Fusion: The real reason Bernie and Hillary supporters can’t seem to get along

[Mufaddal]

This is a fascinating article that presents a cogent argument for the underlying ideological divide that makes this primary so unusual.

The Democratic primary between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders has been far more bitter and nasty than anyone imagined a few months ago. One big reason is that they have fundamentally different views on what government should do. Clinton believes that government should help create a fair and just Land of Opportunity. Sanders believes that government should work to create a Land of Equality. He is challenging the very idea that a meritocracy is a good and just ideal to strive for.

“Bernie Sanders is running as a social democrat, specifically a Nordic-style social democrat,” Matt Bruenig, an influential writer who focuses on political theory, told me.

“The animating goal of social democracy in the modern era,” he went on, “is egalitarianism for its own sake, which is to say that the economy should be designed to generate outcomes that are as equal as practically possible.”

The distinction, according to Bruenig: “For the egalitarian leftists, the main goal is to shrink the divide between the top and the bottom. For the meritocratic liberal, the main goal is to ensure the top spots in the economy are doled out more fairly.”

Full article: http://fusion.net/story/278295/real-reason-bernie-hillary-supporters-cant-get-along/

Definitely check out the whole thing if you have a moment.

[awake]

1. Bernie wants a Gov. of, by and for the people, while Hillary wants a Gov. of, by and for the 1%

[bigwillq]

2. I get along with supporters just fine; It's Hillary I can't stand.

Supporters can vote for a cheese sandwich for all I care; it's their vote.

[Third Doctor]

13. That's my take on it.

[Bonhomme Richard]

3. They talk about meritocracy as if it actually exist. n/t

[SusanCalvin]

5. Exactly. nt

[Hydra]

10. That's what I was going to say

It's naked nepotism/cronyism. Making it "fair&quot slanted) for the 1% and no one else.

[PowerToThePeople]

12. silverspoon-ocracy.

eom

[Skwmom]

4. That article isn't even close. n/t

[RiverLover]

7. +1 /nt

[Chasstev365]

6. Wrong!

1. Hillary acts like she is entitled to the presidency
2. The DNC rigged the game to favor Hillary.
3. Hillary is a strong woman, yet plays the victim card.
4. David Brock is a slime ball, pulling Rovian/Nixonian BS on Bernie
5. Everything Bernie Sanders avocates were mainstream values of the Democratic Party until Bill Clinton came along.
6. America fundamentally does NOT want another Bush or Clinton.

[RiverLover]

8. #5!!!

All are spot on, but #5 is KEY.

Thanks Chasstev365!

[Cheese Sandwich]

9. Meritocracy is a myth used to justify exploitation and oppression.

[Hydra]

11. The "Elite" "Job Creators" love their euphemisms

Usually meaning the exact opposite.

[Nyan]

14. I don't know how "meritocratic" it is though, for a person to be raking in

hundreds of millions of dollars as a result of influence-peddling. Because as far as I understand it, that's not a hard work paying off, but the prospect of presidency attracting cash.