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Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:20 PM

About the word "ghetto"

AS a baby boomer, to me that word means the section of town where African-Americans live. It does not necessarily imply poverty but does recognize housing segregation.

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Reply About the word "ghetto" (Original post)
hedgehog Mar 2016 OP
Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #1
Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #6
Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #7
dana_b Mar 2016 #2
nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #3
msongs Mar 2016 #4
DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #8
KT2000 Mar 2016 #5
grossproffit Mar 2016 #9
hedgehog Mar 2016 #10
grossproffit Mar 2016 #11
pat_k Mar 2016 #12
BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #13

Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:22 PM

1. Lots of people have misconceptions about the meaning of words.

 

A hard core social activist knows what a ghetto is.

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:59 PM

6. Hard core social activist

 

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 8, 2016, 01:02 PM

7. Yep. He should know what a ghetto is.

 

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:24 PM

2. I relate it to segregation also

for AA people and Jewish people due to the Nazis.

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:26 PM

3. And a Jew it has a few more meanings too

 

What some folks here are doing is vile, and here is the transcript

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511439516

and a full discussionhttp://www.democraticunderground.com/12511436844



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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:30 PM

4. word meanings change over time. some people will not accept those changes. life goes on nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 8, 2016, 01:03 PM

8. The obscurantism makes my head hurt./nt

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:54 PM

5. commonly used during the civil rights era

remember the Elvis song about the ghetto?
His use of the word only showed his age, nothing more.

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Tue Mar 8, 2016, 01:06 PM

9. Ghetto = poor in America.

That's what people associate with the word. Much like living in the "hood."

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Tue Mar 8, 2016, 01:29 PM

10. From Merriam Webster:

Full Definition of ghetto

plural ghettos also ghettoes

1
: a quarter of a city in which Jews were formerly required to live

2
: a quarter of a city in which members of a minority group live especially because of social, legal, or economic pressure

3
a : an isolated group <a geriatric ghetto> b : a situation that resembles a ghetto especially in conferring inferior status or limiting opportunity <the pink-collar ghetto>

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ghetto

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 8, 2016, 01:43 PM

11. a part of a city in which members of a particular group live in poor conditions

from your link.

GHETTO Defined for Kids: a part of a city in which members of a particular group live in poor conditions

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:27 PM

12. Traditional use is problematic. I wish he had acknowledged this.

Your point, and his clarification based on the traditional use of the term, are correct, as indicated by definition in Wikipedia.

A ghetto is a part of a city in which members of a minority group live, especially because of social, legal, or economic pressure.


But, the traditional use of the term, particularly in the context he used it, creates a problematic generalization. I wish he had acknowledged this in his clarification.

I don't think there is much argument that his statements are not a problem. Clearly, the way he expressed himself was apparently offensive to at least some of his potential supporters, intended or not. And that's a problem.

I'm not trying to smear. I'm a Bernie supporter. As such, I wish he had expressed himself better during the debate, or failing that, had done a better job of clarifying.

But done is done. Time to move on and just avoid statements that appear to embody such generalizations.

Nobody's perfect.

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Response to hedgehog (Original post)

Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:38 PM

13. By using the term in the 21st century

he should have gone on and completed the '60s visualization by saying that this is where his "soul brothers" the "Negroes" lived so "honkys" can never understand.

I.e., there are at least 2 generations that have been born since those terms were in de rigeur usage, all of which have taken on increasingly stereotypical alternate meanings.

It's like being a bug trapped in amber, forever preserved from some ancient past.

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