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Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:01 PM Mar 2016

Bernie Sanders Wins Big With Michigan Muslims — And Political Pundits Can’t Quite Believe It

Political commentators and media outlets were quick to pounce on a “fascinating” statistic from Bernie Sanders’ victory in the Michigan primary on Tuesday night: Democrats in Dearborn, a city whose population is 40 percent Arab, voted overwhelmingly for Sanders over rival Hillary Clinton (59 percent to 39 percent). The subtext of pointing out this particular statistic is clear. How, the media wondered, could a predominantly Muslim group support a Jewish candidate?

As the results rolled in, television pundits like Lawrence O’Donnell and Chuck Todd marveled on MSNBC that Sanders was doing so well in Dearborn “despite” the large Arab-American population there. WNYC radio host Brian Lehrer tweeted that Sanders’ dominance in Dearborn was “the stat of the night,” later adding “It’s official: Arab city feels the Jewish Bern.” Meanwhile, The Week dubbed it “just one more strange data point in an election overflowing with them.”

The assumption implicit in such commentary, of course, is that Muslims are biased against Jews — and that when they do cast a vote for Jewish candidates, it’s because they’ve somehow managed to overcome their own inherent anti-Semitism. But this fascination with Dearborn’s support of Sanders actually demonstrates the media industry’s own all-too-prevalent prejudice — and reveals how much reporting on American Muslims is still rooted in an unsophisticated naiveté about what motivates them.

“It’s no surprise that the mainstream media ... is guilty of promoting two-dimensional caricatures of Muslims and Arabs,” said Hend Amry, a Libyan-American writer who frequently comments on social issues related to Muslims. “I tweeted that the media is shocked that Dearborn residents didn't announce an ‘intifada’ against Jewish Bernie Sanders to point out this very stereotype.”

Full article: http://www.ibtimes.com/bernie-sanders-wins-big-michigan-muslims-political-pundits-cant-quite-believe-it-2333030
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Bernie Sanders Wins Big With Michigan Muslims — And Political Pundits Can’t Quite Believe It (Original Post) Mufaddal Mar 2016 OP
Idiot pundits in their little bubble BuelahWitch Mar 2016 #1
We tried to warn all primary candidates, GOP & Dem: Mufaddal Mar 2016 #23
Hend Amry is a great follow on Twitter Kall Mar 2016 #2
Yep. K&R Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #3
Open primary Loki Mar 2016 #4
There are not a whole lot of repukes in Dearborn. KamaAina Mar 2016 #8
Because political pundits and parties use stereotypes mmonk Mar 2016 #5
maybe they're tired of being demonized... tk2kewl Mar 2016 #6
I mean, there's also this Mufaddal Mar 2016 #14
no doubt tk2kewl Mar 2016 #18
I find their attitudes offensive. Punkingal Mar 2016 #7
of course; Bernie is less pro-Israel than both mainstream Jewish Americans ericson00 Mar 2016 #9
Morons were banking on anti-semitism to carry the day for Hillary AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #10
My husband says its because they won't vote for a woman marlakay Mar 2016 #11
I called this last night Mufaddal Mar 2016 #13
+1 mmonk Mar 2016 #16
Glad to hear that, thanks. Nt marlakay Mar 2016 #24
I really don't think it's because she's a woman. kas125 Mar 2016 #19
yep doesn't fit the going narrative does it? K&R azurnoir Mar 2016 #12
Waiting for all of the articles: "Why can't Hillary make inroads in the Muslim & Arab communities?" Mufaddal Mar 2016 #20
yep albeit when when you compare histories with the respective communities azurnoir Mar 2016 #21
"marvelous" Mufaddal Mar 2016 #22
American Arabs and Muslims are well aware of Hillary's disturbing comportment toward Middle East alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #15
Nah, CAIR polling initially suggested that while Muslims were more likely to vote for Hillary Mufaddal Mar 2016 #17

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
1. Idiot pundits in their little bubble
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:06 PM
Mar 2016

Don't understand that the Bern transcends old prejudices.

"But we're rich! Our bosses are even richer!" they say. "We know all!"

Hope you have some money saved, boys, your obsolescence is near.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
8. There are not a whole lot of repukes in Dearborn.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:28 PM
Mar 2016

Thanks for playing, though, and I'm sure you'll enjoy this copy of our home game.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
18. no doubt
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:53 PM
Mar 2016

plenty to dislike about Hillary's foreign policy in ME and elsewhere

and to her massive negatives, Bernie's compassion for people of every color and creed...

seems like Dearborn has some smart and informed folks

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
9. of course; Bernie is less pro-Israel than both mainstream Jewish Americans
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:30 PM
Mar 2016

and mainstream non-Jewish Americans alike; of course they voted for him.

marlakay

(11,428 posts)
11. My husband says its because they won't vote for a woman
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:39 PM
Mar 2016

could there be any truth to that?

Since women are treated beyond poorly and with no respect in Muslim countries he might have a point. Most Muslims I meet here in America don't act like that though....

Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
13. I called this last night
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:48 PM
Mar 2016

I said there is going to be some hot take out there saying Bernie just won some sexist Arab votes.

No, there is no truth to it. The same people with that mentality would never vote for a liberal period, let alone a Jew.

kas125

(2,472 posts)
19. I really don't think it's because she's a woman.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:55 PM
Mar 2016

My favorite uncle was a Muslim whose father had been an ambassador to the US long before I was born. He was the kindest, smartest man I ever knew. He spent his spare time and then his retirement helping other Muslims who were new to this country get settled and become part of their communities. He had no problem with women. I really doubt that the fact that Hillary is a woman is the reason they didn't vote for her.

Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
20. Waiting for all of the articles: "Why can't Hillary make inroads in the Muslim & Arab communities?"
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:56 PM
Mar 2016

With all of the accompanying content heavily implying it's because she's a bigot.

(Note: I am not saying she is, I'm saying this is how Bernie was covered when it came to black voters)

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
21. yep albeit when when you compare histories with the respective communities
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:00 PM
Mar 2016

on a global level there are some differences, I mean Hillary made some marvelous deals for Arabs in the ME when she was SoS didn't she?

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
15. American Arabs and Muslims are well aware of Hillary's disturbing comportment toward Middle East
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:50 PM
Mar 2016

Dearborn is not merely Muslim -- those Muslims are overwhelmingly ethnic Arab.

Hillary's behavior towards ethnic Arabs has not escaped their attention.

But agreed, in any case, that the assumption that they should be "naturally" against Sanders is bone stupid. That said, the vote can just as easily be interpreted as anti-Hillary. Her record on the Middle East is not good, to put it mildly.

Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
17. Nah, CAIR polling initially suggested that while Muslims were more likely to vote for Hillary
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:52 PM
Mar 2016

they favored Bernie more. We had a lot of people in our faith community working very hard on Bernie's behalf, and we saw the results of that last night.

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