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RandySF

(58,786 posts)
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 10:47 AM Mar 2016

Seriously, my hat off to the Sanders campaign.

I didn't see it coming though I should have, I think the biggest problem, in hindsight, was polling a primary when there hadn't been a contested Democratic primary there since 1992. Also in hindsight, it should have been too surprising as Jesse jackson won the Michigan caucus in 1988.

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Seriously, my hat off to the Sanders campaign. (Original Post) RandySF Mar 2016 OP
Thanks for a classy thread. Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 #1
Polling methodology seems to be off in general EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #2
I have a hunch about what happened RandySF Mar 2016 #4
That's a possibility EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #6
It's being reported that's not reflected in the Republican numbers Arazi Mar 2016 #7
The only actual actual voter story I came across in MI among hundreds was this Land Shark Mar 2016 #9
"That god damn firewall got a crack in it" PassingFair Mar 2016 #3
Thanks but Clinton's pattern is closer to Jackson's. Armstead Mar 2016 #5
Totally agree. We should just take it on the chin ... learn ... correct ... and move forward. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #8
Thank you for the hat's off! (nt) pat_k Mar 2016 #10

EmperorHasNoClothes

(4,797 posts)
2. Polling methodology seems to be off in general
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 10:50 AM
Mar 2016

They still haven't compensated for the large number of people who have cut the cord.

RandySF

(58,786 posts)
4. I have a hunch about what happened
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 10:52 AM
Mar 2016

I used to crossover in Michigan primaries all the tie to make mischief for Republicans and wonder how man Dems saw the polls and decided to put Trump over the top assuming Hillary was cruising.

EmperorHasNoClothes

(4,797 posts)
6. That's a possibility
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:01 AM
Mar 2016

However polls have been off in many states this year by 10 percent or more, including in states where the polls were much tighter than they were in Michigan.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
7. It's being reported that's not reflected in the Republican numbers
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:03 AM
Mar 2016

these really were Dems and Indies who voted for Bernie

Land Shark

(6,346 posts)
9. The only actual actual voter story I came across in MI among hundreds was this
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:58 AM
Mar 2016

A young progressive NOT on social media who kind of liked Sanders but hadn't heard terribly much about him (not watching political shows much) crossed over to the Republican side to vote for Cruz in order to stop Trump, who he had heard lots about.

Low info voter, I know...

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
3. "That god damn firewall got a crack in it"
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 10:52 AM
Mar 2016

She had to split the black vote. Bernie's simple truths got through.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
5. Thanks but Clinton's pattern is closer to Jackson's.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 10:55 AM
Mar 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Jackson_presidential_campaign,_1988

I preferred Jackson in 1998, but your attempt to marginalize Sanders prospects by comparison are not quire accurate.

Jackson won 11 contests: seven primaries (Alabama, the District of Columbia, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Puerto Rico and Virginia) and four caucuses (Delaware, Michigan, South Carolina and Vermont)

If you'll notice the states, the comparison might be more apt with the pattern of Clinton.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
8. Totally agree. We should just take it on the chin ... learn ... correct ... and move forward.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:05 AM
Mar 2016

Please, NO excuses, no conspiracy theories, no accusations of fraud, no attacks, no smears, no insulting voters, no insulting states or regions, no paternalistic criticism of POC, no blaming of the media... as supporter of Hillary Clinton, we are better than that and should always try to set a good example with regard to the proper way to handle a loss.

I say "loss", but of course, we all know it was a "virtual tie". (Oh, I kid!)

I'm very pleased that for the night, Hillary received the most DELEGATES and pulls even FURTHER AHEAD of Bernie!

Go, Hillary! We love you!


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