)The very demonstration of it.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)In a Presidential race it's seems to favor the dishonest people.
Jimmy Carter as very honest, as far as I know and he was elected.
Bernie was elected to the Senate and I trust his integrity.
But, I don't know whether their opponents were honest or not.
Good question though.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)And, yes, I still seem him as essentially "honest", despite it all.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)And I don't want to derail this discussion. I wish I could admire him as much as I want to.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)But, the point is that Obama defeated Hillary and I believe Sanders can too.
I was an early campaigner for Obama, and this year feels very much like 2008. Difference is that Obama had the Black vote that was able to break for him as a game-changer. Sanders needs his game changer, and I'm not sure what that is. But I think one exists, so long as he stays in.
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)Obama has defeated a few dishonest politicians. Hillary, McCain, Romney....
senz
(11,945 posts)ReallyIAmAnOptimist
(357 posts)are because of the internet and social media,
and not the corporate media (which older demographics rely on).
Lorien
(31,935 posts)"yes"!
H2O Man
(73,524 posts)It can be extremely difficult, yet it can be accomplished .....if enough people exercise their constitutional rights and responsibilities by voting.
Uncle Joe
(58,330 posts)has grown enough to counter balance the top down, one way propaganda spewed to the people by the CMCs.
Thanks for the thread, grasswire.
jillan
(39,451 posts)as much as they try cannot take this away from him.....