2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTruthdigger of the Week: Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Who Risked Her Career to Endorse Bernie Sanders
It was remarkable to watch Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, an Iraq War veteran, defy her bosses, resign her post as vice chair of the Democratic National Committee and endorse Sen. Bernie Sanders for president.
She did so Feb. 28 on the grounds that Sanders would make a more responsible and effective commander in chief than Hillary Clinton, his rival for the Democratic nomination and the partys clear favorite.
The nation must have a president who has foresight, who exercises good judgment, Gabbard told NBC host Chuck Todd on Sundays edition of Meet the Press.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/truthdigger_of_the_week_rep_tulsi_gabbard_who_risked_her_20160306
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Then, again, she is a war veteran, a Democrat, an unafraid to speak truth to power.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)has to stand for what they believe in no matter the repercussions.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)After you've seen the things I'm sure she saw during 2 tours in Iraq, the DNC and Hillary Clinton don't look that scary. I have spent a good bit of time in Hawaii and the people there are very protective of their own.
randome
(34,845 posts)And who never misses an opportunity to whine about President Obama.
And who took a job that mandated she remain neutral then complained that the DNC wasn't supporting Sanders.
I don't think she's the poster girl you're looking for.
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UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)and in most cases the way the DNC has funneled funds to Hillary's campaign they seem pretty neutral also......
randome
(34,845 posts)And it probably should not. But just because Gabbard decided to change jobs does not address that, while her courting of religious bigotry should make everyone go, "Okay. Fine. Bye."
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UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)it's true it's true......say the Third Way New democrat which helped drag the party to the right....
SCOTT SIMON: I mean, did you ever back in the 60s, between when I believe you were a Goldwater girl
HILLARY CLINTON: Thats right.
SCOTT SIMON: and whenever you became politically
HILLARY CLINTON: Thats right. And I feel like my political beliefs are rooted in the conservatism that I was raised with. I dont recognize this new brand of Republicanism that is afoot now, which I consider to be very reactionary, not conservative in many respects. I am very proud that I was a Goldwater girl.
NPR Interview with Clinton Emerges: My Roots Are Conservative, Im Proud I Was a Goldwater Girl
http://usuncut.com/politics/npr-interview-hillary-clinton-was-proud-of-her-conservatism/
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Bernie because her shabby behavior had already damaged her career and she was looking for another path around the mess she made. People admiring her at the moment might want to back off the public comments a bit in case they turn out to be embarrassing in future. Btw, there is a pretty good chance she will end up on the right with her family. It's unlikely that Bernie will be interested in helping her satisfy her soaring ambitions, the DNC surely isn't, and that no doubt will go for most of her colleagues in Congress also.
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)Point to any evidence that the DNC is "funnelling funds" to Clinton's campaign.
This should be easy, because they'll be reported to FEC.
Right?
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)The Alaska Democratic Party has collected more than $40,000 from a political committee tied to the presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton that raises money from billionaire donors, complicating the partys message as it calls for campaign finance reform.
The party, in a monthly report filed Friday with the Federal Election Commission, said it raised $43,500 from the Hillary Victory Fund, with $10,000 donations from billionaires, including hedge fund manager S. Donald Sussman and Hyatt hotel heir J.B. Pritzker.
In the same report, the Alaska Democratic Party said it transferred an equal amount of money, $43,500, [back] to the Democratic National Committee -- a move that, while legal, helps to effectively obliterate federal limits on donations to the national committee, according to one campaign finance expert.
It just becomes a way to give more to the DNC to support the Clinton campaign, said Paul S. Ryan, deputy executive director of the Campaign Legal Center, which advocates for campaign finance reform. Its effectively Hillary Clintons team soliciting Hillary Clintons supporters for much bigger checks than they can give to the campaign -- knowing that every penny could be spent on the Clinton campaign.
(bolding mine)
This isnt just happening with the Alaska Democratic Party, either. The Bangor Daily News reports
Clinton donors use Maine Democrats to skirt campaign cash limits
A Cuban-born sugar tycoon. A California-based registered foreign agent for the government of Sri Lanka. A Chicago billionaire.
All of them are recent large donors to the Maine Democratic Party via a complex fundraising scheme called the Hillary Victory Fund. The fund exploits recent court decisions and weakened campaign finance laws to maximize political contributions and funnel them to the Democratic National Committee.
[...]
But all the contributions havent stayed in Maine, or any of the other state Democratic parties to which Hillary Victory Fund donations have been funneled. Federal Election Commission reports show that the two October and November transfers totaling $39,000 from the Hillary Victory Fund to the Maine Democratic Party each sat for less than 48 hours with the party before the exact same amounts were transferred to the Democratic National Committee, or DNC.
[...]
While individual contributions to the state and national parties are capped, transfers between state and national committees are unlimited. That means that, effectively, donors can skirt contribution limits to the DNC or state parties by giving through joint fundraising committees like the Hillary Victory Fund.
The Huffington Post reports that (bolding mine)
A joint fundraising committee linking Hillary Clinton to the national Democratic Party and 33 state parties is routing money through those state parties and back into the coffers of the Democratic National Committee. So far, 22 of the state parties linked to the Hillary Victory Fund have received $938,500 from the fund and sent the same amount back to the DNC, according to available campaign finance records. The Clinton campaign claims to have raised an additional $18 million for the party committees in the final three months of 2015, although records will not be disclosed until Jan. 31.
The movement of money from a joint fundraising committee through state parties and to the national party committee has been criticized by campaign finance reformers as a way to get around campaign contribution limits.
I cant wait for the reports to come out on January 31, so we can see if additional monies raised by Clintons campaign have been sent to the individual state parties only to be returned to the DNC where
the money can easily be sent to the state parties most advantageous to the candidate raising the money -- in a swing state, for example. Or, as is happening with the Hillary Victory Fund, that money can be sent to the DNC, which redistributes it as they see fit.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/9/1467700/-This-May-Be-The-Reason-Bernie-s-Not-Fundraising-for-the-State-Democratic-Parties
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)...and even if it was here, DNC would be limited to a single $5,000 contribution per FEC rules.
Second, the actual assertion is that the DNC is receiving money with the purpose of "helping" Clinton. Feel free to point out what "help" has been provided by DNC that's unique to Clinton, for which these funds were used.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)OK perhaps you need to reread how the funds circulate into the Hillary Victory fund....
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)Free thinking isn't allowed??
Bernie welcomes her endorsement over Kissingers.. any day
randome
(34,845 posts)All I'm saying is that this isn't some 'come to Jesus' moment that can be laid at someone else's feet. She decided to support Sanders and to quit her job so good for her. It's not a reflection on the DNC, as fraught with problems as it may be for other reasons.
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disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)She did what she saw as the right thing to do.. endorse someone who isn't going to make war/ international decisions according to political calculations.. some may try to down play that decision and attack her integrity, but her military credentials speak for themselves and show poorly on those who undermine the importance/ relevance of her endorsement..
randome
(34,845 posts)All I'm saying is that it's not so 'remarkable' as TruthDigger wants to portray it as. And she's something of a loose cannon insofar as flirting with religious bigotry so...no big deal. Like I said.
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panader0
(25,816 posts)brooklynite
(94,502 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)social pressure how those who have chosen to go against the grain are treated. Let's just use the Dixie Chicks as an example of what can happen when you go against the tide......
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)...or any ogher Sanders endorser actually experienced?