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Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:45 AM Mar 2016

Clinton Campaign: We Misunderstood the Electorate


In a statement issued early Wednesday, Sanders said:

“I am grateful to the people of Michigan for defying the pundits and pollsters and giving us their support. This is a critically important night. We came from 30 points down in Michigan and we’re seeing the same kind of come-from-behind momentum all across America.

“Not only is Michigan the gateway to the rest of the industrial Midwest, the results there show that we are a national campaign. We already have won in the Midwest, New England and the Great Plains and as more people get to know more about who we are and what our views are we’re going to do very well.”

Sanders, who hasn’t done well with minority voters in Southern primaries, refused to abandon the state where Clinton had been expected to maintain her so-called “firewall” of support among African-American voters.

The Democratic socialist has hit Clinton hard on her support for trade deals, which hurt her in the Rust Belt where agreements like North American Free Trade Agreement have cost jobs, as well for a a false representation of Sanders' position on the 2009 auto industry bailout.

A Clinton campaign aide told CNN the former secretary of state didn’t underestimate Sanders, but misunderstood the electorate. After an impressive win in Mississippi Tuesday, the Clinton campaign is emphasizing that she carried the night in delegates. She picked up 28 in Mississippi, compared with 1 for Sanders. In Michigan, 148 Democratic delegates are it stake, and they could be evenly split.
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http://patch.com/michigan/royaloak/2016-michigan-primary-election-results-polls-open-until-8-tuesday-night
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Clinton Campaign: We Misunderstood the Electorate (Original Post) Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 OP
“I am grateful to the people of Michigan for defying the pundits and pollsters and giving us their s Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #1
That part was the Sanders statement. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #2
Oops headline/text mishap in my brain (I'm still jumping for joy!) Thanks. Makes sense now. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #8
We won Michigan! Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #10
Sanders said that, not Hillary. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #3
that's actually Bernie's statement, not Hillary's DLnyc Mar 2016 #5
I understand your confusion angstlessk Mar 2016 #7
Which raises this question? angstlessk Mar 2016 #9
Rich people misunderestimating us again..... Yuugal Mar 2016 #4
misunderstood the electorate? Uh, yeah! When you are uber rich and out of touch liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #6
Mic Drop! Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #24
It's the theology, stupid. The electorate doesn't believe in evolution, but it believes in miracles. merrily Mar 2016 #11
"I voted against the auto bailout too." Armstead Mar 2016 #28
"Thou shalt not bear false witness." One of the Big Ten. merrily Mar 2016 #29
No, Hillary. The electorate decided twenty years ago that we don't like you. Barack_America Mar 2016 #12
Reminds me of Greenspan who was not wrong, it was only the model he followed that was flawed ... slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #13
The entire DEMOCRATIC PARTY ibegurpard Mar 2016 #14
Ain't that the truth! If the Hillary camp spent more time in the real world and less Lorien Mar 2016 #18
they understand the electorate--they think it thinks it's too good for its perfect candidates MisterP Mar 2016 #37
Better headline "Clinton Mistakes The Rest of the Country for Mississippi" Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #15
OMG. pacalo Mar 2016 #20
LOL!! laundry_queen Mar 2016 #21
hehehehe.. dana_b Mar 2016 #33
Yep. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #35
Meanwhile, Bernie hasn't changed his message much in forever. Literally. silvershadow Mar 2016 #16
Maybe Clinton misunderstood the electorate, but the electorate understood her just fine. agracie Mar 2016 #17
So true. nt Lorien Mar 2016 #19
Uh yah Hillary, you sure did misunderstand. nt Raine Mar 2016 #22
It's not that she misunderstood them. It's that they understood her. merrily Mar 2016 #30
Actions vs Words billhicks76 Mar 2016 #23
Yay, Bernie! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #25
Congrats Demsrule86 Mar 2016 #36
She has been running for President for 16 years and she says she misunderstood libtodeath Mar 2016 #26
What? People don't like being PANDERED to, or LIED to? How soon until Flint is kicked to the curb? TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #27
What would she have done differently if she *had* understood the electorate? cyberswede Mar 2016 #31
Misunderstood? More like blew a lead hard enough to make Tony Romo wince. nt VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #32
I guess 200 financial advisors wasn't enough? n/t winter is coming Mar 2016 #34
I hope her worshippers are starting to get how much trouble we'll be in if she gets nominated Doctor_J Mar 2016 #38
Whoda Thunk? Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #39

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
1. “I am grateful to the people of Michigan for defying the pundits and pollsters and giving us their s
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:49 AM
Mar 2016

support."

WHAT in the world does this even mean? She had an 18 point lead!!! Am I missing something?

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
6. misunderstood the electorate? Uh, yeah! When you are uber rich and out of touch
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:53 AM
Mar 2016

with average people you tend to misunderstand them.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
11. It's the theology, stupid. The electorate doesn't believe in evolution, but it believes in miracles.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:58 AM
Mar 2016

So, will Hillary be evolving again tomorrow? Medicare for all is doable, after all, but only she can git er done? Free college is a great idea, but Bernie can't work with the vast right wing conspiracy as well as she can? $30 an hour minimum wage?

I await breathlessly.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
12. No, Hillary. The electorate decided twenty years ago that we don't like you.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:59 AM
Mar 2016

Sorry, but it is what it is in the industrial Northern states decimated by NAFTA.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
13. Reminds me of Greenspan who was not wrong, it was only the model he followed that was flawed ...
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:00 AM
Mar 2016

Alan Greenspan 'I realized the model I followed was flawed' ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=663752

The middle class is disappearing, that is not a hard concept to grasp.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
14. The entire DEMOCRATIC PARTY
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:02 AM
Mar 2016

Has misunderstood the electorate.
The enormous dropoffs in midterm elections in 2010 and 2014 and the significant dropoff in 2012 should tell us that something isn't working!

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
18. Ain't that the truth! If the Hillary camp spent more time in the real world and less
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:52 AM
Mar 2016

courting billionaires at swanky dinner fundraisers they might be aware of who the electorate is!

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
37. they understand the electorate--they think it thinks it's too good for its perfect candidates
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:16 PM
Mar 2016

so the Republican wins are all the fault of the commoners, meaning they have to be locked out of the process even harder

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
16. Meanwhile, Bernie hasn't changed his message much in forever. Literally.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:11 AM
Mar 2016

Meaning, he isn't a weathervane, but he does know which way the wind is blowing.

Demsrule86

(68,469 posts)
36. Congrats
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 09:11 AM
Mar 2016

while I still do not believe Bernie can win a general...and I am still (as an auto wife) bitter about the vote in 2009 (final auto bill), I will support Bernie should he be the candidate in November and work tirelessly to help him get elected. In any case congrats on Michigan.

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
26. She has been running for President for 16 years and she says she misunderstood
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:12 AM
Mar 2016

the electorate?

What does that say about her?

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
31. What would she have done differently if she *had* understood the electorate?
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:47 AM
Mar 2016

Pandered to them differently? Misrepresented her opponent differently?

Sanders talks about his vision the same way everywhere, and has been consistent for decades. Maybe *that* is what the electorate likes.

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