2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton’s statement on her comments about the Reagans' record on HIV and AIDS:
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/708403247795539968
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)The folks who gave her pass are now going to spin this...how?
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)and all this other stuff we are complaining about from the 80's are Larry Kramer rumors!
enigmatic
(15,021 posts)We had a few who were defending the Reagans in their reaction to the AIDS epidemic just in multiple threads to prop up Hillary's vile, revisionist history. Now that she admits she "misspoke", what will they do now? Pivot and attack Sanders again?
JackBeck
(12,359 posts)Besides, I expect more from someone who is considered a preeminent voice in the Democratic Party.
enigmatic
(15,021 posts)They are spitting on every person, as well as their families who had to go through this in the 80s.
All for propping up their candidate.
berningman
(144 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)She didn't "misspoke". Even that's a lie.
Anyone alive at that time who paid ANY attention to the issue knew precisely how cruel and cynical the Reagans were on HIV/AIDS. So, either Hillary wasn't paying attention (which is my bet since it didn't effect her) or she hasn't got a good enough memory to be president of the United States.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Not even close. This was horrifically insulting and it requires active correction and amends to be made. She showed how little she really cares about LGBT issues, how little attention she paid back then. Despicable.
1987
41,027 persons are dead and
71,176 persons diagnosed with AIDS in the US.
After years of negligent silence, President Ronald Reagan finally uses the word "AIDS" in public. He sided with his Education Secretary William Bennett and other conservatives who said the Government should not provide sex education information. (They are still saying it!)
On April 2, 1987, Reagan said: "How that information is used must be up to schools and parents, not government. But let's be honest with ourselves, AIDS information can not be what some call 'value neutral.' After all, when it comes to preventing AIDS, don't medicine and morality teach the same lessons."
http://www.actupny.org/reports/reagan.html
It was genocide.
Silence = Death
Knowledge = Life
JackBeck
(12,359 posts)Erased. Gone.
Clinton's insulting adulation of the Reagan's history when dealing with HIV/AIDS will not soon be forgotten by advocates and activists. This was a major slip-up today.
Puglover
(16,380 posts)¨ ¨ These people make me sick to my stomach.
JackBeck
(12,359 posts)Absolutely no shame.
enigmatic
(15,021 posts)Think about that for a second.
One of them is calling Larry Kramer a liar and a couple more Hillary supporters who have said for years are LGBT are saying her words are "no big deal" and "much to do about nothing" and calling it drama.
Drama.
It's unbelievable.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Nancy's death of course brings all of that up already. For Hillary to say this is heartbreaking. It just means she never paid a bit of attention, before or sense. It's like applauding George Wallace for starting a Civil Rights conversation.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)Someone needs to set her down and have a long talk with her about her mouth! I agree with WillyT's OP the other night...she is her own worst enemy. I can only imagine her campaign got bombarded and now she is walking it back, but does this ever make her look bad. Did she speak without thinking it through? Did she not know they did nothing for AIDS? How smart is this woman, actually?
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)Most of her "resume" is predicated on being married to Bill. Would she have been elected Senator of New York as Hillary Smith? or made Secretary of State? I highly doubt it.
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)Just dismissive and condescending.
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malthaussen
(17,193 posts)Woman seems to be misspeaking a lot lately.
-- Mal
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)administration.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Sivart
(325 posts)What is the difference between misspeaking and lying?
What is the difference between misspeaking and just being wrong?
What is the difference between misspeaking and remembering something incorrectly?
She has not explained what exactly happened with her original statement.
When I think if misspeaking, I think of someone getting tongue tied, and the words coming out wrong.
I don't think that is what she is claiming happened, here.
So, she has tried to clarify her previous terrible statement, but just like always, she just cant give the straight truth......she always has to reword things so that she is not too tied to any specific statement.
Did you lie? No, I misspoke. Were you wrong? No, I misspoke. Is your memory bad? No, I just mispoke.
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Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)on her first statement.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Was she not alive during the Reagan years? Was she not aware of his admin's callous reproach to AIDS?
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Look at the first response below her tweet. Clueless.
Tammy Bruce @HeyTammyBruce 40m40 minutes ago
@HillaryClinton You did not misspeak. But I do realize it's politically incorrect to be honest about the Reagans.