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GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:02 AM Mar 2016

New Sanders Radio Ad Sets Record Straight on Clinton’s Dishonest Attack on Auto Industry Rescue

DETROIT – Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign on Monday released a new radio ad responding to Hillary Clinton’s dishonest and negative attack on his support in 2008 for an automobile industry rescue package.

Sanders on Dec. 11, 2008, voted for a $14 billion auto rescue package. During a debate Monday in Flint, Michigan, Clinton falsely claimed he opposed the assistance for carmakers and auto workers.

The ad, which will be broadcast on radio stations across Michigan, says Sanders “has always been on the side of Michigan workers and working families.” He not only voted for the auto rescue package, “he’s the only candidate who’s opposed the job-killing trade deals that have crushed manufacturing.”

Clinton, the ad says, is “trying to distort the truth about Bernie’s record.”

The ad quotes an article in The Washington Post suggesting that Clinton was trying to deceive voters on the eve of Tuesday’s Michigan primary election. The Post said Clinton “glosses over a lot . . . including the fact that Sanders is actually on the record as supporting the auto bailout. He even voted for it.” The Post also said of Clinton, “it seems like she’s willing to take the gamble that fact checkers may call her out for her tactic… but that voters won’t.”

The ad concludes by saying that “Michigan voters deserve better than typical Washington tactics. Hoping voters don’t figure out what you’re up to till it’s too late. There’s only one candidate who honestly tells it like it is and isn’t afraid of standing up for Michigan workers and that’s Bernie Sanders.”


https://berniesanders.com/radio-ad-sets-record-straight/

Ad audio at link.
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New Sanders Radio Ad Sets Record Straight on Clinton’s Dishonest Attack on Auto Industry Rescue (Original Post) GreatGazoo Mar 2016 OP
thank goodness. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #1
It's a good one. I wonder which stations they bought on. Barack_America Mar 2016 #2
This as should have said more clearly Hillary Clinton supported NAFTA Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #3
Great!...I am posting the Radio Ad transcript for some... Segami Mar 2016 #4
It's sad that it's come to this. HerbChestnut Mar 2016 #5
Milhous would be proud Segami Mar 2016 #9
YES!!!! I am x-posting this in the Bernie group to make sure everyone see this. Thank you!! jillan Mar 2016 #6
Makes me proud to donate to his campaign knowing it is being so wisely spent. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #7
I hope that people get all the facts flamingdem Mar 2016 #8
Great ad... radio's cheaper and reaches more, I think MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #10
And you can produce an ad faster nxylas Mar 2016 #23
Good for Bernie! Punkingal Mar 2016 #11
It is good to correct Clinton when she blatantly lies on behalf of her Wall-St.-beholden campaign. xocet Mar 2016 #12
And, just say'n...CBS News said an "expert" said NAFTA resulted in negligible job losses. SoapBox Mar 2016 #13
I can think of at least 5 production facilities that relocated from Northern Arkansas Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #15
My husband's grandfather owned a cattle ranch when NAFTA was passed. It destroyed liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #17
And now the country of origin labeling rules for beef and pork have been repealed Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #18
yep. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #19
Here's Hillary Clinton's TV Ad... gordyfl Mar 2016 #14
She is such a LIAR. peacebird Mar 2016 #26
The industry required $87bil. Bernie said no. JohnnyRingo Mar 2016 #16
agree - spinning the facts DrDan Mar 2016 #25
Bernie Sanders voted monicaangela Mar 2016 #28
That was not a feather in his political cap. JohnnyRingo Mar 2016 #30
Bernie Sanders is principled and if the rest of congress were monicaangela Mar 2016 #33
Exactly right! ljm2002 Mar 2016 #36
K&R zentrum Mar 2016 #20
K & R! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #21
Great! pat_k Mar 2016 #22
Cheap Election Tactics gordyfl Mar 2016 #24
It's still bad enough. JohnnyRingo Mar 2016 #31
I Wonder Why... gordyfl Mar 2016 #34
"his $14bil bill"????? ljm2002 Mar 2016 #37
More Dirty Politics monicaangela Mar 2016 #27
Bernie is not being accurate Demsrule86 Mar 2016 #29
You say... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #38
It's a complete distortion and she knows it EndElectoral Mar 2016 #32
Lie, Cheat and Steal... DONE with the Clintons. AzDar Mar 2016 #35
 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
3. This as should have said more clearly Hillary Clinton supported NAFTA
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:07 AM
Mar 2016

She supported more imports with China just to help her billionaire friends who own Walmart.

It's defensive. Bernie needs to attack not just defend.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
4. Great!...I am posting the Radio Ad transcript for some...
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:11 AM
Mar 2016
ANNOUNCER:

Bernie Sanders has always been on the side of Michigan workers and working families.

Bernie voted for the auto rescue package and he’s the only candidate who’s opposed the job killing trade deals that have crushed manufacturing.

But, Washington has always had a funny relationship with the truth.

So it’s not surprising his opponent is out with a new radio ad trying to distort the truth about Bernie’s record.

The Washington Post spells things out pretty clearly, stating his opponent’s campaign quote “glosses over a lot . . . including the fact that Sanders is actually on the record as supporting the auto bailout. He even voted for it.” unquote.

The Post goes further claiming quote "it seems like she's willing to take the gamble that fact checkers may call her out for her tactic... but that voters won’t.” Unquote.

Michigan voters deserve better than typical Washington tactics: Hoping voters don’t figure out what you’re up to till its too late.

There’s only one candidate who honestly tells it like it is and isn’t afraid of standing up for Michigan workers and that’s Bernie Sanders.


BERNIE:

I’m Bernie Sanders, candidate for President, and I approve this message.


ANNOUNCER:

Paid for by Bernie 2016.
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
5. It's sad that it's come to this.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:14 AM
Mar 2016

Outright lying about your opponent's position is unacceptable and not a trait that displays leadership.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
8. I hope that people get all the facts
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:19 AM
Mar 2016

It would be a shame to see Hillary win but know it was about her "skillfull" attack.

xocet

(3,871 posts)
12. It is good to correct Clinton when she blatantly lies on behalf of her Wall-St.-beholden campaign.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 01:03 AM
Mar 2016

n/t

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
13. And, just say'n...CBS News said an "expert" said NAFTA resulted in negligible job losses.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 01:09 AM
Mar 2016

Really? Tell that to the entire manufacturing industry employees.

Such lies and blatant distortion.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
15. I can think of at least 5 production facilities that relocated from Northern Arkansas
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:12 AM
Mar 2016

to Mexico after NAFTA passed--
Whirlpool (Ft. Smith)
Emerson Electric (Rogers)
Guardian Industries (Rogers)
Levi's (Fayetteville and Harrison)

There are probably more.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
17. My husband's grandfather owned a cattle ranch when NAFTA was passed. It destroyed
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:22 AM
Mar 2016

cattle prices here in the US.

JohnnyRingo

(18,618 posts)
16. The industry required $87bil. Bernie said no.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:13 AM
Mar 2016

So Sanders tried unsuccessfully to offer up about 15% of the money needed in a bill he likely knew would fail a divided Congress. Meanwhile, when the more popular TARP was poised to pass with bipartisan favor he joined Mitt Romney in saying "let GM fail".

I was three months away from losing my GM pension when Obama announced he'd take $87bil from TARP to save the livelihood of thousands of UAW workers here near Lordstown OH where the award winning Cruze is proudly built to this day. I don't see how Bernie Sanders was implement in that happening.

This sounds like 100% damage control spin.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
28. Bernie Sanders voted
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 08:38 AM
Mar 2016

Against TARP, not the auto bailout. As a matter of fact he advocated for the bill that would bail out the auto industry, not for the CEO's or the corporations themselves, but for the workers. Check out C-span videos from the time, you can find many speeches that prove what I am saying.

JohnnyRingo

(18,618 posts)
30. That was not a feather in his political cap.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:16 AM
Mar 2016

Had the rest of Congress followed Sanders' lead it would absolutely have pushed the country into full blown economic depression. I can only assume Bernie knew his vote against TARP would be overridden by his peers and considered it a symbolic protest vote. Well, that principled stand came back to bite him in the ass.

The bottom line is that Sanders voted against the bill that would bail out the auto industry only because it included money for his bugaboo cause: big banks and Wall Street. If that's how he would govern from the White House it would reflect shortsightedness and immaturity to an alarming degree.

I understand why Bernie people are running extreme damage control, this has left an undeniable mark on his campaign. It's going to take more than shouting people down and blaming Clinton to fix it.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
33. Bernie Sanders is principled and if the rest of congress were
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:38 PM
Mar 2016

we wouldn't have been in the mess in the first place.

1991 savings and loan bailout:



2008 Bank bailout:

gordyfl

(598 posts)
24. Cheap Election Tactics
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 07:53 AM
Mar 2016

Clinton charging Sanders with not supporting the auto industry bailout is a pretty clear example of cheap election-year tactics where you hope the talking point will resonate more loudly than the fact-checkers.

Sanders supported the auto industry rescue, but did not want it to be part of the TARP vote. And it was not known that TARP would be used for the auto rescue at the time of the vote.

JohnnyRingo

(18,618 posts)
31. It's still bad enough.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:28 AM
Mar 2016

First of all, his $14bil bill wasn't nearly enough to bring the companies out of failure. The final number needed was $87bil. Sanders had to know his anemic offer would not pass his Republican peers in Congress who desperately wanted GM and the UAW to fail.

Second, if Congress had followed Sanders' lead on TARP it would have plunged the country into full blown depression costing taxpayers much more than the $800bil final tab. I can assume Bernie cast what he thought was a protest vote that he knew would be overridden with bipartisan favor.

The bottom line is that Sanders voted against the money that saved GM because it funded a bail out of his prime bugaboo: big banks and Wall Street. If Bernie would govern the White House with such a narrow vision it shows a lack of maturity and ability to see the big picture.

I get that his supporters are running damage control on this, it's leaving a mark on his campaign. The bailout is personal to me, a GM retiree who is proud of the Chevy Cruze built near here in Lordstown Ohio. It's going to take more than shouting people down and blaming Clinton to fix this.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
37. "his $14bil bill"?????
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:53 PM
Mar 2016

"his anemic offer"

It wasn't Bernie's bill, it wasn't Bernie's "offer". Bernie voted on a bill drafted by Barney Frank.

Please, try to be a little bit honest here.

As far as the TARP bailout, please remember, the primary focus of that bill was the financial industry. And you can call it Bernie's "prime bugaboo", but the fact is that our representatives on both sides of the aisle were receiving input from their constituents that was running something like 100 to 1 against the TARP bailout. And while you are certainly right there were risks to not doing something, the real question is, why were the banks allowed to be made whole at 100 cents to the dollar, while all of us Little People were left twisting in the wind?

Well we all know why: because our government these days is of the oligarchs, by the oligarchs and for the oligarchs.

Bernie voted with the people on TARP. Bernie wants to get us a government that is of the people, by the people and for the people.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
27. More Dirty Politics
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 08:34 AM
Mar 2016

I know it has been said before, but I have to say it again, this woman will say or do anything to gain power. Lie, it is obvious she will do that to get the position. My question is, if she will lie to get the position is she lying about everything some people seem to think she will do once in office. What do I think. I believe you can bet your bottom dollar she will.

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
29. Bernie is not being accurate
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:46 AM
Mar 2016

The December bill was tabled. It went nowhere...the bill that became law was in January...and Bernie did in fact vote against it. He voted against it because it also helped the banks...now bailout were not popular, but I do believe Bernie's motivation was ideological. However, the result would be the same...autos gone. Now those in Michigan closely followed this and know what happened so this radio ad will not help him...hubs works in autos...I live in Ohio by the way.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
38. You say...
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:56 PM
Mar 2016

..."He voted against it because it also helped the banks".

That is some first-rate spin right there.

Also??? You have it backwards. The TARP bill was drafted as a bailout of the banks. Any other provisions that were added, those were the "also" parts.

Please. Try to be a little bit honest.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
32. It's a complete distortion and she knows it
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:30 AM
Mar 2016
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkiley5/2016/03/07/clintons-charges-that-sanders-did-not-support-auto-rescue-is-wrong/#6e390a9a582b

Clinton's Charge That Sanders Did Not Support Auto Rescue Is Wrong
by David kiley


Clinton is trying to paint her challenger, Bernie Sanders, as having been against the auto bailout in 2009. Chalk it up to election year nonsense. The truth is both candidates were in favor of the auto bailout.

In the world of Congressional votes, the truth is seldom seen, but much mischief can be made.

During the debate in Flint, Michigan, a visibly tired Sanders did a poor job of explaining the confusion. I am not a Sanders supporter, but the truth is always important.

Secretary Clinton is chastising Sanders in the Motor State for not voting for the bill that created the funding for an auto bailout. Except, it wasn’t known that the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) bill, designed to bail out Wall Street banks from their subprime mortgage loan debacle that was crashing the economy, would be used to rescue the auto industry at the time Senators Sanders and Clinton voted on it. Clinton voted yay. Sanders voted nay. It was President Bush who signed the bill into law.

Later, in December 2008, the Senate took up a separate bill that would have provided rescue funds specifically for the auto industry. That bill failed to get the 60-vote filibuster-proof minimum when Republicans balked at saving General Motors GM -2.06%, Ford and Chrysler, in large part because they wanted to use the occasion to try and destroy the United Auto Workers union, which stood to benefit from a bailout by having their healthcare fund and pensions protected, and its interests prioritized over bond holders. Both Clinton and Sanders voted for this bill.
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