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Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:32 AM Mar 2016

When is comes the Auto Bail-out, Bernie was "for it before he was against it"

He initially voted for the auto bail-out, but voted against the bill which funded it because he thought that is was more important to stick it to bankers than it was to rescue the auto industry.

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JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
1. Ideological purity often leads to gridlock and stagnation.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:37 AM
Mar 2016

Amendments are added by both party's in a representative govt and each side hopes the outcome serves the greater good.

mwooldri

(10,301 posts)
3. He also knew how many votes the measure had.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:39 AM
Mar 2016

The Senate needs 60 votes to shut off debate, then 51 votes to pass the measure on round 2.

I have no idea how to dig around a voting record to that level of detail but I bet there are times when there was a Democratic majority in the Senate that Bernie voted to end debate but ultimately flipped on the final vote to record his reservations in a symbolic way.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
4. Bernie was right.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:43 AM
Mar 2016

As he usually is. The problem seems to be these omnibus bills that politically dishonest people use as gotchas. Yet another example of the busted system that some of us are trying to fix. But keep playing your games while real people get hurt.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. Fortunately, other members of Congress decided we had to do something. We can argue whether it
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:01 PM
Mar 2016

would have been better to let the whole house of cards collapse at the time. I suspect it was better to bail it out and begin an orderly transition to something safer/better. Had things gone Sanders's way, I don't think we'd be better off right now.

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
6. And he was correct! again!
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:15 PM
Mar 2016

The Billionaire Bankers didn't give a bailout to the millions of people that have lost their homes in foreclosure.
The Billionaire Carmakers didn't give a bailout to the millions of people that get their cars reposed.

It amazes me that anybody could justify bailing out billionaires for their bad financial decisions. But the working people of this country just get a big F U! Anybody that voted for the bailout of billionaires is unfit to hold office.

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
7. No, actually he stood for principal in the face of a big no strings attached gift to the banksters
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:17 PM
Mar 2016

where they held the auto bailout hostage to get enough votes for the bankster bailout

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
8. There was a second bill which he and many others counted on, but it was killed by the republicans.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:17 PM
Mar 2016

It was thoroughly explained by David Gergen that this is a false representation of Bernie's intentions.

thesquanderer

(11,972 posts)
10. 98% of the funds were going to those bankers vs. 2% to the auto industry.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:24 PM
Mar 2016

It might not have been the best deal possible.

Please see my post at http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511442855

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
12. Not handing bankers a trillion dollars of taxpayers' money equals
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:26 PM
Mar 2016

"sticking it to them" - Stubby

What a fucking riot.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
13. I should have used the same instinct I use about stopping and peering into dumpsters,
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:28 PM
Mar 2016

and kept walking past this post.

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